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Gearbox fitting advice...
« on: 24 March 2010, 21:10:31 »

I have at last got the replacement clutch and fitted it...  I have spent too long today, trying to get the gearbox back on...

I have checked to make sure the gearbox is in straight alignment.  It is sitting on 2 trolley jacks, to give reasonable movement on different angles...  Everytime I feel everything is in the right position, try to make the connection, I find the diaphram spring and have the gearbox pushed away...

On 2 occasions, I managed to pull the box off one of the jacks...  Fortunately everything appears fine and no evident damage...

I would really appreciate advice on fitting it...
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Re: Gearbox fitting advice...
« Reply #1 on: 24 March 2010, 21:22:43 »

Did you centre the driven plate?
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Re: Gearbox fitting advice...
« Reply #2 on: 24 March 2010, 21:23:25 »

Hi, never done it on a mig (have proper box on mine), but every other car I've changed clutch on it is always hard to get the clutch plate etc to line up with the input shaft, not made easier by the access and angle you are looking at it from.
All I can suggest if you cant get a spare input shaft to line it up is to tighten the cover bolts just enough so the clutch plate can just be moved and then fit the box. Then remove the box again and torque the cover plate correctly and try fitting the box again.
Hope this helps,

Al
« Last Edit: 24 March 2010, 21:24:21 by albrown74 »
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Re: Gearbox fitting advice...
« Reply #3 on: 24 March 2010, 21:32:22 »

its usually possible to judge the clutch centralisation by eye.

you could try putting it in gear and rotating the output shaft slightly to get the rotational alignment proper.

are you sure that you've got the friction plate in the right way round ?
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Re: Gearbox fitting advice...
« Reply #4 on: 24 March 2010, 21:46:35 »

I am fairly confident that the clutch plate is central and I have the gearbox in gear, and I can spin it..  As of yet, I haven't even managed to get the spigot in the clutch plate hole even slightly out of position...  :-/

I'll try again tomorrow and fairly confident that I will get it in line, but, I won't be doing another anytime soon... leaves me to darn sore...  lol...
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Re: Gearbox fitting advice...
« Reply #5 on: 24 March 2010, 21:53:06 »

In the "old days" when I drove cars with clutches .. I always used a bit of broom handle to get the alignement right ... then SWTSMBO bought me some fancy thing with varying size bosses and spacers that was supposed to give 100% accuracy .... still found a bit of broom handle worked better !!!
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Re: Gearbox fitting advice...
« Reply #6 on: 24 March 2010, 21:53:11 »

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I won't be doing another anytime soon... leaves me to darn sore...  lol...

Agreed. Did it twice on my last Omega.

Once when I had the engine out and then again a few years later when the flex pipe to the slave cylinder failed.
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Re: Gearbox fitting advice...
« Reply #7 on: 24 March 2010, 22:00:23 »

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In the "old days" when I drove cars with clutches .. I always used a bit of broom handle to get the alignement right ... then SWTSMBO bought me some fancy thing with varying size bosses and spacers that was supposed to give 100% accuracy .... still found a bit of broom handle worked better !!!


I found one of the starter bolts, with insulating tape bound around the end packing out to that 10.5mm diameter for the spigot bearing, so it was nice and snug...  A 15mm Socket sat nicely on the on the bolt, again sitting on some insulating tape to keep things snug and straight...
When I put the relevent star socket on the bolt, I could see quite easily as to how central it was and make suitable adjustments...
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Re: Gearbox fitting advice...
« Reply #8 on: 24 March 2010, 22:07:14 »

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In the "old days" when I drove cars with clutches .. I always used a bit of broom handle to get the alignement right ... then SWTSMBO bought me some fancy thing with varying size bosses and spacers that was supposed to give 100% accuracy .... still found a bit of broom handle worked better !!!


I found one of the starter bolts, with insulating tape bound around the end packing out to that 10.5mm diameter for the spigot bearing, so it was nice and snug...  A 15mm Socket sat nicely on the on the bolt, again sitting on some insulating tape to keep things snug and straight...
When I put the relevent star socket on the bolt, I could see quite easily as to how central it was and make suitable adjustments...
It looks as though you have got the plate centred properly.

Next thing I would do is check that the engine is upright or leaning slightly back. If it is leaning forward you may not be able to lift the tail of the gearbox high enough to line up and engage with the clutch splines & spigot bearing.

How are you supporting the engine while the gearbox is off?
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Re: Gearbox fitting advice...
« Reply #9 on: 24 March 2010, 22:25:26 »

Hi
Before assembling the clutch did you check to make sure that the driven plate fits on the gearbox splines?
Alan
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