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[Lesopc]

This is the other project idea. For this one i am thinking of Ronal R39 Black 17" rims. Yay or nay???

[Lesopc]

This is the other project idea. For this one i am thinking of Ronal R39 Black 17" rims. Yay or nay???

Want to stick to Ronals as per the original if possible.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I would think a V8 build is a far better idea than any retrospective 'Lotus' that just spells old 1980s technology

[Lesopc]

I would think a V8 build is a far better idea than any retrospective 'Lotus' that just spells old 1980s technology

Which is still rocking the automotive world 20 years on though?

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I would think a V8 build is a far better idea than any retrospective 'Lotus' that just spells old 1980s technology

Which is still rocking the automotive world 20 years on though?

Are they?  The name Lotus does not appear in the F1 Teams who are in the points.  Lotus - Cosworth have zero points  

I am afraid, to me, their glory days have gone

[pedroMV6]

I would think a V8 build is a far better idea than any retrospective 'Lotus' that just spells old 1980s technology

Which is still rocking the automotive world 20 years on though?

Are they?  The name Lotus does not appear in the F1 Teams who are in the points.  Lotus - Cosworth have zero points  

I am afraid, to me, their glory days have gone

Hang on - Lotus Racing is a completely different kettle of fish to Lotus Cars or Lotus Engineering - they are all separate companies which do not run alongside each other.
Lotus Racing is really a mask for Proton (predominant owners of Group Lotus), having the race cars built in Hingham, Norfolk in the old TOMS (TOyota Motor Sport) works which is about twelve miles from Hethel, where Lotus Cars and Lotus Engineering are based.
Lotus Racing might even migrate to Malaysia in a year or two.
As to the comment about Lotus having zero points, that's totally irrelevant.
In years to come, some of today's F1 technology will filter through to road cars, but not for a while yet.
The plan for Lotus Racing is a long term plan, there's almost no way an F1 newcomer (and to be fair, Lotus Racing is a new team, the old team was called Team Lotus and ended some ten years ago, in which time F1 technology has moved on by lightyears, never mind miles!), can enter F1 and start winning points. You need to gain ground and build on every race, which is exactly what they are achieving - along with the other newcomers.

Lotus Cars builds road cars and modified road cars for racing.
Lotus Engineering works with many other manufacturers (not just cars).
Lotus Design also work with other manufacturers.

Lotus might only be a small company, yet their knowledge is probably wider than that of GM in many different areas, hence why GM bought a majority share in the firm in the 80's - then sold most of their stake in the 90's to Bugatti cos they couldn't afford to keep it going. Same with Bugatti so Proton bought Lotus and are actually making it pay.
OK, simplistic potted recent history lesson over!


As said, the LC used 80's technology, but - and rightly so - it is still an iconic car and again, as said, still rocks 20 years on.


Not meaning to have a pop at anyone, but there's a helluva lot more to this that meets the eye!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I would think a V8 build is a far better idea than any retrospective 'Lotus' that just spells old 1980s technology

Which is still rocking the automotive world 20 years on though?

Are they?  The name Lotus does not appear in the F1 Teams who are in the points.  Lotus - Cosworth have zero points  

I am afraid, to me, their glory days have gone

Hang on - Lotus Racing is a completely different kettle of fish to Lotus Cars or Lotus Engineering - they are all separate companies which do not run alongside each other.
Lotus Racing is really a mask for Proton (predominant owners of Group Lotus), having the race cars built in Hingham, Norfolk in the old TOMS (TOyota Motor Sport) works which is about twelve miles from Hethel, where Lotus Cars and Lotus Engineering are based.
Lotus Racing might even migrate to Malaysia in a year or two.
As to the comment about Lotus having zero points, that's totally irrelevant.
In years to come, some of today's F1 technology will filter through to road cars, but not for a while yet.
The plan for Lotus Racing is a long term plan, there's almost no way an F1 newcomer (and to be fair, Lotus Racing is a new team, the old team was called Team Lotus and ended some ten years ago, in which time F1 technology has moved on by lightyears, never mind miles!), can enter F1 and start winning points. You need to gain ground and build on every race, which is exactly what they are achieving - along with the other newcomers.

Lotus Cars builds road cars and modified road cars for racing.
Lotus Engineering works with many other manufacturers (not just cars).
Lotus Design also work with other manufacturers.

Lotus might only be a small company, yet their knowledge is probably wider than that of GM in many different areas, hence why GM bought a majority share in the firm in the 80's - then sold most of their stake in the 90's to Bugatti cos they couldn't afford to keep it going. Same with Bugatti so Proton bought Lotus and are actually making it pay.
OK, simplistic potted recent history lesson over!


As said, the LC used 80's technology, but - and rightly so - it is still an iconic car and again, as said, still rocks 20 years on.


Not meaning to have a pop at anyone, but there's a helluva lot more to this that meets the eye!

Wow!! I touched a nerve there!!

Sorry if I caused offence, but I just do not see modern versions of Lotus in any form that excites me. and I loved the Lotus range of the 1970s and the badged Carltons of the 80s.  Please give me an example of a Lotus that can compete with the high performance cars of today.

[aaronjb]

Lotus Exige? I don't think you can argue it's slow in GT3 form (or any form, for that matter!) - 3.9s to 60 is spritely, to say the least.. Heck, the 'base' Exige gets there in 4.7s.

If you tell me they don't excite you, then I'd ask if you've ever been in one

The closest I've been is a VXR220 putting out some 260bhp and 390lb/ft of torque and it's quite simply staggering - not only in straight line speed but cornering ability. I thought I was going to fall through the door..

[Del Boy]

They're good at the 60 sprint and good around tracks, thats about it as far as I can see. Of course though the Lotus Carlton is brilliant 

[Lesopc]

I would think a V8 build is a far better idea than any retrospective 'Lotus' that just spells old 1980s technology

Which is still rocking the automotive world 20 years on though?

Are they?  The name Lotus does not appear in the F1 Teams who are in the points.  Lotus - Cosworth have zero points  

I am afraid, to me, their glory days have gone

Hang on - Lotus Racing is a completely different kettle of fish to Lotus Cars or Lotus Engineering - they are all separate companies which do not run alongside each other.
Lotus Racing is really a mask for Proton (predominant owners of Group Lotus), having the race cars built in Hingham, Norfolk in the old TOMS (TOyota Motor Sport) works which is about twelve miles from Hethel, where Lotus Cars and Lotus Engineering are based.
Lotus Racing might even migrate to Malaysia in a year or two.
As to the comment about Lotus having zero points, that's totally irrelevant.
In years to come, some of today's F1 technology will filter through to road cars, but not for a while yet.
The plan for Lotus Racing is a long term plan, there's almost no way an F1 newcomer (and to be fair, Lotus Racing is a new team, the old team was called Team Lotus and ended some ten years ago, in which time F1 technology has moved on by lightyears, never mind miles!), can enter F1 and start winning points. You need to gain ground and build on every race, which is exactly what they are achieving - along with the other newcomers.

Lotus Cars builds road cars and modified road cars for racing.
Lotus Engineering works with many other manufacturers (not just cars).
Lotus Design also work with other manufacturers.

Lotus might only be a small company, yet their knowledge is probably wider than that of GM in many different areas, hence why GM bought a majority share in the firm in the 80's - then sold most of their stake in the 90's to Bugatti cos they couldn't afford to keep it going. Same with Bugatti so Proton bought Lotus and are actually making it pay.
OK, simplistic potted recent history lesson over!


As said, the LC used 80's technology, but - and rightly so - it is still an iconic car and again, as said, still rocks 20 years on.


Not meaning to have a pop at anyone, but there's a helluva lot more to this that meets the eye!

Wow!! I touched a nerve there!!

Sorry if I caused offence, but I just do not see modern versions of Lotus in any form that excites me. and I loved the Lotus range of the 1970s and the badged Carltons of the 80s.  Please give me an example of a Lotus that can compete with the high performance cars of today.

YEAH, THE LOTUS CARLTON

[Lesopc]

Firstly please note that these comments are for the wheels of possible V8Star project and another thread is open for the LC project.
Secondly, F1 is not the only form of motor racing and is far surpassed by most series of Touring Cars imho.
Thirdly the Lotus Carlton still chews up and spits out most rivals from the likes of BMW, Mercedes, Audi etc and this as i said is with 20 year old technology which is actually in a lot of ways still relevant today and will be in many more years to come.
Lastly, i only thought that an update of the LC and it's prowess was in order imho.