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[alcutler]

Hi, New to the site - have looked through loads of topics trying to sort out an airbag light that wont go out - If I remove the instrument panel is there a bulb for the light I can remove? I tried everything else and it wont go out ie checking wiring connections from door panels, under the seat etc.
Thanks - any help would be appreciated

[Andy B]

Hi, New to the site - have looked through loads of topics trying to sort out an airbag light that wont go out - If I remove the instrument panel is there a bulb for the light I can remove? I tried everything else and it wont go out ie checking wiring connections from door panels, under the seat etc.
Thanks - any help would be appreciated

Course you can remove the lamp/bulb, but obviously in the event of a sudden stop into another car or wall, you won't have an air bag to help preserve your good looks. You need a code reader of some sort to diagnose what is upsetting the system. It could be something really simple. The SRS system is unique on the Omega in that even if you fix the original fault, if the light comes on for what ever reason, you need a code reader to reset the lamp.

[Kevin Wood]

Agreed. You might even have fixed it but the light will stay on until it's reset.

If you can get it to one of us who has a Tech 2 we can look at the live data and see if any of the circuits look suspect.

No airbag functionality will currently be enabled with a fault present.

Kevin

[alcutler]

Hi, Thanks for the replies and appreciate what you are saying re the safety aspect - I can't believe I was silly enough to drive cars around for 40 + years without airbags fitted. Still I suppose I would have a milli second to regret not having the bag reset and rely on my seat belt saving me.
Got an OBD 2 code reader but it doesn't work on this car!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Would a disabled air bag system also make void your insurance cover in the event of an accident and major face (heaven forbid) injuries?? :-/ :-/

[alcutler]

Probably and no doubt be in contravention of Health and Safety!

[I_want_an_Omega]

Its upto you - but I think it will be foolish to do it.

Unless you want to put a warning label on your pass side dash saying "Airbag Disabled" as it will also be disabled.

Why dont you just get the problem fixed?

[2woody]

three issues here.

you probably want the airbags functional.

remove the bulb & you'll no longer pass MOT

broadcasting it on here means that you must now fix it. In the event of an accident, police can and do use web forums to secure prosecution. Just picture the scene - the judge asks you "so, having established that your passenger died because the airbag wasn't working, you discussed this on the web as early as August 2010, so I put it to you that you knew the airbag wasn't working and elected not to fix it.....". Internet Service Providers have a legal obligation to provide records to police without asking - even pm's

sorry.

[TheBoy]

three issues here.

you probably want the airbags functional.

remove the bulb & you'll no longer pass MOT

broadcasting it on here means that you must now fix it. In the event of an accident, police can and do use web forums to secure prosecution. Just picture the scene - the judge asks you "so, having established that your passenger died because the airbag wasn't working, you discussed this on the web as early as August 2010, so I put it to you that you knew the airbag wasn't working and elected not to fix it.....". Internet Service Providers have a legal obligation to provide records to police without asking - even pm's

sorry.

Is airbag an MOT failure, adviso, or not checked?


I agree, whilst an airbag in the chops will smart a bit, its going to hurt far less than eating a steeringwheel (or glovebox).

[Steve 1564]

Airbag light is ok for the mot - Our V40 has been like that for the last 2 mot's - (allways get's noted as an advisiory) - But the ABS will be a failure, Had a V70 a few years back that i bought to sell on, did all the work but the ABS was intermittant, the "Lad" at my local mot station said it would be fine to take the bulb out, so to buy some time (as it was a pig of a fault) i did just that - It failed & that will be £53 sir !! --- "But... But.. your lad said... "Oh no he shouldn't have told you that... £53 please"... "ok, but he did - what you gonna do ?"... suffice to say I went on to (Eventually)fix the ABS & had it mot'ed at another garage...

I was toying with the Idea of putting a delay circuit in to emulate the ABS lamp, But only for my own use - I could'nt sell a car like that (at least not without pointing out that there was no ABS)

[henryd]

three issues here.

you probably want the airbags functional.

remove the bulb & you'll no longer pass MOT

broadcasting it on here means that you must now fix it. In the event of an accident, police can and do use web forums to secure prosecution. Just picture the scene - the judge asks you "so, having established that your passenger died because the airbag wasn't working, you discussed this on the web as early as August 2010, so I put it to you that you knew the airbag wasn't working and elected not to fix it.....". Internet Service Providers have a legal obligation to provide records to police without asking - even pm's

sorry.

airbag systems are not part of the mot yet,the only light that they check is the abs warning

[Kevin Wood]

Airbag light is ok for the mot - Our V40 has been like that for the last 2 mot's - (allways get's noted as an advisiory) - But the ABS will be a failure, Had a V70 a few years back that i bought to sell on, did all the work but the ABS was intermittant, the "Lad" at my local mot station said it would be fine to take the bulb out, so to buy some time (as it was a pig of a fault) i did just that - It failed & that will be £53 sir !! --- "But... But.. your lad said... "Oh no he shouldn't have told you that... £53 please"... "ok, but he did - what you gonna do ?"... suffice to say I went on to (Eventually)fix the ABS & had it mot'ed at another garage...

I was toying with the Idea of putting a delay circuit in to emulate the ABS lamp, But only for my own use - I could'nt sell a car like that (at least not without pointing out that there was no ABS)

Hmm. Really dodgy ground if the car ever got inspected folowing an accident. Not bothering to fix a fault is one thing, actively covering it up is quite another.

Kevin

[Brucie1946]

You can provoke the light on by removing airbag on either drivers or passenger side and by accidently turning on ignition, light will always be on after that until extinguished.  Or could be an explainable fault by plugging into tech 2 or opelscanner. Christ dont take bulb out, delboy did that on only fools n horses to save doing an oilchange on that ropey cortina he was selling! Get it looked at mate and fix it.

[Welung666]

Where are you Al? If you're local I can check the airbag system for you.

[alcutler]

three issues here.

you probably want the airbags functional.

remove the bulb & you'll no longer pass MOT

broadcasting it on here means that you must now fix it. In the event of an accident, police can and do use web forums to secure prosecution. Just picture the scene - the judge asks you "so, having established that your passenger died because the airbag wasn't working, you discussed this on the web as early as August 2010, so I put it to you that you knew the airbag wasn't working and elected not to fix it.....". Internet Service Providers have a legal obligation to provide records to police without asking - even pm's

sorry.

Thanks for the reply - yes there are a couple of issues here
1. I would like the airbag system to work correctly and for that reason I have had it checked out using Tech 2 and "My Naff Code Reader" and no fault was found with the airbag system - I also changed the airbag ECU -so I am as confident as anyone else who drives a car with an airbag that it will work when required. Its the eternal red light on the dash, which will not reset, that I find annoying and want to disable not the airbag. What does the red light do other than show that a system check is being carried out and then should go out - mine obviously doesn't.
2. The airbag system is not covered by the MOT - mine passed with red light on - two days ago
3.If a judge was to ask me about the death of a passenger in my car and the status of the airbag at the time of the accident - I would simply reply that the model Omega I drive does not have a passenger airbag installed - so it wouldn't have helped much.
4. As previously stated - its the annoying bulb I want to disable not the airbag - after all it is supposed to go out itself if working correctly! - I 'broadcast' it on the forum because I don't have a problem with it - removing / disabling the airbag is a completely different matter. I would quite happily explain to any Police Officer what I was doing and why I was doing it. Tell me the law/regulation that says it is an offence to do it - I was a Police Officer, before retiring and I can't think of one, and I never encountered colleagues scanning Forums like this to nab motorists committing motoring offences. Most of the topics listed involve members driving vehicles with some defect or another albeit for short periods of time until it was rectified - but technically committing an offence.
Can anyone on this forum be 100% sure their airbag will operate in a collision - I have done all the checks I can to  a. confirm that the airbag system works, and b. to extinguish the airbag light - I just find it very annoying when driving as it occasionally distracts me. I suppose I could have stuck a bit of black insulation tape over it !
My reason for asking the question was to ascertain whether or not bulbs were used as opposed to leds to save me removing the instrument panel for nothing.
Safety is an important issue with me but I can't see that the warning light is contributing in any way and may in fact be having the opposite effect. Having attended many Road Traffic Accidents - I have more faith in seat belts than airbags, but that is my opinion.
Thank you everyone else for your comments and offers to help - Great Forum