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Front caliper bolts sheered....ARRRRGHH!!!!
« on: 08 August 2010, 17:05:54 »

Thought I'd save a few bob and do the discs and pads myself after getting insurance money following my recent accident (lorry went into the back of me).
The rear brakes went fine, took a little while to get the old rusted discs off but that's all, enjoyed doing it.

Started trying to do fronts today. First, BOTH 13mm bolts securing the caliper to the mounting bracket sheered, so there's now no way of attaching it back. The two 18mm bolts that hold the bracket tothe hub are seized SOLID. I've used a can of WD40 on them and battered the spanner with the mallet, to no avail.
What can I do? The car is now on stands in the garage and is undriveable because of the sheered bolts, I can't reattached the caliper to drive it anywhere!!!!!!  :-/

Are the securing bolts and screws available from Vauxhall? How am I going to shift the 18mm bolts? Any help/advice or tales of similar problems would be MUCH appreciated folks!
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Re: Front caliper bolts sheered....ARRRRGHH!!!!
« Reply #1 on: 08 August 2010, 17:11:05 »

Genuine Vx pads usually have new 13mm bolts in the box.

The 18mm fixing bolts will be tight.  No good using WD40 - use plusgas.

A good fitting 18mm socket and long breaker bar should shift them with a bit of applied muscle :y

When the calipers off you will need to carefully drill out the broken bolts, probably retap the threads and fit new bolts.
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Re: Front caliper bolts sheered....ARRRRGHH!!!!
« Reply #2 on: 08 August 2010, 17:17:43 »

It does sound like your car was used in a salt water environment or something. You may find it cheaper to visit a scrapyard & replace the front suspension legs. This is not that big a job, and you can do pads/discs while it's on the bench. I think it would be preferable to the other option.
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Re: Front caliper bolts sheered....ARRRRGHH!!!!
« Reply #3 on: 08 August 2010, 17:29:25 »

Cheers guys. I know an engineer, so I may ask him to drill out the bolt and retap the threads, it's beyond my capability. I may have to invest in a decent extendable socket wrench too, at the moment I rely on a standard spanner set, so I just can't get the necessary force onto the 18mil bolts I suppose.
The pads are EBC Ultimax, so they didn't come with new 13mil bolts. Where would be the cheapest place to get new bolts do you reckon?
I'll be on the forum a lot more soon, once I've joined up properly, this really is an excellent and helpful place.  8-)
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Re: Front caliper bolts sheered....ARRRRGHH!!!!
« Reply #4 on: 08 August 2010, 17:42:45 »

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It does sound like your car was used in a salt water environment or something. You may find it cheaper to visit a scrapyard & replace the front suspension legs. This is not that big a job, and you can do pads/discs while it's on the bench. I think it would be preferable to the other option.

What happens when the OP can't get the struts off?  Obviously hasn't got the appropriate kit, as he says himself.  Easier to use the right kit than start taking other bits off - will still have to shift the 18mm caliper bolts "on the bench" - if a bench available :-/
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Re: Front caliper bolts sheered....ARRRRGHH!!!!
« Reply #5 on: 08 August 2010, 17:57:48 »

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Cheers guys. I know an engineer, so I may ask him to drill out the bolt and retap the threads, it's beyond my capability. I may have to invest in a decent extendable socket wrench too, at the moment I rely on a standard spanner set, so I just can't get the necessary force onto the 18mil bolts I suppose.
The pads are EBC Ultimax, so they didn't come with new 13mil bolts. Where would be the cheapest place to get new bolts do you reckon?
I'll be on the forum a lot more soon, once I've joined up properly, this really is an excellent and helpful place.  8-)

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Try these, two 13mm bolts won't break the bank.

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Re: Front caliper bolts sheered....ARRRRGHH!!!!
« Reply #6 on: 08 August 2010, 18:06:02 »

You do have a point, good job he has a mate who is an engineer.  :y

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It does sound like your car was used in a salt water environment or something. You may find it cheaper to visit a scrapyard & replace the front suspension legs. This is not that big a job, and you can do pads/discs while it's on the bench. I think it would be preferable to the other option.

What happens when the OP can't get the struts off?  Obviously hasn't got the appropriate kit, as he says himself.  Easier to use the right kit than start taking other bits off - will still have to shift the 18mm caliper bolts "on the bench" - if a bench available :-/
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Re: Front caliper bolts sheered....ARRRRGHH!!!!
« Reply #7 on: 08 August 2010, 18:10:40 »

If you ring Vx and describe the bolts, the guy on the end might mumble the exact size of the bolts to you.  I have just gone through replaceing all mine and Vx gave me the size and length of both bolt sizes.   :y
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Re: Front caliper bolts sheered....ARRRRGHH!!!!
« Reply #8 on: 08 August 2010, 19:40:38 »

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If you ring Vx and describe the bolts, the guy on the end might mumble the exact size of the bolts to you.  I have just gone through replaceing all mine and Vx gave me the size and length of both bolt sizes.   :y

or a better idea, ring Andy at drive in bury st edmunds, he'll know exactly what you are after!
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Re: Front caliper bolts sheered....ARRRRGHH!!!!
« Reply #9 on: 08 August 2010, 21:09:58 »

I sheared one of these bolts once but luckily the remains of the bolt just unscrewed using a pair of long nosed pliers, have you actually tried to get the remains out? Maybe I was just lucky. I use a 2ft breaker bar on the other bigger bolts and don't have too much trouble shifting them. HTH
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Re: Front caliper bolts sheered....ARRRRGHH!!!!
« Reply #10 on: 08 August 2010, 21:44:50 »

Must be a failure with the caliper mounting bolts.Last year I had 1 shear the head off while trying to remove with 18mm socket on 2ft breaker bar.
I ordered all new caliper mounting bolts direct from Vx..if I remember correctly they are a slightly different length from the back to the front.8 bolts in total.
Advise would be a really good soaking with "plusgas"that should solve problems.
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Re: Front caliper bolts sheered....ARRRRGHH!!!!
« Reply #11 on: 09 August 2010, 09:09:46 »

the caliper mounting bolts are supposed to be tight !

for the caliper to mount bracket 8mm bolts, then it'll be easier just to get two new sliders and change those.
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Re: Front caliper bolts sheered....ARRRRGHH!!!!
« Reply #12 on: 09 August 2010, 11:02:56 »

I would agree on plusgas and patience to let it soak-in.

Using a hex socket rather than the 12-sided ones on tight bolts is a must if there is any suspicion that it might fight back.  That decision obviously needs to be made before the head is graunched!

I would be wary of drilling and tapping on calipers unless done by a fully competent mech eng as it is easy to take the top off the threads.

How far into Essex are you?
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Re: Front caliper bolts sheered....ARRRRGHH!!!!
« Reply #13 on: 10 August 2010, 13:05:13 »

Update. Alldi, that was brilliant advice which hadn't even occured to me!  ::) I simply used a pair of pliers to remove the remains of the bolts, which came out really easily, happy days.

I've ordered new bolts from Vauxhall, they didn't charge much. The car is going into the garage very soon for bodywork, so I'm just going to get them to fit the front brakes, I've given up trying to get those big bolts off, and I've given up trying to get that blasted wear sensor off the pad! I'd rather pay the garage to do it this time round, at least I did the rears okay. I've read good things about these ebc pads so it'll be nice bedding it all in.

Cheers for the all the advice chaps  :y
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Re: Front caliper bolts sheered....ARRRRGHH!!!!
« Reply #14 on: 10 August 2010, 15:55:22 »

If you can get broken studs out with a pair of pliers how come they sheared off?
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