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SeedyV6

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Re: Tapping / Knocking Noise :(
« Reply #15 on: 18 August 2010, 21:32:29 »

Thanks for the response Daz  :y

I've got the VX stuff in the boot. I'll use it next. Just wanted to see if anyone thought it was worth doing a n other change beforehand.

I'll pick up some more wynns tomorrow lunchtime as well  :y

Cheers fella,

Wes.
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Re: Tapping / Knocking Noise :(
« Reply #16 on: 18 August 2010, 21:34:26 »

suppose you could put the oil in after doing the pick up pipe then see how it goes, you can leave lifter fluid in until the following oil change  :y
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Re: Tapping / Knocking Noise :(
« Reply #17 on: 18 August 2010, 21:38:19 »

Gotcha  :y At this rate, i'm gonna take the LPG out of the tank and fill it with oil....... :D Pipe it into the sump....maybe 85 litres will clean the crud out....
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Re: Tapping / Knocking Noise :(
« Reply #18 on: 18 August 2010, 21:42:12 »

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Gotcha  :y At this rate, i'm gonna take the LPG out of the tank and fill it with oil....... :D Pipe it into the sump....maybe 85 litres will clean the crud out....

Don't know that much about LPG  ::) but pretty sure that wont help Wes ;D
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« Reply #19 on: 18 August 2010, 21:45:15 »

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Gotcha  :y At this rate, i'm gonna take the LPG out of the tank and fill it with oil....... :D Pipe it into the sump....maybe 85 litres will clean the crud out....

Don't know that much about LPG  ::) but pretty sure that wont help Wes ;D

I was thinking that if i could carry round a larger oil supply i might get all the crap out of my motor  ;D not sure the oil pump would manage tho.... :D
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« Reply #20 on: 19 August 2010, 08:11:25 »

Have driven into work this morning in Homer. Left the wife car at home. Figured I might as well let the halfords oil run round a bit and remove some crud.

Noise levels are the same as yesterday. Still the drivers side bank that is giving the most noise.

Will be picking up the sump gasket and sealer at Lunch.

Was looking on the web and noticed that Vauxcentre do new lifters @ 8 quid a pop. about 200 quid inc. delivery.

Looking on the forum i noticed that Vx charge 500 quid for these! So my question is, are the lifters from Vauxcentre 'new' and has anyone used them?
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« Reply #21 on: 19 August 2010, 08:44:31 »

Get a couple more oil filters while you're at Vx.  ;)

I wouldn't buy any lifters from anywhere until you've established that you're getting plenty of oil pressure up to them.  They just don't work as intended without a decent pressure level, new ones included.

One way you might get an idea of oil pressure is to get the engine up to full temperature, then take off oil filler cap (and maybe the extension tube too on V6) while it's running.  There should be enough oil splashing around in there that you should curse me gently for getting splashes of oil on the outside of your cam cover etc.

If it looks a bit dry in there, with not much splashing, get that sump down and check the pickup.
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« Reply #22 on: 19 August 2010, 10:27:43 »

Oki doki, more filters it is  :y

I know oil supply must be the problem, was just eyeing up parts in case the issue isn't resolved by cleaning flushing etc.
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Re: Tapping / Knocking Noise :(
« Reply #23 on: 19 August 2010, 10:42:27 »

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Oki doki, more filters it is  :y

I know oil supply must be the problem, was just eyeing up parts in case the issue isn't resolved by cleaning flushing etc.

I can see what you mean Wes but if you get the pick up pipe done first you know that is clear and wont cause you any problems in the near future. It seems to be a trend lately  :-?
That is a great starting point if the problem doesnt go we need to go to the next place.  :y
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« Reply #24 on: 19 August 2010, 13:29:53 »

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Oki doki, more filters it is  :y

I know oil supply must be the problem, was just eyeing up parts in case the issue isn't resolved by cleaning flushing etc.

I can see what you mean Wes but if you get the pick up pipe done first you know that is clear and wont cause you any problems in the near future. It seems to be a trend lately  :-?
That is a great starting point if the problem doesnt go we need to go to the next place.  :y

You're right  :y I've bought more oil, filters, lifter treatment, carb cleaner, kitchen roll (miles of) and Vx grey sealer. My tools are in the boot also. I just need to get home from Bl$%dy work so i can crack on with it  :y
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« Reply #25 on: 19 August 2010, 16:36:46 »

I had this exact same problem. Did an oil filter change and it was filthy again in about 50 miles.

I promise you will be horrified with what you see in the bottom of your sump pan when you "have it off".

Use an old toothbrush to get as much crud out from further up in the engine. It will only end up in the bottom of the pan if you dont.

The crud comes in all sorts of guises - but they are all nasty.

If you use the Mrs's toothbrush make sure you clean it before you put it back?  :y
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Re: Tapping / Knocking Noise :(
« Reply #26 on: 19 August 2010, 18:13:21 »

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I had this exact same problem. Did an oil filter change and it was filthy again in about 50 miles.

I promise you will be horrified with what you see in the bottom of your sump pan when you "have it off".

Use an old toothbrush to get as much crud out from further up in the engine. It will only end up in the bottom of the pan if you dont.

The crud comes in all sorts of guises - but they are all nasty.

If you use the Mrs's toothbrush make sure you clean it before you put it back?  :y

Found an overnight soak in a drop of bleach does the job ok - she'll never notice  :) ;)
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Re: Tapping / Knocking Noise :(
« Reply #27 on: 19 August 2010, 21:53:32 »

i had a ticking /knocking noise from top of engine , did all the flushing/oil changing etc etc......still no joy

opened  up cam cover , removed camshafts , checked lifters, 2 were knackered, got two new ones, fitted and put all back together, noise gone! 

you can read my original post under 'please help'  :y

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« Reply #28 on: 20 August 2010, 07:51:40 »

Ok, sit-rep.......

It rained.....and rained.....and rained....I was quite literally soaked to the skin thru my ovvies  >:(

added flush before dropping oil - Brown/black in 24hrs  :-[

Removed the bolts from the sump pan - wouldn't budge. bit of a tap around it - still didn't budge.

Left the sump pan and went for the oil filter housing - 24mm socket attached....heave-ho and.......wouldn't budge. tried it again.....wouldn't budge.

Very, very, very wet at this point. Got a headache, hungry and not having fun, so i've left old Homer up on the axle stands.

I'm out with work tonight, so he'll have to wait until i recover some time Satruday.....assuming it doesn't rain like it did last night  :-/
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« Reply #29 on: 20 August 2010, 08:16:19 »

Whilst you have the sump off check your big ends for any obvious play  :y
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