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[duggs]

A neighbour, having seen my Elite is on the look out for an Omega but sais he only wants a 2.2...based on fuel consumption.

No matter how much I say he simply doesn't "think" he wants the V6.

The question:  Do any of the 2.0 or 2.2 owners really wish they had the V6 and for what reason.

I know it's "horses for courses" but I'm trying to convince the chap that such a large heavy car really needs the V6 engine for overall power/performance and economy. Am I talking crap (again) basically.

[Jimbob]

our 2.2 was thirsty based on being a little underpowered, so a lot of time spent heavy footed.

a 3.0 manual can be more economical.

a 2.5 / 2.6 manual is the best of both worlds 

[geoffr70]

I've heard the 2.2 isn't that much better on economy due to having to work harder.

[cem_devecioglu]

imo fuel consumptions wont be very different as miggies are all heavy.. repair on v6s a bit harder though and requires more effort..

[Cliffo B]

He simply needs to drive both cars and what about LPG??

[AlistairK]

I have a V6 (2.5 CDX auto) and I am crying with the fuel "economy" of the thing.  I get 21-23 MPG.  I'm trying to sort an LPG conversion or maybe sell it and get something already on LPG or a TDI of some sort.

[PhilRich]

I drive a 2.2 auto & on petrol I got 22mpg around town at very best! every £10 worth of petrol got me around 40 miles so approx. 25p/mile based on £1.12p/ltr. Since LPG conversion, I am still returning a mean average of 22-23 mpg at a cost average of 16p/mile based on £0.56p/ltr; despite being told that gas returns less mileage because of lower calorific value. These figures are based on running costs logged since 5th. July.
P.S. The lpg average of 16p/mile includes the cost of petrol used to start the car before lpg switchover!

[AlistairK]

My previous experiance of LPG converted cars suggests that the performance and economy drop when running on gas which everybody talks about is widely overstated. 

[PhilRich]

My previous experiance of LPG converted cars suggests that the performance and economy drop when running on gas which everybody talks about is widely overstated. 

As stated above Alistair, my mean mpg on gas has actually improved on my previous petrol consumption, yet I do the same runs every day under broadly the same driving conditions. The only difference in performance i've noticed is a slight hesitation at the top of the rev range (5-6000rpm) which I am led to believe is probably due to shortcomings in the lpg vapouriser. Normal driving/accelleration is identical whether on petrol or lpg

[albitz]

I drive a 2.2 auto & on petrol I got 22mpg around town at very best! every £10 worth of petrol got me around 40 miles so approx. 25p/mile based on £1.12p/ltr. Since LPG conversion, I am still returning a mean average of 22-23 mpg at a cost average of 16p/mile based on £0.56p/ltr; despite being told that gas returns less mileage because of lower calorific value. These figures are based on running costs logged since 5th. July.
P.S. The lpg average of 16p/mile includes the cost of petrol used to start the car before lpg switchover!

Those figures are virtually identical to my 2.5 v6.
As for the original question. If the chap is concerned about economy, then he probably shouldnt buy any petrol engined Omega. Unless it has LPG conversion imo.

[dbr]

 v6 every time

[DodgeyDave]

If he is that bothered about economy then any standard petrol Omega is not really the car for him.

My 2.6 V6 does about 26 mpg; but as it's LPG it only costs me about £45 to fill it, with this i can do about 350 miles.

On petrol it would cost me about £70 to get me roughly the same distance, maybe a few miles more.

As far as performance, i see very little, if any diffenence.

The only sacrafice is a smaller boot, which I can live with

[Abiton]

My missus's 2.0 (manual gearbox) gets close to 30mpg average, and mostly only does short urban/suburban journeys.

Driven gently, it's not too bad for its mass. 
Probably not the engine of choice for anyone who has something to prove on the road though.

As for maintenance, I'm very glad she doesn't have a V6; so many jobs that are pretty easy on the 4-pot sound balls-achey on the Vs. 

[Tony H]

Overall economy really dedends on what sort of driving your neigbour does. If he does alot of motorway miles driven carfully I have returned mid thirties mpg, on the other hand town driving really nails fuel comsumption. I have noticed a corrollation between average speed and fuel use they seem to work out the same, e.g. 18 mph = 18 mpg 21 mph = 21 mpg.

[davethediver]

Stick your foot down Tony and you'll be laughing, average speed 60

Can't vouch for a V6 but the 2.2 isn't that economical IME.