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Re: Abs ecu Tc and starting issues
« Reply #15 on: 04 December 2010, 20:09:10 »
Engine :
"My Naff Code Reader" 100219a - PC based diagnostic tool      
      
Date and time>      04/12/2010. 19:704
      
Workshop information:      
      
The Omega Man      
      
      
Selected model>      2001
      
Control Unit:       
      
      
KW82 protocol initialized.      
      
ECU ID= AF      90566817
      
      
Measuring blocks information:      
      
Identifier      1D
Battery Voltage      13.4 V
Immobiliser Signal      Received
Immobiliser      Active
TPS Signal (Throttle Position Sensor)      0.58 V
Simulated Idle Position      Active
Simulated Full Load Switch      Inactive
Mass Air Flow Sensor      0.80 V
Mass Air Flow Sensor      15 kg/h
Coolant Temperature      0.76 V
Coolant Temperature      103 °C
Intake Air Temperature      3.33 V
Intake Air Temperature      25 °C
Engine Type      6 Cylinder
Transmission Coding      Automatic Transmission
Park/Neutral Switch      P - N  0V
A/C Information Switch (Air Conditioning)      Inactive 0V
A/C Compressor Switch (Air Conditioning)      Inactive 0V
Telltale (Check Light)      Off 12V
Fuel Pump Relay      Active 0V
Spark Angle before TDC (Top Dead Centre)      12 °CA
Ignition Coil Cyl. 1+4 (Cylinder)      Load
Ignition Coil Cyl. 2+5      Load
Ignition Coil Cyl. 3+6 (Cylinder)      Load
Knock Signal      Inactive
Knock Retard      0 °CA
Secondary Air Pump Relay      Inactive 12V
EGR Valve (Exhaust-Gas Recirculation)      Inactive
EGR Position Feedback (Exhaust Gas Recirculation)      0.68 V
Fuel Tank Ventilation Valve      0%
O2 Sensor 1      829 mV
O2 Sensor 2      185 mV
O2 Sensor Loop 1      Closed
O2 Sensor Loop 2      Closed
Air/Fuel Ratio 1      Lean
Air/Fuel Ratio 2      Rich
O2-Loop 1 Integrator      133 Steps
O2-Loop 2 Integrator      133
O2-Loop 1 BLM Idle (Block Learn Map)      76 Steps
O2-Loop 2 BLM Idle (Block Learn Map)      47 Steps
O2-Loop 1 BLM Partial Load (Block Learn Map)      135 Steps
O2-Loop 2 BLM Partial Load(Block Learn Map)      132 Steps
Hall Sensor      Active
Engine Speed Pulse      Inactive
Engine Speed      816 RPM
Idle Air Control      140 Steps
IAC Integrator (Idle Air Control)      128 Steps
IAC Adaptation Slope (Idle Air Control)      150 Steps
IAC Block Learn (Idle Air Control)      127 Steps
Desired Idle Air      13 kg/h
Actual Value Idle Air      13 kg/h
Desired Engine Idle Speed      940 RPM
Injection Pulse      2.9 ms
Engine Load Signal      1.1 ms
TPS Load Signal (Throttle Position Sensor)      0%
Vehicle Speed Pulse      Not Received 12V
Vehicle Speed      0 km/h
Intake Manifold Valve 1      Inactive 12V
Intake Manifold Valve 2      Inactive 12V
Torque Control      Inactive
A/C Cutoff Relay (Air Conditioning)      Inactive 12V
Diagnostic Request      Inactive 5V
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Re: Abs ecu Tc and starting issues
« Reply #16 on: 04 December 2010, 20:10:21 »
Gearbox :

"My Naff Code Reader" 100219a - PC based diagnostic tool                  
                  
Date and time>      04/12/2010. 19:820            
                  
Workshop information:                  
                  
The Omega Man                  
                  
                  
Selected model>      2001      Omega-B      Transmission
                  
Control Unit:                   
                  
Keyword #1: 6B                  
Keyword #2: 8F                  
                  
Normal timing parameter set.                  
                  
vehicleManufacturerECUHardwareNumber 96018355                     
systemSupplierECUSoftwareNumber: HX 09 32                    
systemNameOrEngineType:  GS820 X30XE                           
CalibrationDate: 01                  
                  
Identifier: 0103                  
                  
systemSupplierECUSoftwareVersionNumber: 0008                  
exhaustRegulationOrTypeApprovalNumber: Not programmed                  
VehicleManufacturerSpecific: 0260002437                  
VehicleManufacturerSpecific: 3337635588                  
VIN: W0L0VBP69Y1175447                  
RepairShopCodeOrTesterSerialNumber:  Not programmed                  
ProgrammingDate:  FFFFFFFF                  
systemSupplierECUHardwareNumber: BOS  0201000002                  
CalibrationEquipmentSoftwareNumber: 96018085 CK                  
                  
Measuring blocks information:                  
                  
Emergency Mode      Inactive            
Selected Mode      Economy Program            
System Voltage      13.5 V            
Internal Power Control Final Stage      Active            
Brake Light Switch      Inactive 0V            
Sport Program Switch      Inactive 12V            
Sport Program Indicator      Economy 12V            
Winter Program Switch      Inactive 12V            
Winter Program Indicator      Econ./Sport 12V            
Kickdown Switch      Inactive 12V            
A/C Information Switch (Air Conditioning)      Inactive 0V            
Selector Position      -P-            
Terminal A Selector Position Switch      Active 12V            
Terminal B Selector Position Switch      Inactive 0V            
Terminal C Selector Position Switch      Inactive 0V            
Terminal G Selector Position Switch      Active 12V            
Park/Neutral Signal      P - N  0V            
Engine Speed      832 RPM            
Coolant Temperature Signal      > 40°C            
TPS Load Signal (Throttle Position Sensor)      8%            
Pressure Regulator Solenoid Valve      863 mA            
Calculated Pressure      4.1 bar            
1-2/3-4 Shift Solenoid Valve      Inactive 12V            
2-3 Shift Solenoid Valve      Active 0V            
Band Apply Solenoid Valve      0%            
TCC Solenoid (Torque Converter Clutch)      Inactive 12V            
AT Output Speed (Automatic Transmission)      0 RPM            
AT Oil Temperature (Automatic Transmission)      89 °C            
AT Oil Temperature (Automatic Transmission)      0.82 V            
Torque Control Signal      Inactive            
Desired Torque Control      0%            
Actual Gear      -1-            
Transmission Ratio      9%            
Ignition / Injection Cutoff      85%            
Malfunction Indication      Inactive 12V            

"My Naff Code Reader" 100219a - PC based diagnostic tool

The Omega Man

"My Naff Code Reader" - KW2000 Communication Window> 2001|Omega-B|Transmission|AR 25/35

Keyword #1: 6B
Keyword #2: 8F

Normal timing parameter set.

vehicleManufacturerECUHardwareNumber 96018355   
systemSupplierECUSoftwareNumber: HX 09 32 
systemNameOrEngineType:  GS820 X30XE         
CalibrationDate: 01

Identifier: 0103

systemSupplierECUSoftwareVersionNumber: 0008
exhaustRegulationOrTypeApprovalNumber: Not programmed
VehicleManufacturerSpecific: 0260002437
VehicleManufacturerSpecific: 3337635588
VIN: W0L0VBP69Y1175447
RepairShopCodeOrTesterSerialNumber:  Not programmed
ProgrammingDate:  FFFFFFFF
systemSupplierECUHardwareNumber: BOS  0201000002
CalibrationEquipmentSoftwareNumber: 96018085 CK


Total number of fault codes: 2

P1844 - Ignition/Injection Cutoff Circuit High Input
 (05) - Not present

P1844 - Ignition/Injection Cutoff Circuit Incorrect Signal
 (08) - Not present
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Re: Abs ecu Tc and starting issues
« Reply #17 on: 04 December 2010, 20:11:27 »
ABS :
Stationary snapshot, but live data taken on a drive and all sensors always within 1kph of each other


"My Naff Code Reader" 100219a - PC based diagnostic tool                  
                  
Date and time>      04/12/2010. 19:1037            
                  
Workshop information:                  
                  
The Omega Man                  
                  
                  
Selected model>      2001      Omega-B      Chassis
                  
Control Unit:                   
                  
Keyword #1: 6B                  
Keyword #2: 8F                  
                  
Normal timing parameter set.                  
                  
vehicleManufacturerECUHardwareNumber Not programmed                  
                  
Identifier: 0000                  
                  
systemNameOrEngineType:  Not programmed                  
ECUInstallationDate: 00                  
systemSupplierECUHardwareNumber: 0000000000                  
systemSupplierECUSoftwareNumber: 024578                  
                  
Measuring blocks information:                  
                  
Battery Voltage      13.27 V            
Brake Light Switch      Inactive 0V            
FL Wheel Speed (Front Left)      0 km/h            
FR Wheel Speed (Front Right)      0 km/h            
RL Wheel Speed (Rear Left)      0 km/h            
RR Wheel Speed (Rear Right)      0 km/h            
Valve Relay Command      Active            
Valve Relay Feedback      Active            
Return Pump Relay Command      Inactive            
Return Pump Feedback      Inactive            
FL ABS Valves Command (Front Left)      Normal Braking            
FL ABS Valves Feedback (Front Left)      Normal Braking            
FR ABS Valves Command (Front Right)      Normal Braking            
FR ABS Valves Feedback (Front Right)      Normal Braking            
RL ABS Valves Command (Rear Left)      Normal Braking            
RL ABS Valves Feedback (Rear Left)      Normal Braking            
RR ABS Valves Command (Rear Right)      Normal Braking            
RR ABS Valves Feedback (Rear Right)      Normal Braking            


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Re: Abs ecu Tc and starting issues
« Reply #18 on: 04 December 2010, 20:15:59 »
Ohhh, and "My Naff Code Reader" can normally program varient coding...
but it appears it can only change a programmed ecu...

This control unit is only partially programmed!

Before you can use this control unit, a procedure
called SPS programming must be done.
This means, that a so called calibration file will be downloaded to the ECU.
This calibaration file contains important settings, and parameters.
"My Naff Code Reader" is currently unable to do this kind of programming.

For more information, please look at your user's guide.
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Re: Abs ecu Tc and starting issues
« Reply #19 on: 04 December 2010, 20:18:47 »
OK, looks like at least we know what the issue is, and it need hooking up to a Tech2.  Thanks Jimbob :y

I didn't want Rossi123 to travel if it wasn't something we could sort with one trip...
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Re: Abs ecu Tc and starting issues
« Reply #20 on: 04 December 2010, 20:19:48 »
Given previous experience with "My Naff Code Reader"s programming capability, I'm not sure I would trust it for this anyway...
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Re: Abs ecu Tc and starting issues
« Reply #21 on: 04 December 2010, 20:22:20 »
Should have said, we were met by that message as soon as "My Naff Code Reader" started communication with the ECU....didnt need to try programming.
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Re: Abs ecu Tc and starting issues
« Reply #22 on: 05 December 2010, 00:05:54 »
Thanks for letting pop across there on a cold saturday evening your a star, so for the next job it looks like a trip to see the boy and get it sorted and then I can get the other jobs sorted thanks again for your help jimbob :)
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Re: Abs ecu Tc and starting issues
« Reply #23 on: 05 December 2010, 10:11:12 »
No worries, glad we got to the bottom of it
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Re: Abs ecu Tc and starting issues
« Reply #24 on: 11 December 2010, 15:55:30 »
I've just seen this car, and it looks like the ECU has is either the wrong one (potentially possible it got mixed up at the repairers), or has been corrupted.

Sadly, its not something Tech2 can deal with - as it cannot even read the partnumber, it cannot do anything, as it doesn't know what ECU it is.


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Re: Abs ecu Tc and starting issues
« Reply #25 on: 11 December 2010, 16:53:19 »
Thats disapointing, guess its back to the repairers now to see what they have to say, or just call your losses and obtain another from a breaker.
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Re: Abs ecu Tc and starting issues
« Reply #26 on: 11 December 2010, 17:26:03 »
Just been thinking about it and I'm goin to look into getting another one from a breaker either by posting on here or through other avenues and see what comes of that.
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Re: Abs ecu Tc and starting issues
« Reply #27 on: 11 December 2010, 22:03:47 »
as you havent the posts, any wanted ad in the test zone will be moved for you  :y
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Re: Abs ecu Tc and starting issues
« Reply #28 on: 11 December 2010, 23:56:15 »
Cheers sir your a good un
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Re: Abs ecu Tc and starting issues
« Reply #29 on: 12 December 2010, 09:52:47 »
The more I think about this, I'm wondering if the repair wasn't as good as it could be...

Obviously the processor is running to be able to respond to diagnostics, but its as if it cannot read part of its eprom...  ...wonder if power is not getting to entire board.



Yes, very disappointing, I don't like failure, esp as rossi123 isn't exactly just around the corner  :-[
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