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[Graceland]

Had the FK452 on an E39 540i Sport a few years ago, not a bad tyre and good road mannors regardless of the weather.

But saying that, I had the predecessor, the FK451 on my 380bhp 4x4 Cosworth and absolutely hammered them to bits on the Nurburgring - they only lasted about 20 laps and were brand new before going. BUT saying that, they were superb tyres - Just a shame they arn't made anymore

[feeutfo]

agree the previos model was better, but fit any Falken to an omega at your peril!

an opinion based on experience and two years of very expensive diagnosis including numerous full geo set ups, changing parts unnecessarily, only cured by kind members on here allowing me to swap wheels with other makes (Dunlops) fitted. And ....  "* dedaah*" the car miraculously drove perfectly straight, even with worn out Dunlops.

Falkens bind with 5k tread left as they where dangerous, sports contact 3 fitted and the car is a delight to drive through out their life.

Said this before and I'll keep saying it as long as I live " NEVER NEVER EVER FIT FALKEN TYRES TO AN OMEGA......[size=24]EVER[/size]

[Entwood]

agree the previos model was better, but fit any Falken to an omega at your peril!

an opinion based on experience and two years of very expensive diagnosis including numerous full geo set ups, changing parts unnecessarily, only cured by kind members on here allowing me to swap wheels with other makes (Dunlops) fitted. And ....  "* dedaah*" the car miraculously drove perfectly straight, even with worn out Dunlops.

Falkens bind with 5k tread left as they where dangerous, sports contact 3 fitted and the car is a delight to drive through out their life.

Said this before and I'll keep saying it as long as I live " NEVER NEVER EVER FIT FALKEN TYRES TO AN OMEGA......[size=24]EVER[/size]

Are you sure about that I thought I detected a moments hesitation .....   

[TheBoy]

agree the previos model was better, but fit any Falken to an omega at your peril!

an opinion based on experience and two years of very expensive diagnosis including numerous full geo set ups, changing parts unnecessarily, only cured by kind members on here allowing me to swap wheels with other makes (Dunlops) fitted. And ....  "* dedaah*" the car miraculously drove perfectly straight, even with worn out Dunlops.

Falkens bind with 5k tread left as they where dangerous, sports contact 3 fitted and the car is a delight to drive through out their life.

Said this before and I'll keep saying it as long as I live " NEVER NEVER EVER FIT FALKEN TYRES TO AN OMEGA......[size=24]EVER[/size]

I seem to recall you stuck an old set of Linlongs on, just to get shot of the ditchfinder Falkens?

[feeutfo]

agree the previos model was better, but fit any Falken to an omega at your peril!

an opinion based on experience and two years of very expensive diagnosis including numerous full geo set ups, changing parts unnecessarily, only cured by kind members on here allowing me to swap wheels with other makes (Dunlops) fitted. And ....  "* dedaah*" the car miraculously drove perfectly straight, even with worn out Dunlops.

Falkens bind with 5k tread left as they where dangerous, sports contact 3 fitted and the car is a delight to drive through out their life.

Said this before and I'll keep saying it as long as I live " NEVER NEVER EVER FIT FALKEN TYRES TO AN OMEGA......[size=24]EVER[/size]

I seem to recall you stuck an old set of Linlongs on, just to get shot of the ditchfinder Falkens?

Slingalongs where on the sport stars which came later, I'd rather them than the 912's.

[zirax]

Slingalongs where on the sport stars which came later, I'd rather them than the 912's.

So to be clear you have driven 912s which are known to be rubbish and are then tarring the 452s with the same brush?

[feeutfo]

Slingalongs where on the sport stars which came later, I'd rather them than the 912's.

So to be clear you have driven 912s which are known to be rubbish and are then tarring the 452s with the same brush?

Have had the previous 451(I think) and it's replacement  452, the 912 was the the worst of all!

So yes, not just Rubbish,  SHITE!

Which bit of SHITE are we not getting? ( sound s a bit rude, my appologies, but really need to make the point)

Any more questions?

[zirax]

Oh I'm getting that you think they are shyte perfectly. I just don't agree. Its clear that anything I say is going to be slammed so I will not bother and so I will not reply again to this topic.

We agree to disagree and I will leave it there.

[msb1973]

Slingalongs where on the sport stars which came later, I'd rather them than the 912's.

So to be clear you have driven 912s which are known to be rubbish and are then tarring the 452s with the same brush?

Have had the previous 451(I think) and it's replacement  452, the 912 was the the worst of all!

So yes, not just Rubbish,  SHITE!

Which bit of SHITE are we not getting? ( sound s a bit rude, my appologies, but really need to make the point)

Any more questions?

I posted in another thread about the falken tyres and disagree with the remarks about how SHITE they are but it has been noted that this particular vehicle they do not suit, how are goodyears on these as have had these on previous cars and always been happy with them as well

[Shackeng]

I must comment that at a recent visit to WIM I asked the fitter, not Tony, for a tyre recommendation, and he said, "...................
well I think you've guessed it. 

[msb1973]

Oh I'm getting that you think they are shyte perfectly. I just don't agree. Its clear that anything I say is going to be slammed so I will not bother and so I will not reply again to this topic.

We agree to disagree and I will leave it there.

opinions do vary and i also got slammed in previous thread on these tyres, even though i've had them on my old 320+bhp m3, a 300+bhp 540 and fitted 912s with no probs to the partners old astra as i was so impressed by the performance on the other 2 cars, the m3 incidently was a fast road/ trackday car and stuck to the road and track like shit to a blanket and was only beaten lap time wise on a trackday last year by a similarly modded scooby on R888s and a audi r8(totally different league again) but obviously some of us newbies know nothing eh?

[hotel21]

Oh I'm getting that you think they are shyte perfectly. I just don't agree. Its clear that anything I say is going to be slammed so I will not bother and so I will not reply again to this topic.

We agree to disagree and I will leave it there.

opinions do vary and i also got slammed in previous thread on these tyres, even though i've had them on my old 320+bhp m3, a 300+bhp 540 and fitted 912s with no probs to the partners old astra as i was so impressed by the performance on the other 2 cars, the m3 incidently was a fast road/ trackday car and stuck to the road and track like shit to a blanket and was only beaten lap time wise on a trackday last year by a similarly modded scooby on R888s and a audi r8(totally different league again) but obviously some of us newbies know nothing eh?

I would suggest that tyres, like oil, is very much a personal thing and quite subjective and very much to an individuals taste and experiences.

Chrisgixer has obviously had a bad experience with one make of tyres whilst others are quite happy with them.

Ultimately, its down to personal preference as well as what you can afford.

Personally, I do not go past Goodyears when in a large heavy car like the Omega but I base that observation on many hundreds of thousands of miles in a professioanl capacity in a previous life as a traffic cop when Goodyears were fitted as standard on all the fleet vehicles.

I am now in the lucky financial position that I stick with what I like rather than go budget shopping and experiment to save a few quid.

Oh!  And we were all newbies once upon a time so dont be put off by someone being more vocal than anyone else.   

[msb1973]

thanks you've put things into perspective and you do seem to get what you pay for with tyres and we've all experienced good and bad, thanks agian mark

[TheBoy]

I think that whilst the Falkens, particularly the 452, work well on many cars, the 452 and the 912 appear to be less suitable on the Omega.

I have personally experienced chrisgixer's car on near new 912s (lethal) and 10 mins later on the same piece of road on SP9000 (worn, when SP9000 are known to tramline like a pig).  The SP9000 were several magnitudes better - the car was normal. We put his 912s on my car, which became dangerous to drive. I have also driven that same car on budget LinLongs and SC3's - both fine. Those 912s simply do not work on the Omega imho.  I believe chrisgixer got the manufacturer to examine them, but no fault found.

I have had the pleasure to drive lots of Omegas. I have had similar situations with members cars on 452s (and others). If unable to find a suspension/steering issue, we occasionally swap wheels with mine, sometimes that cures it (sometimes it doesn't - in which case I recommend WIM).

But these tyres may well work better on other cars.  I wouldn't put P6000s on a skateboard, but will always shove them on our Rover as they work so well on that (shame no longer available).



*BUT* we all have different demands from our tyres. For me, excellent grip in wet or dry is more important than outright cost, durability, or snow.  The next person may be more interested in cost and durability, as they make less demands on outright grip.

[feeutfo]

Don't take my word for it, two very prominent members on here helped diagnose the problem by lending me their Dunlop shod wheels and the symptoms disapered as said.

 Bigdods also took a very firm, and justified stance given his experience with them on other cars, that Falkens are good tyres.

...so here we have the problem they may well work on smaller front wheel drive cars? I suspect they do, along with pirelli p zero, I would not fit them to an omega either btw.

But my point really is what works on one car does not necessarily work on another, and certainly 3000 miles is not enough to experience the full range of issues to be encountered over a tyres life.

So for info expect ad follows...
4k miles vagueness creeps in
8k miles start looking for faults on the car
10 to 12 k having replaced and checked all relevant components on the car(see handling guide in faq) post up on here asking for help with straight-line handling issues such as constant correction at the steering wheel, random pulling and side movement giving a feeling of failed bushes loss of directional control, a built in speed limit of 50 on B roads as the car is impossible to keep put of the ditch or on your own side of the road at any higher speed.

They're fine once in a corner, although the 912 has the harder compound to be fair, it's the straight-line stability that is appaling after about 5k.

So, over 3 different falken models and over the entire life of those same 3 models backed up by others witnessing the symptoms on an omega elite and same symptoms on 2.5 CDX previosly on my pre forum days, I can say there is nothing subjective or otherwise to be considered, fit Falkens to an omega at your peril!


Must say I am intrigued to find out why Nd what cost me so much time and agro? Maybe they are suited to smaller front wheel drive cars as said? They would handel better with higher psi, something approaching 37 psi, as on the rear of her polo, and they would go straight but the ride was bloody in uncomfortable to say the least.

Should also mention, I too was very pleased with them once fitted, they are Sooo quiet and comfortable to begin with, but to end with, water balloons would be more stable!