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[smirnoff]

Hello to all
I'm think of getting Omega but due to need it as my daily drive
the economy is on my mind
so. ......
Do I go for the 2.5 td with bmw motor in it
or
2.2 dti with vauxhall motor
??

[Andy B]

decisions decisions 
2.2 in only available with 3 pedals whereas a 2.5 also comes with 2 .... that might be a consideration.  :-/

[tunnie]

if I where to pick a tractor, be 2.5TD. 2.2 DTi is rough, seen Transits pull away with more refinement. Its not really bad engine, just the 6 pots of the 2.5 make it much smoother.

Also worth considering is 2.5TD will generally be pre-facelift, 2.2 DTi was fitted in 2001, so if your after newer examples it has to be 2.2, plus as Andy mentioned, they are all manuals.

[Seth]

It's gotta be the 2.5TD!

[greenfingers 79]

2.2dti has more torque

[greenfingers 79]

as for tunies comment, he must have seen a bad example of a 2.2dti as most run sweet as a nut!
i average 45 mpg on the motorway in mine

[Andy B]

2.2dti has more torque

but less bhp & less cylinders     

[greenfingers 79]

indeed but a better engine i think as why would they have changed it from a bmw lump?
2.2dti does burn a bit of oil though but apparently was a design fault with a too high gloss finish somewhere inside the pots

[Andy B]

indeed but a better engine i think as why would they have changed it from a bmw lump? ......

But does newer mean better? Look at the finish inside a facelift car, that's definitely not better. I think it's just that manufacturers woud like their own engines in a car rather than rely on someone else.
I've only ever driven a 2.5 a couple of miles so can't comment on which is best. For me though I'd immediately dismiss the 2.2 cos it only comes with 3 pedals. 

[greenfingers 79]

im going to be biased with the 2.2dti as i drive one and i definately prefer 3 pedals to 2 all day long, for 1 better mpg and more fun to drive

[Andy B]

..... and more fun to drive

maybe for a 'sports car' but for a tonne & three quarter diseasal barge?  :-/

[Shackeng]

I drive a chipped '99 MFL 2.5TD, and it is NOT economical. I only get about 26 locally, and 33 on a run. I still love driving it however. HTH 

[tunnie]

as for tunies comment, he must have seen a bad example of a 2.2dti as most run sweet as a nut!
i average 45 mpg on the motorway in mine

See quite a few of them in London, just pulling away the London Taxi's sound better!

[TheBoy]

indeed but a better engine i think as why would they have changed it from a bmw lump?
2.2dti does burn a bit of oil though but apparently was a design fault with a too high gloss finish somewhere inside the pots

Cost. All changes are about cost.


Both have their pros and cons.  The 2.5TD REALLY REALLY REALLY does need very regular oil changes.  The 2.2DTi just REALLY needs regular oil changes (around 3k for both of them).


Personally, I think the TD is the better engine, but it needs chipping.  DTi is only available as manual, but I think that the auto in the TD holds it back - its a much more pleasant car with a manual box.


Economy between a 2.2 and a 2.5 (chipped - std 2.5 is a dog) manual is around the same. The 2.5TD auto (chipped) is around 33mpg day to day, high thrities on a run (the chipping confuses the onboard MPG reading, so you have to do mpg the old fashioned way).

[Shackeng]

indeed but a better engine i think as why would they have changed it from a bmw lump?
2.2dti does burn a bit of oil though but apparently was a design fault with a too high gloss finish somewhere inside the pots

Cost. All changes are about cost.


Both have their pros and cons.  The 2.5TD REALLY REALLY REALLY does need very regular oil changes.  The 2.2DTi just REALLY needs regular oil changes (around 3k for both of them).


Personally, I think the TD is the better engine, but it needs chipping.  DTi is only available as manual, but I think that the auto in the TD holds it back - its a much more pleasant car with a manual box.


Economy between a 2.2 and a 2.5 (chipped - std 2.5 is a dog) manual is around the same. The 2.5TD auto (chipped) is around 33mpg day to day, high thrities on a run (the chipping confuses the onboard MPG reading, so you have to do mpg the old fashioned way).

Not with mine, see above