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[shyboy]

Just to continue this old saga a little further, I'd appreciate some comments on the following.
DLK did the cambelt etc. on my 2.6l facelift estate some time ago and changed the oil, but had to abandon removing the top of the filter cover as it began to break. I just haven't had time, through hospitilisation, to look at it again, but have decided to do the spin-on conversion as soon as I'm active again.
When I ordered the required replacement connector, I was told by the spares department at a VX main dealer, (always very helpful by the way), that they were reluctant to fit these to 2.6 and 3.2 versions, as opposed to 2.5 and 3.0, as they "caused breakdowns". I'm sure this is duff information but wonder whether this has been suggested to anybody else, and whether there is any substance to the argument.
I've ordered the part and intend to do the job ASAP, but found the comment puzzling.
By the way, I was told that they use a tool like a large pair of pliers to remove these covers and go down from the top. Does he know what he's talking about?
Cheers,
Bill.

[mantahatch]

I can't think of any reason they would cause the 2.6/3.2 to have problems unless there is a difference in flow rates through the filters.

As for undoing the filter from the top the person you spoke to obviously has no idea what he is talking about. I would suggest it is impossible to do it from the top.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I can't think of any reason they would cause the 2.6/3.2 to have problems unless there is a difference in flow rates through the filters.

As for undoing the filter from the top the person you spoke to obviously has no idea what he is talking about. I would suggest it is impossible to do it from the top.

So would I!!

The only way on a V6 is from underneath, unless of course you have arms like Twizzel!!

[V6 CDX-er]

I had some quite serious problems removing my old canister filter with the cap splitting in two. I tried allsorts before getting the angle grinder on it.

I simply cannot see any way in which the filter could be removed from above?  :-?

As for problems with reliability upon doing the conversion, I cant see oil flow or oil pressure being an issue. The only problem that I can foresee is if studlock isn't used to secure the threaded bar that the spin-on filter attatches to?

A quick couple of word of advice;

Using an oil filter canister cap removal tool will likely make removing the canister cap a lot easier. Something like this; http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/facom-oil-filter-cap-sockets

You'll also need a 12mm hex drive to remove the canister from the block.

There are two different types of spin-on filter available from Vauxhall. A white shorter one, and a grey longer one. DO NOT USE THE WHITE ONE. IT WILL POP OFF RESULTING IN YOU LOOSING ALL OIL.

And try not to spill too much oil, (or any at all really), on the crank sensor. If you do, remove it gently and give it a clean.


HTH?

[Jimbob]

the issue, as far as Im aware is the 'old' style has less surface area, so can therefore support longer oil change intervals.

So providing you keep yours well below the VX intervals, then you have no problem, just easier, cheaper oil changes 

[shyboy]

Thanks for your comments and advice. Very much what I was thinking.
I might invest in the cap removal tool to see if solves the problem of difficult removal which seems to bug so many attempts, and post a report on the result in due course.

[dbug]

I had some quite serious problems removing my old canister filter with the cap splitting in two. I tried allsorts before getting the angle grinder on it.

I simply cannot see any way in which the filter could be removed from above?  :-?

As for problems with reliability upon doing the conversion, I cant see oil flow or oil pressure being an issue. The only problem that I can foresee is if studlock isn't used to secure the threaded bar that the spin-on filter attatches to?

A quick couple of word of advice;

Using an oil filter canister cap removal tool will likely make removing the canister cap a lot easier. Something like this; http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/facom-oil-filter-cap-sockets

You'll also need a 12mm hex drive to remove the canister from the block.

There are two different types of spin-on filter available from Vauxhall. A white shorter one, and a grey longer one. DO NOT USE THE WHITE ONE. IT WILL POP OFF RESULTING IN YOU LOOSING ALL OIL.
And try not to spill too much oil, (or any at all really), on the crank sensor. If you do, remove it gently and give it a clean.


HTH?

??  Why will it pop off if its fitted correctly? :-?

[V6 CDX-er]

I had some quite serious problems removing my old canister filter with the cap splitting in two. I tried allsorts before getting the angle grinder on it.

I simply cannot see any way in which the filter could be removed from above?  :-?

As for problems with reliability upon doing the conversion, I cant see oil flow or oil pressure being an issue. The only problem that I can foresee is if studlock isn't used to secure the threaded bar that the spin-on filter attatches to?

A quick couple of word of advice;

Using an oil filter canister cap removal tool will likely make removing the canister cap a lot easier. Something like this; http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/facom-oil-filter-cap-sockets

You'll also need a 12mm hex drive to remove the canister from the block.

There are two different types of spin-on filter available from Vauxhall. A white shorter one, and a grey longer one. DO NOT USE THE WHITE ONE. IT WILL POP OFF RESULTING IN YOU LOOSING ALL OIL.
And try not to spill too much oil, (or any at all really), on the crank sensor. If you do, remove it gently and give it a clean.


HTH?

??  Why will it pop off if its fitted correctly? :-?

Because the shorter white filter cannot withstand the same oil pressure as the longer grey filter.

It lasted about 40 seconds on mine.

[robson]

When you say it pops off what happens does the end blow off ,the thread strip? It sounds most bizarre.

[harpersimon]

I've never considered changing my cannister type, as I figure all things for a reason. If they wanted a cannister when they deisgned the car/engine/oil flow - they'd have fitted one. Might be a poor design or more convenient in some eyes but it works fine as is (never had a seized on issue of course, maybe change my mind if it breaks one day!)

[Andy H]

When you say it pops off what happens does the end blow off ,the thread strip? It sounds most bizarre.

Sounds to me as though a completely wrong filter was supplied and fitted. So wrong that the threaded boss didn't engage properly and popped off under pressure.

[dbug]

When you say it pops off what happens does the end blow off ,the thread strip? It sounds most bizarre.

Sounds to me as though a completely wrong filter was supplied and fitted. So wrong that the threaded boss didn't engage properly and popped off under pressure.

Tend to agree - AFAIK there's only one size spin on filter for the V6 - some are painted grey, some white!!  Never had any probs with either colour on either of ours    Either not fitted properly or agree wrong type fitted.

[Marks DTM Calib]

When you say it pops off what happens does the end blow off ,the thread strip? It sounds most bizarre.

Sounds to me as though a completely wrong filter was supplied and fitted. So wrong that the threaded boss didn't engage properly and popped off under pressure.

Tend to agree - AFAIK there's only one size spin on filter for the V6 - some are painted grey, some white!!  Never had any probs with either colour on either of ours    Either not fitted properly or agree wrong type fitted.

The standard metal case filter has been fitted to Vx's for about the last 30 years to almost all the Vx engines and has not changed.....amazing that a Vx dealer could supply the wrong one.

[Bent valve]

the issue, as far as Im aware is the 'old' style has less surface area, so can therefore support longer oil change intervals.
So providing you keep yours well below the VX intervals, then you have no problem, just easier, cheaper oil changes 

How can a filter with less surface area support longer oil change intervals?

[mantahatch]

the issue, as far as Im aware is the 'old' style has less surface area, so can therefore support longer oil change intervals.
So providing you keep yours well below the VX intervals, then you have no problem, just easier, cheaper oil changes 

How can a filter with less surface area support longer oil change intervals?

I think it is supposed to say "can't"