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[Big_Al]

Hi guys,


               If anyone can access the EPC , could you help by giving me the part no. for air shocks to fit a 2000 (W reg.) 3.0  Facelift   Saloon.

I think there are 2 types Saloon & Estate. As my car is riding high at the rear , i am trying to eliminate that the Incorrect shocks have been fitted.

If both part No's can be supplied  I can match up to what is on the label  of mine

TIA ,     AL

[Andy B]

Hi guys,


               If anyone can access the EPC , could you help by giving me the part no. for air shocks to fit a 2000 (W reg.) 3.0  Facelift   Saloon.

I think there are 2 types Saloon & Estate. As my car is riding high at the rear , i am trying to eliminate that the Incorrect shocks have been fitted.

If both part No's can be supplied  I can match up to what is on the label  of mine

TIA ,     AL

 

Omega Part Number Retail Price Normal Trade Trade Club
Shock absorbers, rear (single)
Saloon with self-levelling suspension 72119084 £116.00 £98.64 £73.98

 
 
Estate with self-levelling suspension 72119085 £116.00 £98.64 £73.98

 

[Big_Al]

Hi guys,


               If anyone can access the EPC , could you help by giving me the part no. for air shocks to fit a 2000 (W reg.) 3.0  Facelift   Saloon.

I think there are 2 types Saloon & Estate. As my car is riding high at the rear , i am trying to eliminate that the Incorrect shocks have been fitted.

If both part No's can be supplied  I can match up to what is on the label  of mine

TIA ,     AL

 :y

Omega Part Number Retail Price Normal Trade Trade Club
Shock absorbers, rear (single)
Saloon with self-levelling suspension 72119084 £116.00 £98.64 £73.98

 
 
Estate with self-levelling suspensiont]72119085 £116.00 £98.64 £73.98

 

Thanks Andy

[Big_Al]

Hi everyone,

Was given the part no's by Andy B (Thanks Andy)   but

They do not correspond to what is on the labels of my shocks.

being a PC dim-wit I can't post pictures on here

But below is how the labels read:

                                                    [size=16]GM    [size=16]22245839

                                        9127829[/size]

                                        368135153

                                    13  07  09   08 17 .51[/size]

If anyone can help to find the part No. from this i would be grateful'

Could the part no. be somewhere else on the damper? although I have had a very good look . there are no other labels & can't see anything stamped.

Regards Al

[Andy B]

GM have a habit of changing their part numbers.  :-/
andyc would be the best man to phone & ask next week when he's in work. 

[Andy H]

I thought the level on a car with self levelling suspension was controlled by the level sensor :-/

The way I see it the wrong shock absorbers might cause a harsher or softer ride but wouldn't change the ride height.

[Entwood]

I thought the level on a car with self levelling suspension was controlled by the level sensor :-/

The way I see it the wrong shock absorbers might cause a harsher or softer ride but wouldn't change the ride height.

The level sensor operates an air pump which inflates (or deflates) a bellows built into the damper to either extend or retract the overall length. That is how the ride height is controlled.

No bellows - no self levelling .. 

[Andy H]

I thought the level on a car with self levelling suspension was controlled by the level sensor :-/

The way I see it the wrong shock absorbers might cause a harsher or softer ride but wouldn't change the ride height.

The level sensor operates an air pump which inflates (or deflates) a bellows built into the damper to either extend or retract the overall length. That is how the ride height is controlled.

No bellows - no self levelling .. 

I fitted new self levelling dampers to my Elite last weekend (purchased from andyc  ) so I am familiar with how they work.

My thought was that the OP may not have considered that the sensor (& air pump) will work to maintain the ride height regardless of what dampers are fitted.

[amba]

Jury is still out if these shocks are infact self levelling.

[Big_Al]

I thought the level on a car with self levelling suspension was controlled by the level sensor :-/

The way I see it the wrong shock absorbers might cause a harsher or softer ride but wouldn't change the ride height.

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I see it that way too.   But am trying to find out why the car is sitting high at the back.

Looking at all angles , so looking at what the difference is between the two types of self levelling shocks & the possibility that estate shocks are fitted in case to my saloon.  Anyone know what the difference is?

tomorrow am going to release the bottom shock bolts & see what height the car sits on springs only.  present height is 660mm front & 690mm rear.

[Andy H]

Jury is still out if these shocks are infact self levelling.

OK. To avoid confusion.

Essex Big Al. Can you confirm that you have a plastic pipe going to the top of each damper?

[Big_Al]

Jury is still out if these shocks are infact self levelling.

OK. To avoid confusion.http://images.omegaowners.com/forum/yabbfiles250/Templates/Forum/default/highlight.gif

Essex Big Al. Can you confirm that you have a plastic pipe going to the top of each damper?

Definatley self levelling   Small plastic pipe to each one held on by a small wire clip. Rubber "bellows" section in middle of each one.

Have already done the raise & lower test with lever detatched. Car raises up & down as switch is manually operated. Compressor at front under  wheelarch starts as required. 

[Big_Al]

I thought the level on a car with self levelling suspension was controlled by the level sensor :-/

The way I see it the wrong shock absorbers might cause a harsher or softer ride but wouldn't change the ride height.

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I see it that way too.   But am trying to find out why the car is sitting high at the back.

Looking at all angles , so looking at what the difference is between the two types of self levelling shocks & the possibility that estate shocks are fitted in case to my saloon.  Anyone know what the difference is?

tomorrow am going to release the bottom shock bolts & see what height the car sits on springs only.  present height is 660mm front & 690mm rear.[/quote]



 So carrying on from yesterday, released shocks from bottom bolt on both sides , gave back of car a good bounce about then measured.
The car sits even higher but without the shocks connected .

rear n/s is 705mm    O/s  715mm      Crazy ! !

having a re-think on this now.

[Entwood]

Intriguing !!!

Don't know if this helps or hinders ...  2001 3.2 Elite Saloon. New rear shockers 7000 miles ago. Engine running, self levelling pump "finished" its business ...

Measured at the wheel arch vertically through the centre of the wheel.

F N/S = 675 mm
F O/S = 665 mm
R N/S = 675 mm
R O/S = 685 mm

Now those figures look very like your original figures ...... so what makes you think it's sitting "high" ??


 

[Big_Al]

660mm at front which seems to be LSC  height

Where as std elite is 675 at front  (I think)

Should the front & back not the same then ?

It just looks ugly compared to the front. gap between the tyre top & the wheel arch.

Car is on 17 VX std alloys   & 235 x 45 x 17 tyres

What we need is someone to measure an MV6 to see what they sit at  all round & compare to Elite sizes

Anyone handy with a tape