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trikerdude2009

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paperclip test code 19
« on: 15 April 2011, 15:09:32 »
hi im hoping somone can help i curently have an omega mv6 3.0 petrol automatic now i have done the paper clip test after replacing the plugs ht leads and dizzy pack and have now replaced the crankshaft sensor i have cheked over everything i can find and everything looks ok. now it is still showing fault code 19 on the paperclip test and the car is splutering and judering and vibrating like you wouldnt belive and has no real power it sounds like its missfiring iv even re routed the crank sensor wire so it dousnt sit anywhere near the exhaust but if anything the dam thing is worse not better can anyone advise please as im borderline of scraping the dam thing as im sick of working on it now thanks >:(
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Re: paperclip test code 19
« Reply #1 on: 15 April 2011, 15:15:46 »
Did the replacement come from VX or is it one of the cheapie egay specials?
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Re: paperclip test code 19
« Reply #2 on: 15 April 2011, 16:03:48 »
Are you sure you got the plug leads the right way around ;)
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Re: paperclip test code 19
« Reply #3 on: 15 April 2011, 16:08:25 »
I agree with pete,double check leads are in correct order and also check around spark plugs for oil or water ingress

edit -forget the last bit ,you have changed the plugs so all should be ok there
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Re: paperclip test code 19
« Reply #4 on: 16 April 2011, 09:39:00 »
all the parts are original Bosch parts leads are all correct i did find oil round the plugs when i removed them put it down to rocker cover gasket tightened it up and now seems to have stoped the oil problem for now at least but cant find this fault is code 19 for anything other than the crank sensor or could it be faulty despite being brand new or could it be fitted incorectly thanks for any advice you can give
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Re: paperclip test code 19
« Reply #5 on: 16 April 2011, 09:42:03 »
You need to do your cam cover gaskets properly. That means GM parts, and a 8Nm torque wrench (no, its not possible to guess that one).

19, thats an awkward one. 99% of the time, its a crappy sensor, either due to age, or being pattern. I'd always recommend genuine again for that part. However, I know Lazydocker can't clear his either.

Is the cam timing correct? Is the crank sensor wiring in good nick?
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Re: paperclip test code 19
« Reply #6 on: 16 April 2011, 09:43:09 »
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all the parts are original Bosch parts leads are all correct i did find oil round the plugs when i removed them put it down to rocker cover gasket tightened it up and now seems to have stoped the oil problem for now at least but cant find this fault is code 19 for anything other than the crank sensor or could it be faulty despite being brand new or could it be fitted incorectly thanks for any advice you can give

Heading for major trouble there ... cam cover bolts should be NO MORE THAN 8 Nm .... if they were leaking . they need replacing ... properly ..

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Re: paperclip test code 19
« Reply #7 on: 16 April 2011, 09:51:17 »
i Havent touched the cam timing and it did run fine it all started when it would just cut out for no reason then after a few weeks of that and even the green flag looking at it and couldnt find anything wrong it started miss firing now it sounds so bad even my 4 year old daughter was encouraging it to get us home lol   
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Re: paperclip test code 19
« Reply #8 on: 16 April 2011, 09:54:07 »
i Havent touched the cam timing and it did run fine it all started when it would just cut out for no reason then after a few weeks of that and even the green flag looking at it and couldnt find anything wrong it started miss firing now it sounds so bad even my 4 year old daughter was encouraging it to get us home lol   
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Re: paperclip test code 19
« Reply #9 on: 16 April 2011, 09:54:08 »
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i Havent touched the cam timing and it did run fine it all started when it would just cut out for no reason then after a few weeks of that and even the green flag looking at it and couldnt find anything wrong it started miss firing now it sounds so bad even my 4 year old daughter was encouraging it to get us home lol   
OK, the cut out does sound like crank sensor.

Might be worth getting the ecu codes cleared to see if it comes back. I have a feeling the symptoms and the code are unrelated.
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Re: paperclip test code 19
« Reply #10 on: 16 April 2011, 09:54:47 »
Are you anywhere near me, trikerdude, I'll happily clear the ecus for free
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Re: paperclip test code 19
« Reply #11 on: 16 April 2011, 12:01:36 »
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You need to do your cam cover gaskets properly. That means GM parts, and a 8Nm torque wrench (no, its not possible to guess that one).

19, thats an awkward one. 99% of the time, its a crappy sensor, either due to age, or being pattern. I'd always recommend genuine again for that part. However, I know Lazydocker can't clear his either.

Is the cam timing correct? Is the crank sensor wiring in good nick?

Not sure if it's back since the last clear down... I haven't checked ::) ::)

However, although I keep getting a code 19 showing I'm getting no symptoms whatsoever and have the spare just in case :y :y
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Re: paperclip test code 19
« Reply #12 on: 17 April 2011, 14:47:20 »
im in Leicester
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Re: paperclip test code 19
« Reply #13 on: 18 April 2011, 18:02:22 »
so what are you saying just cause its showing code 19 (crank sensor ) dousent neseseraly mean thats what the fault is if thats the case how on earth are you ever supposed to fix these dam things. how the fud do any of you manege to fix these things is beond me being a mechanic is not even part of it you need to be a flipin nasa engineer bring back basic cars without all these sensors lol
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