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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
« Reply #45 on: 09 May 2011, 11:00:23 »
My guess is that if substantial damage was done you wouldn't have a problem with it running rough... it wouldn't run at all!  Don't use it until you've done the timing properly using a kit.  Buying (£65???) is a bit steep for something you're not going to use so much; agreed.  Find Autovaux online and hire from them.
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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
« Reply #46 on: 09 May 2011, 11:09:11 »
...duh!  Sorry, I missed the argument on P2 & 3 ::)
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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
« Reply #47 on: 09 May 2011, 22:50:40 »
Right, I got home tonight and did the pedal trick (thanks to all for the helpful threads and advice). It was showing code 0100. I proceeded to strip down to the cambelt again and discovered that once I had put the crank lock on, three and four bank were spot on and two was out maybe 1 tooth and number one was out a tooth and a half. I reset and fitted correct locks this time!!!

Haven't finished putting it back together yet because I lost light, but I hope I have been lucky and have learnt my lesson.

Would the code in your opinion point to the timing being out?
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« Reply #48 on: 09 May 2011, 23:00:17 »
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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
« Reply #49 on: 09 May 2011, 23:03:08 »
just shows you that without the proper kit the cams cannot be set correctly. been there done that & thanks to DLK for putting it all right a couple of years ago. :y
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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
« Reply #50 on: 10 May 2011, 07:39:36 »
Yup, thats a code for the MAF.

what we dont know, is if it was there before, or whether youve accidently missed the connection, or its not made properly, so double check that 1st.

the 2.6 and 3.2 MAF's are the least reliable of the bunch, so maybe time for a new one.

Personally I would buy a Bosch, from ebay ,or vauxhall parts world, wherever has a good price at the time.
My advice would also be to avoid the cheap chinese copies, often just a resistor to fool the ecu.


Well done on sorting the timing, doesnt sound enough to cause a mechanical problem, but sure as hell wouldnt run well / economically / powerfully, you will prob get the cost back on that kit in saved fuel  :y
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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
« Reply #51 on: 10 May 2011, 08:35:18 »
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Yup, thats a code for the MAF.

what we dont know, is if it was there before, or whether youve accidently missed the connection, or its not made properly, so double check that 1st.

the 2.6 and 3.2 MAF's are the least reliable of the bunch, so maybe time for a new one.

Personally I would buy a Bosch, from ebay ,or vauxhall parts world, wherever has a good price at the time.
My advice would also be to avoid the cheap chinese copies, often just a resistor to fool the ecu.

Well done on sorting the timing, doesnt sound enough to cause a mechanical problem, but sure as hell wouldnt run well / economically / powerfully, you will prob get the cost back on that kit in saved fuel  :y

No there not, a resistor would do nowt and the ECU would spot it straight away.  :y
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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
« Reply #52 on: 10 May 2011, 08:41:54 »
fair enough, certainly heard they are not to be recommended.
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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
« Reply #53 on: 10 May 2011, 10:10:16 »
entertaining thread. amaznig the amount of d*** measuring that goes on, irrelvant to the OP :-)
Hoping you got it sorted DTC, let us know when you run it up
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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
« Reply #54 on: 10 May 2011, 14:00:54 »
Before condemning maf, see how it runs after it's timed - might be the rough running erroneously flagged this code

1.5 teeth, you should have got away with it, thankfully :)
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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
« Reply #55 on: 10 May 2011, 15:06:13 »
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Before condemning maf, see how it runs after it's timed - might be the rough running erroneously flagged this code

1.5 teeth, you should have got away with it, thankfully :)

Agreed, the valve timing will be out such that the airflow will be affected (and hence the measured airflow will be less than expected by the ECU given the throttle position and revs)
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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
« Reply #56 on: 10 May 2011, 18:40:39 »
Wow, i'm glad i got Darth to do mine. No worries for 40.000/4 years  :y :y . Runs perfect :y
Next one due at 188k
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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
« Reply #57 on: 16 May 2011, 08:19:42 »
Sorry for the late update guys - I was away for the weekend. Well I ran the car up and phew it was fine! Apart from now i can't get rid of the spanner light on the dash!

If anyone reading this is even considering doing the timing belt without the correct locking kit - seriously don't!!! I was lucky this time.
Locate the kit by whatever means and follow the DVD and you can't go wrong.

Thanks to all who contributed for the kind advice.
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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
« Reply #58 on: 16 May 2011, 08:23:19 »
Glad your finally sorted and the car is fine(ish)  :y

Whats the fault code?  Still the MAF one?

How many miles / starts have you had since sorting the belt?
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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
« Reply #59 on: 16 May 2011, 09:17:32 »
Great to see that update. 8-) :y
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