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Re: Change date - mini lift to facelift?
« Reply #15 on: 20 January 2008, 17:06:55 »
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Will make further enquiries in the morning...   ;)

 :-? Curiouser & curiouser .......  :-?
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Re: Change date - mini lift to facelift?
« Reply #16 on: 20 January 2008, 17:08:39 »
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Even if it were an import it should be impossible to register it on a plate that makes it appear newer than it is.......  

Agreed, which was the reason for the introduction of 'Q' marks.
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Re: Change date - mini lift to facelift?
« Reply #17 on: 20 January 2008, 17:14:41 »
Its probably been sat around a dealers for a while.  :y
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Re: Change date - mini lift to facelift?
« Reply #18 on: 20 January 2008, 17:20:30 »
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Its probably been sat around a dealers for a while.  :y

Whats is the mileage ::)
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Re: Change date - mini lift to facelift?
« Reply #19 on: 20 January 2008, 17:38:44 »
reasonable........  ;)
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Re: Change date - mini lift to facelift?
« Reply #20 on: 20 January 2008, 18:07:05 »
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reasonable........  ;)


I know the very one Mr  ;)

Couldnt find anything untoward myself when i checked.....
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Re: Change date - mini lift to facelift?
« Reply #21 on: 20 January 2008, 18:24:48 »
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...Latest pre-facelift i have seen is W plate...

Yep - I'll go with that. Mine is 2001 Y-reg and by then there were definitely no new minifacelifts around...
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Re: Change date - mini lift to facelift?
« Reply #22 on: 20 January 2008, 20:04:42 »
Pre mini facelift - MY94 - MY97
mini facelift - MY98 - MY99
Facelift - MY00 - MY03
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Re: Change date - mini lift to facelift?
« Reply #23 on: 20 January 2008, 20:16:44 »
The only thing i can think of apart from its been sat unregistered for a few years.......is and i know this used to go on.......but unsure when/if the loophole was closed.....

It was bought in Germany (tho i would have thought it would have been badged as Opel) by armed services personal......driven about in Germany for a few years, then bought into the UK and re-registered as new

As said i know this used to go on........but i thought this loophole/fiddle had been stopped  :-/
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Re: Change date - mini lift to facelift?
« Reply #24 on: 20 January 2008, 23:59:16 »
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Definately a minilift Mike.  Same as mine but an estate.

Did a check on the DVLA site and found...

Date of Liability  01 09 2007  
Date of First Registration  24 03 2003  
Year of Manufacture  1999  


So, tax expired last year, DoFR matches plate, but it shows as 4 years old when registered?  The export marker shows as 'not applicable' but nothing to show as an import.....  

Will make further enquiries in the morning...   ;)

do you recall me raising the same point a good while back in relation to a 1999 BMW 3 series (older shape) that was registered (legally according to DVLA) on an 02 registration plate?
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Re: Change date - mini lift to facelift?
« Reply #25 on: 21 January 2008, 00:09:14 »
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Definately a minilift Mike.  Same as mine but an estate.

Did a check on the DVLA site and found...

Date of Liability  01 09 2007  
Date of First Registration  24 03 2003  
Year of Manufacture  1999  


So, tax expired last year, DoFR matches plate, but it shows as 4 years old when registered?  The export marker shows as 'not applicable' but nothing to show as an import.....  

Will make further enquiries in the morning...   ;)

do you recall me raising the same point a good while back in relation to a 1999 BMW 3 series (older shape) that was registered (legally according to DVLA) on an 02 registration plate?

To be honest, at the moment, I dont remember!  May get my second wind after breakfast and a wee hint though!   ;D
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Re: Change date - mini lift to facelift?
« Reply #26 on: 21 January 2008, 00:16:51 »
FOUND IT!!

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here's a question that i'd love to know the answer to!!

new number plate format makes it easier to know what year a car is

51 - sept 01-end of feb 02
02 - march 02 - end of aug 02
52 - sept 02-end of feb 03
03 - march 03 - end of aug 03

and so on

so why would a 1999 BMW have an 02 plate on it... AND be officially registered under THAT plate as an actuall 1999 BMW??

I can only concurr with the posts above.  The vehicle must presumably have been a leftover in a garage, unregistered, then recently registered with all the required paperwork in place.

Link to DVLA for paperwork requirements for imports here.

To check for vehicle liability details and date of first registration etc, check here but the site does time out.  Can be re-reached via the online taxation link.

HtH

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Re: Change date - mini lift to facelift?
« Reply #27 on: 21 January 2008, 01:10:47 »
Brucie, going back to the original post, there definately seems to be something "amiss" with this car.

My car is a "W" reg Omega, and there were only VERY few minifacelifts left on a W reg. By X reg, the only Omega's were facelifts.

EIther it's been sat brand new for 10 years since about 1998, or there is something potentially shady about it?

I would imagine you are, of course, better positioned and more knowledgable about such things in general - but going by my omega knowledge, to me, something doesn't ring right at all..

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Re: Change date - mini lift to facelift?
« Reply #28 on: 21 January 2008, 09:46:44 »
If it was ex military, MOD etc. then the registration would have gone on the "first used" date.

I have a Scout minibus that is ex MOD and it is a '98 year.  Because the MOD declared it as first used in '94, it wears a M plate.
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Re: Change date - mini lift to facelift?
« Reply #29 on: 21 January 2008, 10:00:19 »
True. Could be that someone (Police / Military?) bought a batch of Omegas and this one never got used for some reason. It was then registered when sold off and the owner was able to declare it new.

As I say, it all depends how it's been stored (field / dry warehouse), whether it's had parts nicked from it or it's been kept complete, etc..

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