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[philsteward]

Right then, done plenty of searching around on this forum and on the rest of the web but have now run out of ideas.

I have a Vauxhall locking wheel nut (flower type I think) which was clearly put on by supermans bigger and stronger brother. I eventually got the 4 other normal bolts out (using a 6foot scaffold pole!) but the locking wheel nut key is now knackered.

I have taken the car to 3 different garages where they have tried knocking hexagonal sockets on, bi-hex  sockets, the splined bolt removers, threaded locking wheel nut removal tools, and even welding a nut on. I still have the remains of the locking wheel nut on!

Any more ideas? only thing I can think of is driling it off, but think that will take ages.

Would like to finsh by saying they are a crap design of locking wheel nut...but clearly very good!

[Jimbob]

drill sounds like your only option.

Ive done it, and its not fun.

[HockeyDave55]

I had the same problem a while ago on a ford....
Bashed a 12 pointed socket on, I think it was a 15mm or 16mm???
And a club hammer!!!!! Did the trick though... Good luck...

[Tony H]

Right then, done plenty of searching around on this forum and on the rest of the web but have now run out of ideas.

I have a Vauxhall locking wheel nut (flower type I think) which was clearly put on by supermans bigger and stronger brother. I eventually got the 4 other normal bolts out (using a 6foot scaffold pole!) but the locking wheel nut key is now knackered.

I have taken the car to 3 different garages where they have tried knocking hexagonal sockets on, bi-hex  sockets, the splined bolt removers, threaded locking wheel nut removal tools, and even welding a nut on. I still have the remains of the locking wheel nut on!

Any more ideas? only thing I can think of is driling it off, but think that will take ages.

Would like to finsh by saying they are a crap design of locking wheel nut...but clearly very good!

There o.k. if the monkey at the tyre centre knew what a torque wrench was and whats more knew how to use it, Instead of taking the lazy route and using a windy gun.
Have you removed the coller from around the nut before whacking an under sized socket on it?

[philsteward]

Yep, got a small chisel on that straight away. Now a 16mm socket fits on but spins off when you try and undo, because it is just too tight.

[51M0N]

I had exactly the same problem not long ago with one of them. I took it to my mate whos built like a house and he hammered a bihex socket and and gave it some with a strongarm.

[philsteward]

My problem is getting a socket on tight enough. I can twist it off with a 24inch breaker bar.

If I drill it, I am worried I won't be able to get the threaded bit out. Anyone know how much thread I will be left with sticking out?

[Andy H]

Once you have drilled through the head it will snap off leaving a length of thread equal to the thickness of the wheel to get a grip on.

It will unscrew easily without any tension on it.

[Andy H]

Have you got the other 4 bolts in place and done up tight?

My theory is that if you loosen the other bolts first it puts all the load on the locking bolt and makes it more difficult to undo :-/

[philsteward]

Tried all different ways. Even tried loosening the other 4 and bumping u a curb to see if it will shock it. Also tried tightening them super tight to take some of the load off.

The bolt has been done up so tight, don't see how I will get it out. Thought is to weld a nut on and do it that way.

Thoguht I would take this opportunity to say thanks for all the help!

[tango]

Ok try this
Smack a 16 or 17 mm socket on to it
One that goes on really nice and tight
Then do not use a ratchet
Then use a t bar and extended with a pipe like think if you wish
Now get a freind who can apply some pressure on to it as if he was gonna open it but not to much to slip the socket off
While he'd doin that get a heavy club hammer and hammer the socket with the t bar connected as hard as you can
If the first hit doesn't work the second or third will defo do the job

[philsteward]

Have sort of tried that, but not since all the garages have tried, so was getting a poor grip on nut. Will try it again tomorrow with a T-bar as you suggest.

Fingers crossed!

[richdrury]

I've delt with this several times at work, you will need to drill centrally down the stud several times, each time increasing the size of the hole till the bolt head is removed, remove the rim and the remaining threads should come out by hand believe it or not.

Good quality drill bits and a bench grinder for sharpening are a must, and use the drill on a slow speed setting for better cutting

[philsteward]

That shall be my back up! Dreading the drilling, but at least I am not in a rush!

And now you have said it, it makes sense that the remains would cone out easily as it is the shoulder of the nut which is holding the nut fast!

Out of interest, what drill bits would you recommend?

[tango]

It should work  mate as long as you hit it hard enough
I had to remove four once in the same manner after all other attempts failed