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[YZ250]

It depends, mine are totally shot & under heavy braking the car wonders about. If they are like jelly it could be failed.

I've just asked WIM if they are able to fit Bushes on site, as I plan to fit a pair of "poly" bushes which make the front end a lot stiffer.

I'll let you know what they say 

Do you have any DIY car tools? Jack? Big crowbar? If you can, jack the car up, or park it on a pavement, underneath the car where the wishbone meets the chassis, put big screw driver/crowbar in there, wiggle it, see how much the bush/wishbone moves, there should only be a slight movement.

This is the route I'm taking although I've got to re-bush the wishbone subframe bushes as well due to splitting. I'm using GM bushes for rear wishbone bushes and 'hopefully' press them in to my existing wishbones using a 20 ton snap-on press. Fingers crossed.  :-/ 

I believe Chrisgixer raised the question of WIM doing poly's in the WIM forum. They said time can outweigh cost but still be interesting to see their reply. 

Regards
Alan

[Nick W]

This is the route I'm taking although I've got to re-bush the wishbone subframe bushes as well due to splitting. I'm using GM bushes for rear wishbone bushes and 'hopefully' press them in to my existing wishbones using a 20 ton snap-on press. Fingers crossed.  :-/ 

I did mine in a cheap 10 ton press with no issues whatsoever. As usual with a press, it was harder finding some spacers and holding the assembly together whilst pumping the handle.
If you use a large enough tool, you might be able to press the front bushes out, rather than use butchery.

[YZ250]

This is the route I'm taking although I've got to re-bush the wishbone subframe bushes as well due to splitting. I'm using GM bushes for rear wishbone bushes and 'hopefully' press them in to my existing wishbones using a 20 ton snap-on press. Fingers crossed.  :-/ 

I did mine in a cheap 10 ton press with no issues whatsoever. As usual with a press, it was harder finding some spacers and holding the assembly together whilst pumping the handle.
If you use a large enough tool, you might be able to press the front bushes out, rather than use butchery.

Good to hear that.    Chose this route after some varying reports on Lemforder and it's a cheaper option than GM's £228 + vat each if all goes well.

[feeutfo]

I'm on a poor connection, so haven't read the complete thread.
But, if your rearward vertical bush is fine, then there is no need to remove the wishbone to fit polly. They are only available for the front horizontal bush anyway. Last I heard.

Given that you won't get a press under the car, undo the bolt, pull wb down, cut out bush, push new polly in, do the bolt back up wheels in air, job done!

[Alex W]

ok guys- update.
just had alook through the old mot cetificates (only bought the car 4 days ago) and last year (oct 2010) it failed for having an imcomplete offside coil spring and also

'nearside front lower suspension arm rubber bush deteriated resulting in excessive movement'

looking through the reciepts the coil has been replced and the arm was also replaced.

aloso looking through the reciepts (mountains of reciepts came with the car)  in june thuis year the car had a new lower arm (dosent say which side but presumebly it must have been the o/s if the n/s was done last year?)

2 days after the mot failure last year it passed so im thinking, also bearing in mind that another arm was replaced this year, and this is just a hunch, that they have changed the arms and springs and not done the camber afterwards? there is a receiept for tracking done in june this year but as ive read on this forum, that does nowt on a omega. 

As an Omega owner you will soon become familiar with the practice of building a big mountain of receipts.

Just make sure you join Autobahn Stormers to get your trade club discount card.

[mark.adams]

Are these any good???
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[Nick W]

I'm on a poor connection, so haven't read the complete thread.
But, if your rearward vertical bush is fine, then there is no need to remove the wishbone to fit polly. They are only available for the front horizontal bush anyway. Last I heard.

Given that you won't get a press under the car, undo the bolt, pull wb down, cut out bush, push new polly in, do the bolt back up wheels in air, job done!

Considering what a pain in the arse it is to 'cut out bush', and that removing the wishbone is just two more bolts, I'd remove it and operate on the bush in comfort, with the wishbone firmly clamped in the vice.

Why make things more difficult than is necessary?

[Jimbob]

I'm on a poor connection, so haven't read the complete thread.
But, if your rearward vertical bush is fine, then there is no need to remove the wishbone to fit polly. They are only available for the front horizontal bush anyway. Last I heard.

Given that you won't get a press under the car, undo the bolt, pull wb down, cut out bush, push new polly in, do the bolt back up wheels in air, job done!

Considering what a pain in the arse it is to 'cut out bush', and that removing the wishbone is just two more bolts, I'd remove it and operate on the bush in comfort, with the wishbone firmly clamped in the vice.

Why make things more difficult than is necessary?

its easy under the car tbh, and you dont mess up the geometry with just 1 bolt, assuming ok to start with 

[feeutfo]

I'm on a poor connection, so haven't read the complete thread.
But, if your rearward vertical bush is fine, then there is no need to remove the wishbone to fit polly. They are only available for the front horizontal bush anyway. Last I heard.

Given that you won't get a press under the car, undo the bolt, pull wb down, cut out bush, push new polly in, do the bolt back up wheels in air, job done!

Considering what a pain in the arse it is to 'cut out bush', and that removing the wishbone is just two more bolts, I'd remove it and operate on the bush in comfort, with the wishbone firmly clamped in the vice.

Why make things more difficult than is necessary?

Geometry preserved as much as possible... And trust me,if it was as simple as "just two more bolts" then I would agree fully.... It isn't.

Leave the wishbone on the car!  Hole cutter and chop saw being weapons of choice. Or whatever you have to hand.

[feeutfo]

I'm on a poor connection, so haven't read the complete thread.
But, if your rearward vertical bush is fine, then there is no need to remove the wishbone to fit polly. They are only available for the front horizontal bush anyway. Last I heard.

Given that you won't get a press under the car, undo the bolt, pull wb down, cut out bush, push new polly in, do the bolt back up wheels in air, job done!

Considering what a pain in the arse it is to 'cut out bush', and that removing the wishbone is just two more bolts, I'd remove it and operate on the bush in comfort, with the wishbone firmly clamped in the vice.

Why make things more difficult than is necessary?

Geometry preserved as much as possible... And trust me,if it was as simple as "just two more bolts" then I would agree fully.... It isn't.

Leave the wishbone on the car!  Hole cutter and chop saw being weapons of choice. Or whatever you have to hand.

... And clearly, you've never tried to press a front bush out. Think it through carefully. The angle of the wishbone itself so close to the projected line it has to come out, means a very wide press is needed to get on it,and that's if you can find something to support the circumference of the outside void, which you won't because the wishbone itself is in the way. You'll end up cutting it out anyway.

Although having the correct drifts to hand will help. But there's only one person I know who has those.

[YZ250]

Chris,
It's probably my fault that this thread has gone slightly off track. I responded to Tunnie's reply by stating that I was fitting poly's while my wishbones are off due to the REAR bush being shot. I will be pressing new GM rear bushes in and will CUT out the front bush while they are off and fit poly's. The company I work for has ample equipment for this job. 

I realise that you came in halfway through the thread but I had already stated that my REAR bushes need replacing so the wishbones are coming off anyway to which Nick W replied. As poly's were mentioned, the thread has got side tracked in that direction.
No offence intended in this reply. On the contrary actually, I was hoping to discuss options with you at the next convenient meet if that's OK. Hope that clears up why the thread went off course. 

Regards
Alan

[cem_devecioglu]

I'm not a mechanic.. but an engineer..

and while you are forcing/cutting the bushes what guarantees that you dont damage/harm other parts around.. there is one proper way (except butchery), you have to use a hydraulic press for both in and out operations..

besides, who guarantees that the bush pressed inside is fit properly and wont flip out under some urgent brake conditions..

I can understand the reasons why its done like that but seriously those wishbones never cost that much to produce .. and its they guilt they force people for back roads..

[feeutfo]

As Allan says the rear bush is also shot(sorry,should have re read before my last posts now I have wifi connection) then yes the wb has to come off, obviously.

It is far easier to press a front oe bush in, than press an old one out ime. And easier still to cut the old one out. Weather on the car or off it. Cutting the outer metal ring of  the old bush is the critical part, and obviously stopping short of cutting the wishbone is key. Cut as deap as you dare then chisel and hammer to force the bush outer in on itself while tearing the remainder of the hack saw cut.

There is a perfectly clear guide posted by razzo if you care to look...?  :-?

AA had his pollys fitted in a field at Newent in about an hour. It's not difficult or dangerous in any way...(wtf?  :-? ) although cutting by hand with a hack saw is extremely tedious, granted.

[cem_devecioglu]

As Allan says the rear bush is also shot(sorry,should have re read before my last posts now I have wifi connection) then yes the wb has to come off, obviously.

It is far easier to press a front oe bush in, than press an old one out ime. And easier still to cut the old one out. Weather on the car or off it. Cutting the outer metal ring of  the old bush is the critical part, and obviously stopping short of cutting the wishbone is key. Cut as deap as you dare then chisel and hammer to force the bush outer in on itself while tearing the remainder of the hack saw cut.

There is a perfectly clear guide posted by razzo if you care to look...?  :-?

AA had his pollys fitted in a field at Newent in about an hour. It's not difficult or dangerous in any way...(wtf?  :-? ) although cutting by hand with a hack saw is extremely tedious, granted.

Chris, you can do as you wish, but I dont think a garage who works like that can take a quality certificate

[feeutfo]

As Allan says the rear bush is also shot(sorry,should have re read before my last posts now I have wifi connection) then yes the wb has to come off, obviously.

It is far easier to press a front oe bush in, than press an old one out ime. And easier still to cut the old one out. Weather on the car or off it. Cutting the outer metal ring of  the old bush is the critical part, and obviously stopping short of cutting the wishbone is key. Cut as deap as you dare then chisel and hammer to force the bush outer in on itself while tearing the remainder of the hack saw cut.

There is a perfectly clear guide posted by razzo if you care to look...?  :-?

AA had his pollys fitted in a field at Newent in about an hour. It's not difficult or dangerous in any way...(wtf?  :-? ) although cutting by hand with a hack saw is extremely tedious, granted.

Chris, you can do as you wish, but I dont think a garage who works like that can take a quality certificate

Why not? So they can charge 4 times as long ? 
It is the recommended way, ask master. And when you "press out" a front bush please post a video. I will be most interested in your first attempt