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[pscocoa]

turns out tracking has gone massively out - they cannot think why unless steering box is giving a problem - all set up - will just have to recheck position  in a month.

[feeutfo]

Forgive me , why go to WIM before tyres ?

Do they need to see the bad, unequal wear to assist with the individual set up for your car ?

Planning a trip soon and I need new tyres all round.

Thanks

Because if the set up is off enough it will ware the brand new tyres as well, and they will forever show that wear.
If fitting new suspension either lowered or replacement it's worth leaving the old tyres on for a month if possible to allow the suspension to settle or sag in. Springs spend their life on the shelf and then find they have to hold up 1700kg of omega. They will take a while to settle to their true ride hight. Wim recommend a full geo check every year iirc due to normal sag anyway.

Should add, if lowering it's also worth attempting the correct settings via methods covered in the guides as best you can.

Once it's all settled in, set up and your happy, then fit new tyres knowing the set up won't wear them unevenly and cause issue such as those pictured, which can easily lead to blow out if not spotted.

Obviously in the op's case he willhave to suffer any wear while driving to Wim.

[feeutfo]

Forgive me , why go to WIM before tyres ?

Do they need to see the bad, unequal wear to assist with the individual set up for your car ?

Planning a trip soon and I need new tyres all round.

Thanks

Because if the set up is off enough it will ware the brand new tyres as well, and they will forever show that wear.
If fitting new suspension either lowered or replacement it's worth leaving the old tyres on for a month if possible to allow the suspension to settle or sag in. Springs spend their life on the shelf and then find they have to hold up 1700kg of omega. They will take a while to settle to their true ride hight. Wim recommend a full geo check every year iirc due to normal sag anyway.

Should add, if lowering it's also worth attempting the correct settings via methods covered in the guides as best you can.

Once it's all settled in, set up and your happy, then fit new tyres knowing the set up won't wear them unevenly and cause issue such as those pictured, which can easily lead to blow out if not spotted.

Obviously in the op's case he willhave to suffer any wear while driving to Wim.

...also, as you say. Wim will adjust the base setting of 1.10 for stock omega suspension if they see tyre wear that warrants it. Sports suspension gets a more aggressive 1.20 which on mine shows outside edge wear as well. So I suspect they may up it to 1.30 or even to irmschers recommended 1.40.

However I have rotated the front tyres to the back to even up the wear. So that will confuse them. 

[Kevin Wood]

turns out tracking has gone massively out - they cannot think why unless steering box is giving a problem - all set up - will just have to recheck position  in a month.

If by tracking they mean toe and only toe, I would get that to Wheels In Motion for a proper setup. That wear is a result of excessive camber, IMHO.

Have they given you a printout of the before-and-after suspension settings?

[feeutfo]

turns out tracking has gone massively out - they cannot think why unless steering box is giving a problem - all set up - will just have to recheck position  in a month.

If by tracking they mean toe and only toe, I would get that to Wheels In Motion for a proper setup. That wear is a result of excessive camber, IMHO.

Have they given you a printout of the before-and-after suspension settings?

Dealers do not have facility to check camber. So will blame toe/tracking by default as the know no better. You have a camber issue as Kev says.

I don't suppose, without reading the whole thread again, that they checked wishbone bushes at all?

[pscocoa]

turns out tracking has gone massively out - they cannot think why unless steering box is giving a problem - all set up - will just have to recheck position  in a month.

If by tracking they mean toe and only toe, I would get that to Wheels In Motion for a proper setup. That wear is a result of excessive camber, IMHO.

Have they given you a printout of the before-and-after suspension settings?

Will get car and print out tomorrow.

[pscocoa]

turns out tracking has gone massively out - they cannot think why unless steering box is giving a problem - all set up - will just have to recheck position  in a month.

If by tracking they mean toe and only toe, I would get that to Wheels In Motion for a proper setup. That wear is a result of excessive camber, IMHO.

Have they given you a printout of the before-and-after suspension settings?

Dealers do not have facility to check camber. So will blame toe/tracking by default as the know no better. You have a camber issue as Kev says.

I don't suppose, without reading the whole thread again, that they checked wishbone bushes at all?

Not really got the option to put old tyres back as one has slow puncture and one of tyres regarded as lethal.

Will just bite the bullet on this and think about WIM visit.

Do you have a view on the steering box theory just assuming WIM were to confirm set up ok?

Wishbones etc checked out and ruled out as causing a problem of this severity. All this has happened in 4000 miles - potholes???

[feeutfo]

turns out tracking has gone massively out - they cannot think why unless steering box is giving a problem - all set up - will just have to recheck position  in a month.

If by tracking they mean toe and only toe, I would get that to Wheels In Motion for a proper setup. That wear is a result of excessive camber, IMHO.

Have they given you a printout of the before-and-after suspension settings?

Dealers do not have facility to check camber. So will blame toe/tracking by default as the know no better. You have a camber issue as Kev says.

I don't suppose, without reading the whole thread again, that they checked wishbone bushes at all?

Not really got the option to put old tyres back as one has slow puncture and one of tyres regarded as lethal.

Will just bite the bullet on this and think about WIM visit.

Do you have a view on the steering box theory just assuming WIM were to confirm set up ok?

Wishbones etc checked out and ruled out as causing a problem of this severity. All this has happened in 4000 miles - potholes???

Steering box itself won't cause that. However play in the connecting rods to it might. Easily spotted. Where the toe adjusters tight?

Still think it's camber though.

[pscocoa]

Thanks Chris - I will heed this advice on camber. Will ask re toe adjusters but think they looked at all this. No harm in asking again though.

Kevin - you posted a few months ago on WIM local to me and you - did you have good experience there or did you go further afield??

[family guy]

Thanks Chris - I will heed this advice on camber. Will ask re toe adjusters but think they looked at all this. No harm in asking again though.

Kevin - you posted a few months ago on WIM local to me and you - did you have good experience there or did you go further afield??

hi there, is WIM just one place in chesham or is there more then one branch?  there bowt a hundread miles away from me. if poss i would like to visit a branch closer. the link on my original query shows a website called black boots which lists companys that do the geometry set-up but there all called different names, theres a couple that are very close to salisbury, wiltshire but can anyone advise wether they would recommend the other comapnys or just bite the bullet and travel to wheels in motion in chesham?

[albitz]

WIM Chesham have recently franchised their operation out to various blackboots branches around the country.
Several on here still seem to think its worthwhile taking the trip to Chesham, but its entirely up to you and your own circumstances etc.

[Pete Elite]

As I said in my earlier reply, Toe being out especially if as bad as been stated will cause inner tyre wear to both tyres.

[pscocoa]

geo result - toe adjusters ok

[Osprey]

Looks like the camber is way out as well. 
 

[pscocoa]

green means it is "in spec"