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[Shark1e]

Pheew thought it was best to check cheers

[Shark1e]

before this hot start issue, my glow plug lights always came on even when warm, so why would it not come on now and not heat the plugs either.

could it really have something to do with the heater relay?

the guy i got my chip off has told me to spray carb cleaner on the crank sensor to make sure it is not caked up and false reading

[Omegatoy]

before this hot start issue, my glow plug lights always came on even when warm, so why would it not come on now and not heat the plugs either.

could it really have something to do with the heater relay?

the guy i got my chip off has told me to spray carb cleaner on the crank sensor to make sure it is not caked up and false reading

dp they come on when motor is cold??

[Shark1e]

DP?

[Agemo]

Mine don't come on when cold, in fact I wish they would, when the car just starts to warm up, they decide "I don''t need to operate then there glowplugs" when they really are needed. I am thinking of a manual "override".  (I am going to try a new relay first).

[Shark1e]

Mine come on when cold, light goes out well before relay clunks off, as i said before. my light always lit for a short time even when warm starting,
pity no one local who i could swap relays to test the difference, these relays are mega money to buy if ain't broke.

so yours don't light up at all?

[Omegatoy]

I think it's the( in pump) sensor that needs changing.

Hot start fix is just 2k ohm in series with pump sensor till engine fires,
Thin grey or grey blue IIRC.

what wattage is the resistor chap?
nearest i can find to 2k ohm resistor is 2,2 would this do?

[Shark1e]

Tank pump or injection pump?  the later im guessing. can this resistor be fitted higher up other than pupm? anyone know where plz

[Shark1e]

anyone available to advise on these pickys please, found this relay with a blue / white wire coming from it and tapped into pin 12 of the glowplug timer,
the relay does not look like it was there from build.
and why does it tap off the glow plug timer??
is this connected to my problem?
i have tried taking the relay out and can't feel or here it click when i put it back in.







thanks rob

[Shark1e]

fitted a new relay here just incase but can't see any difference to starting.

so i'll throw it open for a bonus point

thanks rob

[Shark1e]

can anyone one shed some light on my issue in the first post on page 1 please.  thanks rob

[Shark1e]

mods please delete the last three identical posts, my bad, thought page 4 was last page and could not see my posts so resubmitted sorry.

[Jimbob]

mods please delete the last three identical posts, my bad, thought page 4 was last page and could not see my posts so resubmitted sorry.

[Shark1e]

ok one of the posts was the one i needed leaving lol,

i have took the drastic measure of buying a fleabay hot fix kit and yipeeeeeeeee it now works, paid £29.99 and came within 2 days, i got the better kit not the relay and resistor,
turns out this problem has been on the car before i brought the car, because upon untaping the ecu wiring loom near the ecu, i find out some nice dude has already chopped the temp sender wire and then put a join in it.
it seems that the relay i was asking about in the previous posts is the cheap hack job via relay and resistor, pulled out the relay i replaced upon instruction from the timer seller on ebay and all works still, even when the car is warmed up i can get glow plugs warming up and starts first crack of the key.
kit really well made and very pleased with it.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390352398314?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

anyone need any info on this just let me know, real easy fix for any skill level

Rob

[Shark1e]

ps still would like to know what the relay socket and wiring in the picture is for in general please, someone must know

thanks rob