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Re: Laser Failures and CDRs
« Reply #15 on: 22 June 2008, 10:49:15 »

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Quite a few of the Philips lasers are still available, although obviously not from Philips!

Pattern ones are readily available also -

What part number are you trying to find? (written on label of laser)
I'll hook it apart later :y.  Is it easy enough to change?
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Re: Laser Failures and CDRs
« Reply #16 on: 22 June 2008, 11:29:26 »

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Is it easy enough to change?

Without knowing your technical capabilities - difficult one to answer.

Not something a novice should tackle though  :(
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Re: Laser Failures and CDRs
« Reply #17 on: 22 June 2008, 19:43:36 »

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Is it easy enough to change?

Without knowing your technical capabilities - difficult one to answer.

Not something a novice should tackle though  :(
I guess when I take it apart, I'll be able to tell difficulty level then...
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Re: Laser Failures and CDRs
« Reply #18 on: 22 June 2008, 21:16:43 »

Dave, I assume the modern integrated pickup assemblies arrive with the laser power pre-set?

Do they still short out the BFD contacts to protect them from static during transit?
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Re: Laser Failures and CDRs
« Reply #19 on: 22 June 2008, 21:30:42 »

Yes, the contacts are soldered during transit to prevent static problems.

The lasers arrive preset from factory, but may require tweaking in circuit to give a clean "S-Curve" with no clipping.

Modern sets often do this automatically, or at least after a few calibration procedures have been done, whereas the older sets will need a bit of playing with the old scope connected I`m afraid.
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Re: Laser Failures and CDRs
« Reply #20 on: 23 June 2008, 00:05:58 »

tried cleaning my CDC 2 CCRT editions laser and it worked ok for cd1 & 2 and now its gone to pot again  but this time its sharp static throught the whole cd

playing brand new unused cds

my question is i have a CDC 2 CCR 600 edition can i swap the lasers and disc changer mechanism and swap it with my paperweight cdc2?
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Re: Laser Failures and CDRs
« Reply #21 on: 23 June 2008, 08:57:04 »

Providing that they are the same part number, swapping the lasers is a lot of work and possibly not worth the time taken to do this with a second hand one that is also near the end of its life.

If however, you are intent on trying something and have 2 CDC2 changers that are not immidiately protocol compatable with your head unit, its probably easier to change over the main circuit board from one to the other as this is where the protocol chips are located and it should(?) then power up on your existing head unit, but using the entire mechanism of the other changer.
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Re: Laser Failures and CDRs
« Reply #22 on: 24 June 2008, 16:12:20 »

If you do insist on using CDr's in your vehicles, and many people do due to reasons of theft and damage to discs etc. (as well as home audio equipment) my experience of pressing some several thousand discs has found a combination that works most reliably. As TB remarked, the key is good media. Verbatim discs are good but I tend to favour 'Imation' discs. These have proved most reliable for myself but also burned in tandem with a good writer.

CD writers are so cheap, the ones I prefer are made by Pioneer and have achieved perfect results everytime through Nero, some of which are a good number of years old. We have managed to achieve around 99% success when using this disc/write method.

The other important issues with CDr's is CD labels. The heat generated in a head-unit can cause the labels to peel off and land you in sticky (no pun intended!) territory. My advice would be not to use cheap labels and not to use thick labels, they can also cause balance issues with the disc, better not to use labels at all.
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Re: Laser Failures and CDRs
« Reply #23 on: 24 June 2008, 16:55:07 »

yes i have a pioneer CDRW & a panasonic toughbook cdrw i use sony media just out of personal choice!

dave thanks for the sugestion ill just swap the control boards over and see what happens :D
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Re: Laser Failures and CDRs
« Reply #24 on: 29 June 2008, 18:27:06 »

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If you do insist on using CDr's in your vehicles, and many people do due to reasons of theft and damage to discs etc. (as well as home audio equipment) my experience of pressing some several thousand discs has found a combination that works most reliably. As TB remarked, the key is good media. Verbatim discs are good but I tend to favour 'Imation' discs. These have proved most reliable for myself but also burned in tandem with a good writer.

CD writers are so cheap, the ones I prefer are made by Pioneer and have achieved perfect results everytime through Nero, some of which are a good number of years old. We have managed to achieve around 99% success when using this disc/write method.

The other important issues with CDr's is CD labels. The heat generated in a head-unit can cause the labels to peel off and land you in sticky (no pun intended!) territory. My advice would be not to use cheap labels and not to use thick labels, they can also cause balance issues with the disc, better not to use labels at all.
Had no end of hassle with Imation.  Tend to stick to pioneer/nec writers.

doesn't affect fact it is putting more strain on laser though.
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