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[feeutfo]

sounds like an excuse for dndservices oof open day perhaps?

[ajax]

Well I was considering fitting the Bose system in my facelift Omega but I'm in a quandry now. I keep finding myself erring towards aftermarket subs to stick in the shelf instead with a decent amp. :-/

[Dave DND]

Well I was considering fitting the Bose system in my facelift Omega but I'm in a quandry now. I keep finding myself erring towards aftermarket subs to stick in the shelf instead with a decent amp. :-/

Sounds like a good plan - Stop thinking about it and do it      

[ajax]

Well I was considering fitting the Bose system in my facelift Omega but I'm in a quandry now. I keep finding myself erring towards aftermarket subs to stick in the shelf instead with a decent amp. :-/

Sounds like a good plan - Stop thinking about it and do it      

May just do that, the only thing stopping me is I want to be able to play MP3 and would like the phone to play through the radio but I also like the MID to work! :-/

[zirk]

One of the advantages of working so closely with the manufacturers is that we do get the occasional promotional and demo CD and these are often recorded at a much higher quality to ensure that when you are showing off systems to customers that they sound their absolute best.

SACD`s were in the shops around 8 years ago for a very short time, although some music specialists may still have some as they were never popular and seldom sold. We use a copy of Thriller that we were given when playing around with some pre-production In Car SACD players years ago, but I must admit that we will too have to blow the dust off both the disc and the player, as the discs wouldn`t play in standard CD players either, one of the other reasons they never caught on.

If you are going to ask if the sound of SACD is any better? well, when compared with a standard CD recording on a standard CD player, yes, its significantly better - but if you listen to a standard CD on a 24 Bit CD player, then I would have to say that the standard CD sounds just as good - no real difference, and it was because of this reaction that the manufacturers produced a range of high end 24 bit CD players for In Car use that would play ordinary CD`s instead of developing the SACD player any further.

Now, if the gadget show compared the MP3 player with a 24bit CD player, I suspect that the final conclusion may have been very different.

Zirk, by all means come down and see us, (Essex to Paignton is a long way to hear a CD) - But as I`m quite often in Stevenage,  I`m more than happy to meet up somewhere and let you have a listen sometime

Not wrong there Dave, I had it in my Head that you were Swindon Based?, never mind, but if your going to run your tests with Audison amps on Focal speakers down there, then may if you turn the Wick Up a bit I might be able to still hear it in Essex.  

Never realised SACD were 8 years old now, how time flies, remember looking into it a couple of years back but gave up on the idea due to the lack of Material available (Audio Dat saga all over again).

Keep us posted after the tests and yea would be great to meet in the Stevenage area one Day.

[Kait]

why do you lot go mad for a 20 year old system?

a moderm head unit  would trounce it in every way

compaired to the stock system is is an improvement but spend a few hundred quid on speakers and a decent head unit and  the bose system really starts to sound a but duff

Doug

I couldn`t agree more

Even if you could get the BOSE system to sounds its absolute best, and play it back through a set of BOSE speakers that did not show signs of having aged the last 20 years, you are still left with a system that although sounded reasonable(?) 20 years ago, does not compare in any way to any modern stereo that has evolved over the years. Audio technology has come a long way, and if you do not agree, then why are you all trying to fit iPods as well? (with the exception of TB who still likes listening to the wireless)

I know that many of you like to keep the originality of the head unit, and do not like the look of modrn ones, and I can fully accept that argument, but to faff around rewiring and adding hideaway amps for little gain really does puzzle me.

A good quality modern amplifier and a good set of modern speakers hidden away, yet powered by the existing head unit is going to blow away any BOSE system. And if you disagree and think that the BOSE is better, then I would certainly like to come and visit YOUR car audio shop for a side by side comparison.

 

In my case, aftermarket headunit means that I have to give up my BC and carphone or remove CID and intall MID...not an option for me . So I decided to stay with the best there is, Siemens NCDC2015.
And to add quality I decided to have Bose also.

Lets think of the price, you won't get god quality aftermarket system inc. 8(6)speakers and amp for price of bose (~100£), you would only get more-less decent coponent speakers for rear door;D. At least in here, Estonia.

I've done wiring and I'll have my ncdc2015 programmed to Bose tomorrow and new speakers and subs in place for weekend....
I don't expect it to be "bang& olufsen" but, it's likely going to be nice quality sound after all, for it's price.....I'll confirm that later

[Martin_1962]

128kbit is about the standard that most programs compress to by default, there are other settings, but lets face it, who looks at anything other than the default settings? The more info you put on your MP3 player, the better it will sound.

We are going to have a play in a car with an iPod using as high a compression ratio as we can get, and will compare with a standard CD on a 24 bit player and an SACD as we have also have a player for that one also. ICE equipment will be with Audison amps on Focal speakers and also on a dedicated Clarion system as well.

Hope to have some results mid / late april

 

Wow, I’ve yet to listen to one of those, where you going to get a decent source recorded material from? I would really be interested in coming up and being a spectator to your tests. My back ground is Electronics Engineer, Sound Engineer and Hi Fi Engineer before becoming, my lasted trade, Radio Communications Engineer.

Any chance of an invite for the tests, don’t mind travelling, (pm sent).

Gently strokes my Pioneer DV575

Great format as is DVD-Audio much better than CD

[Martin_1962]

Now, if the gadget show compared the MP3 player with a 24bit CD player, I suspect that the final conclusion may have been very different.

My home DVD player would have won that no contest - however I would go DVD Audio

[Martin_1962]

128kbit is about the standard that most programs compress to by default, there are other settings, but lets face it, who looks at anything other than the default settings? The more info you put on your MP3 player, the better it will sound.

We are going to have a play in a car with an iPod using as high a compression ratio as we can get, and will compare with a standard CD on a 24 bit player and an SACD as we have also have a player for that one also. ICE equipment will be with Audison amps on Focal speakers and also on a dedicated Clarion system as well.

Hope to have some results mid / late april

 

I would like to see that

Bloody gaypods they killed high resolution music

[Martin_1962]

Now my dream in car system would have been a FM MW LW SW DAB* for radio and the in head unit media would be MD, changer would be CD SACD DVD-A.

Pioneer have done all of those formats.

* 6 Music has a couple of good shows

Actually I have used a VCR for recording music and it was pretty good, wide dynamic range analogue

[Martin_1962]

Well for sound quality my system is quite good, I have a Sony MD head unit with an Ebay Sony changer, a Freecycle car amp of a make I cannot remember and Infinity 605CS speakers in the front doors.

It does sound good when cranked up

[TheBoy]

Now my dream in car system would have been a FM MW LW SW DAB* for radio and the in head unit media would be MD, changer would be CD SACD DVD-A.

Pioneer have done all of those formats.

* 6 Music has a couple of good shows

Actually I have used a VCR for recording music and it was pretty good, wide dynamic range analogue

Saw a press release the other day about Pioneer, but can't remember exactly what it was about - they are either pulling out of home cinema or out of just TVs...

[Martin_1962]

Now my dream in car system would have been a FM MW LW SW DAB* for radio and the in head unit media would be MD, changer would be CD SACD DVD-A.

Pioneer have done all of those formats.

* 6 Music has a couple of good shows

Actually I have used a VCR for recording music and it was pretty good, wide dynamic range analogue

Saw a press release the other day about Pioneer, but can't remember exactly what it was about - they are either pulling out of home cinema or out of just TVs...

Out of TVs and they were my second choice brand but too much more than my W4500.

Great kit though my DVD player is excellent

[Kait]

in need a little bit information. How to program NCDC 2015 to Bose mode with Tech2?

[Marks DTM Calib]

You need to go into the NCDC2013 with Tech2 and select programming and the config programming.

Reset the varient code to:035 (it should be 034 at the moment)

Program that in and jobs a good un