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[TheBoy]

i think you can see where we are going with this

Not quite sure, the instrument panel?

Certainly possible, but not, I was going to say we have to disconnect connected circuits one at a time until we find the faulty part

[Ratty]

ok, all done, i even pulled the climate control panel and it still showed a short

[TheBoy]

instrument panel, front and rear leccy window switches

[TheBoy]

and all dash switches above radio

[Ratty]

i'm losing light now, will do the rest tomorrow morning

Thanks for the help so far TB, really appreciate it

Are you about in the morning?

[TheBoy]

i'm losing light now, will do the rest tomorrow morning

Thanks for the help so far TB, really appreciate it

Are you about in the morning?

Sadly not going to be online much for a few days (after Newent).

The Haynes manual shows all connected systems (track 1532).

[TheBoy]

Just another thought, seeing as I have now read the entire thread - double check the wiring behind the switch plug, as it happened when you changed switch, in case somethin dislodged

[Ratty]

Oh yeah I'd forgot about Newent...

have a good trip mate.

I have checked behind the switch, everything seems to be ok there

[Ratty]

Ok, just pulled the clocks, switches (above the radio) and all door window switches

Still shows short on pins 9 & 12 on the loom-side of the switch

[I_want_an_Omega]

The illumination is also taken into the passenger kick panel to the multipin connector for the Carin sat nav system. Haven't been fiddling around in that area have you?

Its also taken to the rear heated seat switches which are blanked off on either side of the rear ciggy lighter. I've you have had the centre console off then a trapped wire somewhere?

The other possibility is that one of the bulbs has failed short circuit (they usually fail open circuit) - that would give the symptoms you describe. The only way that you will find that is by removing them all one by one.

Your could also try pulling the row of switches above the radio - they are all illuminated, and could be a problem source.

Finally, clocks and info display - cant think of much else it could be TBH  :-/

HTH

[Ratty]

Nope not touched the kick panels either side, but I did have the rear vent apart a while ago cos someone had put a screw through the housing and into the vent opening wheel, I did notice the 2 connectors in there and wondered what they were for, but don't think I touch anything that would cause it to short, I will check in a while it's peeing down here 

[I_want_an_Omega]

They are for the heated seats, but there is also a bulb for the rear lighter - its a tiny little thing on two thin purple wires ......

[Ratty]

just checked and it's all ok in there,

This has really got me stumped, I was hoping that by disconnecting each component in the loop as it were I'd find the culprit but everything comes up as OK...

think I need someone who knows their way round Miggy 'lectrics to have a look, cos I aint got a clue...

[I_want_an_Omega]

Me too.

I'm going to sit down later with the wiring diagram and list out everything that is connected onto this troublesome feed, that way you can use it as a checklist.

I guess by now you are quite familiar with the light switch. How easy is it to get to an individual connection on the back of the switch?

[Ratty]

Me and the switch are on intimate terms   

The back of the switch is easy, further into the loom looks like it's fairly hard to get at, the components connected which i've checked by checking for an open circuit on pins 9 and 12 of the diagram TB posted yesterday are...

The ashtray, snow switch, gear selector lights (autobox) climate control panel switches, door leccy window switches front and back, cigar lighter and light at the rear, instrument panel, radio is out anyway all switches above radio.

each one returns and open circuit on the above pins of the switch (loom side)