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NCDC 2015 fix
« on: 04 August 2010, 16:58:45 »

I had an issue with the NCDC 2015 in my Elite, and thanks to TB we now know what the cause of the issue is. I did a search and only found it happen to one other person, but I don't think they ever cured it. But thought I'd post about my experience incase others have the same issue.

2003 Omega 2.6 Elite manual fitted with NCDC 2015 (the one with the telematics in the glove box)

Issue;
The unit would randomly switch itself on no matter if the ignition was on or off, locked or unlocked etc and prompt you to phone the emergency services.

Cause;
The airbag ecu, (located under the centre armrest at the back, in the case of a facelift Elite; under where the heated rear seat buttons are) thought an airbag had been deployed. There was no airbag deployment, but the vehicle thought there had been, this lead it to automatically prompt you to call the emergency services.

Fix;
For the moment the telematics unit has just been unplugged, this has cured it. The battery would be drained if the vehicle was left overnight and until midday the next day.
I'm unsure of what the permanent fix will be, no issue for me at the moment...but TB suggested a multimeter on the ecu, not sure if it's possible to just replace the ecu. But for anyone else with the same issue, a fix to preserve the battery is to simply unplug the telematics unit until something can be done with the airbag ecu.

A big thanks to TB who found all this out for me. And as there aren't many 2015's out there, it's not a massively common issue so could be hard to diagnose otherwise.
« Last Edit: 04 August 2010, 16:59:54 by joshwyatt »
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Re: NCDC 2015 fix
« Reply #1 on: 04 August 2010, 17:19:25 »

Very interesting !!

Do you have any details and numbers from the Airbag ECU ?  As I can see if its one we can reset and reprogram for you
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Re: NCDC 2015 fix
« Reply #2 on: 04 August 2010, 19:13:56 »

Josh - I think yours is a wiring fault between SRS ecu and telematics.


To throw another in the pot, my telematics (being retro fitted) also thinks airbag deployed (not connected the telematics to SRS), but doesn't call.  Need to go through your telematics settings and compare to mine next time you are over this way.
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Re: NCDC 2015 fix
« Reply #3 on: 04 August 2010, 20:06:26 »

I never did connect that wire up on my install!  ;)

Obviously you have a faulty Telematics that you need to sell on....  ::) ;D I could always take it off your hands.
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Re: NCDC 2015 fix
« Reply #4 on: 04 August 2010, 20:16:16 »

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I never did connect that wire up on my install!  ;)

Obviously you have a faulty Telematics that you need to sell on....  ::) ;D I could always take it off your hands.
Wait your turn, young man ;D ;D ;D
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Re: NCDC 2015 fix
« Reply #5 on: 04 August 2010, 21:14:08 »

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I never did connect that wire up on my install!  ;)

Obviously you have a faulty Telematics that you need to sell on....  ::) ;D I could always take it off your hands.
Wait your turn, young man ;D ;D ;D

LOL, one can never have too many Telematics!
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Re: NCDC 2015 fix
« Reply #6 on: 04 August 2010, 21:43:45 »

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I never did connect that wire up on my install!  ;)

Obviously you have a faulty Telematics that you need to sell on....  ::) ;D I could always take it off your hands.
Wait your turn, young man ;D ;D ;D

LOL, one can never have too many Telematics!
;D, or Tech 2's ...or.....er.....curry  :-/.    ;D
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Re: NCDC 2015 fix
« Reply #7 on: 04 August 2010, 21:50:45 »

Interesting though

1 how the he'll did TB find all that out?

2 why does ecru think air bag fired. Fubar?
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Re: NCDC 2015 fix
« Reply #8 on: 04 August 2010, 22:11:17 »

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;D, or Tech 2's ...or.....er.....curry  :-/.    ;D

Did someone mention curry? :D
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Re: NCDC 2015 fix
« Reply #9 on: 04 August 2010, 22:16:24 »

Well the first question is relatively easy to answer.

The Telematics has the option to dial the national (redirects to regional) emergency services number - 112 I believe, would get to 999 in the UK. This number is accessed directly in only three circumstances:-

1) SOS button pressed on Telematics
2) SOS button pressed on NCDC2015
3) Airbag trigered

Well Tech II can test for button presses on the devices so would be able to detect a stuck button and would also be able to check the status of the Airbag trigger line that the Telematics is linked too.
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Re: NCDC 2015 fix
« Reply #10 on: 06 August 2010, 06:48:06 »

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;D, or Tech 2's ...or.....er.....curry  :-/.    ;D

Did someone mention curry? :D

Our turn I think. Thanks again Mrs Wood  ;)
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« Reply #11 on: 06 August 2010, 16:07:13 »

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;D, or Tech 2's ...or.....er.....curry  :-/.    ;D

Did someone mention curry? :D

Our turn I think. Thanks again Mrs Wood  ;)

Did someone mention curry?  :D

better get in there quick before i am poor!  ;D
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Re: NCDC 2015 fix
« Reply #12 on: 06 August 2010, 23:50:20 »

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;D, or Tech 2's ...or.....er.....curry  :-/.    ;D

Did someone mention curry? :D

Our turn I think. Thanks again Mrs Wood  ;)

Did someone mention curry?  :D

better get in there quick before i am poor!  ;D

When are you in Japan again?
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