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[theolodian]

Want something interesting as a second car, and a little special.  Bike/Elise/VX220 Turbo don't carry enough to be at all practical.  Want to use regularly although will keep the Omega so not every day.

I would rather be in the 6K range, but bu66er all in terms of decent cars.  Love the ur-Quattro but too old.  Not safe enough by modern standards without a cage, and that's a lot of money on an already expensive car.  Plus lose rear seats.  OTOH, maybe Esprit not so safe, old design?  :-/

[Kevin Wood]

If safety is an issue with the Audi I'd look carefully at the Lotus. Quite a few old Lotus cars pretty much only have chassis strength down the transmission tunnel so quite what happens in a side impact I'm not sure. Esprit is a very different animal to the ones I am familiar with (Elan, Europa, etc.) However it's a lot of car for the money and a shape that ages well IMHO.

If the "wedge" shape does it for you what about a TVR 350/390? (watch out for rotten chassis though). Slightly more conventional front engine, rwd setup so probably less expensive to keep running?

Digging up some owner's forums would probably be a good move.

Kevin

[theolodian]

Seems to have wide sills, though not quite as imposing for the size as the Elise.  Sure it isn't stellar safety though, and no airbags.

Would do a lot of work myself, and hear TVR's aren't so great.  Also heard that the Noble's completely fall to pieces, but that's not in my price range anyway.

[The Elite]

Sod safety, do it, you know you wanna!!!!  

[HerefordElite]

Want something interesting as a second car, and a little special.  Bike/Elise/VX220 Turbo don't carry enough to be at all practical.  Want to use regularly although will keep the Omega so not every day.

I would rather be in the 6K range, but bu66er all in terms of decent cars.  Love the ur-Quattro but too old.  Not safe enough by modern standards without a cage, and that's a lot of money on an already expensive car.  Plus lose rear seats.  OTOH, maybe Esprit not so safe, old design?  :-/

just supercharge your elite - job done  

[theolodian]

Sod safety, do it, you know you wanna!!!!  

It's gonna be something like that in the end.  

[The Elite]

Good man! We have to put up with enough crap from the health and safety nazi's in everyday life, you gotta have some fun every now and again...

[Kevin Wood]

Good man! We have to put up with enough crap from the health and safety nazi's in everyday life, you gotta have some fun every now and again...

Well said. My toy car isn't exactly high on the NCAP ratings However, I don't intend to crash it.

Kevin

[albitz]

hayabusa with panniers?  

[theolodian]

968 CS would probably be better for the money.  :-/

I want something un-pc.  Amazing how much they cost though, you would think they would be less popular?!  :-?

[albitz]

dunno what a 968cs is :-/

[The Elite]

I think for a bit of fun I'd go for a cossie powered, tarmac arched mk2 escort. I live in a town full of roundabouts so I'd just go everywhere sideways with a big grin on my face.

[Kevin Wood]

I think for a bit of fun I'd go for a cossie powered, tarmac arched mk2 escort. I live in a town full of roundabouts so I'd just go everywhere sideways with a big grin on my face.

BIG money for a nice MK 2 unless you're in for a restoration though.

Kevin

[albitz]

full cage,lsd,anti dive,anti tramp,quick rack...funnnnnnnnn...

[The Elite]

Now we're talking! You can get a group 4 shell for around £15k, rally ready car for £45k. Its a lot of pennies but very well spent if you ask me!