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I_want_an_Omega

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Kickdown Switch?
« on: 16 January 2011, 13:47:14 »

Can anyone advise where the automatic kickdown switch is located for the V6 MFL please.

My kickdown does not appear to be working and I thought that checking the switch would be a sensible place to start.

I have the wiring diagram and Vx state that S104 is located in the engine bay by cowl.

Any ideas?

Thanks - Rob
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Re: Kickdown Switch?
« Reply #1 on: 16 January 2011, 13:52:29 »

From Haynes.

Kickdown switch
32 The kickdown switch is an integral part of
the accelerator cable and cannot be renewed
separately. Refer to Chapter 4A for details of
accelerator cable removal and refitting.

1 Working in the engine compartment, unclip
the inner cable retaining clip then slide the clip
out of the end fitting and release the cable
from the throttle cam (see illustration).
2 Free the accelerator outer cable from its
mounting bracket, taking care not to lose the
adjusting clip (see illustration). Work back
along the length of the cable, free it from any
retaining clips or ties, noting its correct
routing. On models with automatic
transmission it will be necessary to
disconnect the wiring from the kickdown
switch which is built into the cable.

Refitting
8 Feed the cable into position from the
engine compartment and seat the outer cable
grommet in the bulkhead.
9 From inside the vehicle, clip the inner cable
end fitting into position in the pedal end and
check to make sure the grommet is correctly
located in the bulkhead. Check that the cable
is securely retained, then refit the
heater/ventilation duct and undercover to the
facia.
10 From within the engine compartment,
ensure the outer cable is correctly seated in
the bulkhead, then work along the cable,
securing it in position with the retaining clips
and ties, and ensuring that the cable is
correctly routed. On models with automatic
transmission, reconnect the kickdown switch
wiring connector making sure the wiring is
correctly routed

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Re: Kickdown Switch?
« Reply #2 on: 16 January 2011, 14:00:49 »

Thanks so much ............
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Re: Kickdown Switch?
« Reply #3 on: 16 January 2011, 21:08:12 »

I don't think the Omega has (or needs) a kick down switch. The gearbox is ECU controlled. The throttle position sensor monitors the position of the throttle (and the speed at which it is being opened) then the ECU calculates when kick down is required.
[edit]The Haynes book is called the book of lies for a reason.........[/edit]
« Last Edit: 16 January 2011, 21:10:36 by andyh »
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Re: Kickdown Switch?
« Reply #4 on: 16 January 2011, 21:15:24 »

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I don't think the Omega has (or needs) a kick down switch. The gearbox is ECU controlled. The throttle position sensor monitors the position of the throttle (and the speed at which it is being opened) then the ECU calculates when kick down is required.
[edit]The Haynes book is called the book of lies for a reason.........[/edit]
it's connected to the cable .... lives up near the wiper motor - I've never actually seen it, but remember an EPC picture of it being posted.  ;)
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Re: Kickdown Switch?
« Reply #5 on: 16 January 2011, 21:25:12 »

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I don't think the Omega has (or needs) a kick down switch. The gearbox is ECU controlled. The throttle position sensor monitors the position of the throttle (and the speed at which it is being opened) then the ECU calculates when kick down is required.

I didn't consult the Haynes wiring diagram as I have the official VX wiring diagram for '99 MY. It shows the kickdown switch as S104.

So, on that basis I think it does have one  :-X
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Re: Kickdown Switch?
« Reply #6 on: 16 January 2011, 21:38:03 »

Do you have a replacement switch/cable Rob?
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Re: Kickdown Switch?
« Reply #7 on: 16 January 2011, 21:58:33 »

Not yet Lee no. I'm hoping that it can be adjusted as there is masses of play in the pedal.

But if I do need one then I know just the man to contact  :question  :y
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Re: Kickdown Switch?
« Reply #8 on: 16 January 2011, 22:11:09 »

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I don't think the Omega has (or needs) a kick down switch. The gearbox is ECU controlled. The throttle position sensor monitors the position of the throttle (and the speed at which it is being opened) then the ECU calculates when kick down is required.

I didn't consult the Haynes wiring diagram as I have the official VX wiring diagram for '99 MY. It shows the kickdown switch as S104.

So, on that basis I think it does have one  :-X
Oops Sorry, not trying to spread misinformation :-[ :-[ :-[

My experience has been with a pre-facelift manual (which had a throttle cable but no kick down switch) and my current facelift auto (which hasn't got a throttle cable or a kick down switch)
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Re: Kickdown Switch?
« Reply #9 on: 17 January 2011, 05:53:45 »

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Not yet Lee no. I'm hoping that it can be adjusted as there is masses of play in the pedal.

But if I do need one then I know just the man to contact  :question  :y

I'll take it off just in case then ;) :y
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Re: Kickdown Switch?
« Reply #10 on: 17 January 2011, 08:34:43 »

Its up near the power sounder.

Its reliable, usual reason for kickdown issues is the throttle cable is too loose - use the adjuster at the throttle body :y
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