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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #75 on: 15 June 2011, 20:35:10 »

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My best mate, bless him, will get a apair of boards milled up for you and gayboy for this mixer, should be done in next week or 2

How about another 1 or 2?  ::) :y
I can give you the circuit. I can prolly get you the artwork when he's done it, but thinnk its too cheeky to ask for more milled boards from him  :-[s
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #76 on: 15 June 2011, 21:57:05 »

I think you have already sent me the circuit.

The artwork would be excellent though, I could get one made up for a possible project I may have in mind  ::) 
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #77 on: 16 June 2011, 00:10:33 »

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My best mate, bless him, will get a apair of boards milled up for you and gayboy for this mixer, should be done in next week or 2
Excellent. Thank you/him!

Fancy fitting it at the Lakes? ::)
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #78 on: 16 June 2011, 12:01:36 »

Thank you..... :)
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #79 on: 16 June 2011, 22:45:56 »

Quick update... I've not had chance to meter it out yet but the light on the button has started lighting up :y

Still no mute/audio though so it hasn't fixed itself ::)

As the Nokia kit is completely unplugged I'm guessing that the TM loom isn't compatible with my HU without modification... Just hope I can do it at the TM plug ::)

I wonder if RobG can remember what year car/head unit it came from :-/
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #80 on: 17 June 2011, 08:32:11 »

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Quick update... I've not had chance to meter it out yet but the light on the button has started lighting up :y

Still no mute/audio though so it hasn't fixed itself ::)

As the Nokia kit is completely unplugged I'm guessing that the TM loom isn't compatible with my HU without modification... Just hope I can do it at the TM plug ::)

I wonder if RobG can remember what year car/head unit it came from :-/[/quoute]
If yours was a straight loom (all standard Omega full 36 way ones are), then its compatible.

I suspect a Cripple-Cockup...


I'll dig out a loom, and see whats what
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #81 on: 17 June 2011, 08:35:04 »

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ISO Pins

2 - 12V switched (* double check that one!)
4 - 0V Ground
8 - 12V Permanent

35 - Audio +
36 - Audio shield

Right... On My TM Loom (36 way, fully populated)

Pin 2 - Thinner Red - 12V Switched
Pin 4 - Chunky Brown - 0V Ground
Pin 8 - Chunky Red - 12V Permanent

35 and 36 relate to the 2 lower wires in this pic: (which is +ve from the jack plug normally?)



And mute is Pink with Blue trace on the above diagram (which goes to the car side of the TM loom

Does that look/sound right?
Oh FFS, this is wrong!!!
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #82 on: 17 June 2011, 08:44:45 »

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ISO Pins

2 - 12V switched (* double check that one!)
4 - 0V Ground
8 - 12V Permanent

35 - Audio +
36 - Audio shield

Right... On My TM Loom (36 way, fully populated)

Pin 2 - Thinner Red - 12V Switched
Pin 4 - Chunky Brown - 0V Ground
Pin 8 - Chunky Red - 12V Permanent

35 and 36 relate to the 2 lower wires in this pic: (which is +ve from the jack plug normally?)



And mute is Pink with Blue trace on the above diagram (which goes to the car side of the TM loom

Does that look/sound right?
Right, there is an error on this  >:(.  But, at least its not my car ::)


Cripple, if you are 100% sure you've done it right, swap over:

Orange/Red (Audio from phone/CDC)
and
Orange/Blue (Audio to HU)

You can do this at the TM end of the loom, though it will be awkward due to lying on your back, head on the brake pedal ;D
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #83 on: 19 June 2011, 16:02:44 »

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Right, there is an error on this  >:(.  But, at least its not my car ::)


Cripple, if you are 100% sure you've done it right, swap over:

Orange/Red (Audio from phone/CDC)
and
Orange/Blue (Audio to HU)

You can do this at the TM end of the loom, though it will be awkward due to lying on your back, head on the brake pedal ;D

Not had a chance to try swapping them yet but I do remember that some of my wire colours were different to the diagram. I connected it to the wire from the appropriate pin in the above diagram and think these 2 were correct :-/

I have a dreadful feeling that I'm going to be pulling it all out again ::) but will try swapping those wires around first ;)

Can the pins be removed from the plug and swapped that way or am I going to need to cut & solder them?

I know 100% that I connected everything to the wires as per the (now found to be incorrect) diagram posted by that Zok bloke ::) ::)
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #84 on: 19 June 2011, 16:28:11 »

I care not about the colours, as I know they can vary. Its the pins that are incorrect.

Will swapping those 2 make a difference? Who knows. But its a fault.

This is unlike to affect the (lack of) MUTE, so I suspect you will be yanking it all out again.
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #85 on: 20 June 2011, 01:35:10 »

Ah, a few things become clear. Non of them helpful though  :-[

1 clearly I have no clue what most of this thread means.  ;D
2 I fully intended go get my similar project under way before meeting TB sat last by getting stuff plugged in , trim panels off, loom in place etc. Sadly no time, I didn't bring it as I  didn't feel it fair to ask him to do the stuff I could prepare anyway. But no matter as it pessed down all day anyway.
3 we discussed it briefly and TB mentioned yours needed a mixer, and being thick I dint fully appreciate I would need one as well, and hence that he was doing me a real favor with the boards so thanks again.  :)
4 my fobia about these things ment I've only just summoned the strength to read this  :-[;D
5 although I thought it would be helpful to make a start, seems from what TB was saying, I'll likely be making more work for finishing the project ie  soldering connections.... And probably braking kick panels as well by the sound of it....?  :-[
6 looks like the lakes is next opportunity...? What can I do in the mean time?

...and this other project... I wonder?  ::)

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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #86 on: 20 June 2011, 08:22:48 »

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Ah, a few things become clear. Non of them helpful though  :-[

1 clearly I have no clue what most of this thread means.  ;D
2 I fully intended go get my similar project under way before meeting TB sat last by getting stuff plugged in , trim panels off, loom in place etc. Sadly no time, I didn't bring it as I  didn't feel it fair to ask him to do the stuff I could prepare anyway. But no matter as it pessed down all day anyway.
3 we discussed it briefly and TB mentioned yours needed a mixer, and being thick I dint fully appreciate I would need one as well, and hence that he was doing me a real favor with the boards so thanks again.  :)
4 my fobia about these things ment I've only just summoned the strength to read this  :-[;D
5 although I thought it would be helpful to make a start, seems from what TB was saying, I'll likely be making more work for finishing the project ie  soldering connections.... And probably braking kick panels as well by the sound of it....?  :-[
6 looks like the lakes is next opportunity...? What can I do in the mean time?

...and this other protect... I wonder?  ::)

It will be a couple of weeks before I can get the boards milled up, as I'm reliant on favours from others (as I don't have the equipment to do it, and the old etching method is difficult to get decent etching fluids).


Given the close proximity you are to me, and the fact that you will, no doubt, be busy playing with everyone's bushes at the Lakes, we can have a play before or after the meet, rather than try to fit too much in on a busy weekend?
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #87 on: 20 June 2011, 10:31:45 »

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Ah, a few things become clear. Non of them helpful though  :-[

1 clearly I have no clue what most of this thread means.  ;D
2 I fully intended go get my similar project under way before meeting TB sat last by getting stuff plugged in , trim panels off, loom in place etc. Sadly no time, I didn't bring it as I  didn't feel it fair to ask him to do the stuff I could prepare anyway. But no matter as it pessed down all day anyway.
3 we discussed it briefly and TB mentioned yours needed a mixer, and being thick I dint fully appreciate I would need one as well, and hence that he was doing me a real favor with the boards so thanks again.  :)
4 my fobia about these things ment I've only just summoned the strength to read this  :-[;D
5 although I thought it would be helpful to make a start, seems from what TB was saying, I'll likely be making more work for finishing the project ie  soldering connections.... And probably braking kick panels as well by the sound of it....?  :-[
6 looks like the lakes is next opportunity...? What can I do in the mean time?

...and this other protect... I wonder?  ::)

It will be a couple of weeks before I can get the boards milled up, as I'm reliant on favours from others (as I don't have the equipment to do it, and the old etching method is difficult to get decent etching fluids).


Given the close proximity you are to me, and the fact that you will, no doubt, be busy playing with everyone's bushes at the Lakes, we can have a play before or after the meet, rather than try to fit too much in on a busy weekend?

Sounds like an excuse for a curry! ::) ::) :D :D
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #88 on: 20 June 2011, 12:27:05 »

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Sounds like an excuse for a curry! ::) ::) :D :D
The last curry I had with Gayboy, Saturday evening, I could barely drink...  ...I hadn't recovered from the night before when I went out for a quiet drink with my best mate, and ended up in the curry house.

I was a bit dopey Saturday morning  :-[
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #89 on: 20 June 2011, 13:11:02 »

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Sounds like an excuse for a curry! ::) ::) :D :D
The last curry I had with Gayboy, Saturday evening, I could barely drink...  ...I hadn't recovered from the night before when I went out for a quiet drink with my best mate, and ended up in the curry house.

I was a bit dopey Saturday morning  :-[

Man Up! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Were you on little bottles again? :-? :-?
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