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navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« on: 04 January 2011, 17:18:53 »

i have the colour satnav shizl for my mv6 with the navtech satnav disc that was issued at the original point of sale. in short, will later navtech discs work in the same system, or to put the question another way, does anyone know what the most recent edition of the navtech disc is that will be compatible in the 2013 omega unit?

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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #1 on: 04 January 2011, 17:34:06 »

yes they will.. they have just lunched a complete set of cds at 200€ with western europe 2011, but once you insert one of those you can never go back to the old ones :(
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #2 on: 04 January 2011, 21:21:30 »

Genuine ones upto 2010, last time I looked.

Don't be tempted to use copies though.  It kills the lasers....   :y
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #3 on: 05 January 2011, 09:06:17 »

they have this one now European Package - Siemens Opel 8-CD Set v.2010-2011
Catalog # T1000-17432

actualy is the only one available since it will make unusable the old ones :)
http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site/en_GB/-/EUR/ViewStandardCatalog-Browse?CatalogCategoryID=YoUKCggRMCoAAAEOfsttNDzd&ShowAllProducts=YES&PersistNavigationMenu=YES#
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #4 on: 05 January 2011, 11:16:31 »

I use a 2010 disc that I managed to buy off eBay.de, probably from someone who was splitting a Western Europe set and didn't need/want the UK disc.

Cost about £25 in the end, but cheaper than paying the £60/70 over here.

So might be worth trawling eBay.de if your German is any good  :y.
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #5 on: 05 January 2011, 13:04:18 »

well right now you get 8cds at 200pounds so its 25 pound a piece :). unfortunately you cant get a single one :(
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #6 on: 05 January 2011, 13:59:37 »

Yes the lousy cash grabbing europeans with bottomed out morals and values >:(
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #7 on: 05 January 2011, 17:27:12 »

thanks for the advice chaps. so i'm right in thinking that if i want to use this later disc my earlier ones become unusable? will keep an eye out for a later uk disc as mentioned  :y
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #8 on: 05 January 2011, 17:35:43 »

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thanks for the advice chaps. so i'm right in thinking that if i want to use this later disc my earlier ones become unusable? will keep an eye out for a later uk disc as mentioned  :y

Not sure about the Omega ones, but generally speaking, the insertion of a later Nav disc usually updates a small amount of firmware at the same time for the "searches" which is what makes using the older discs difficult afterwards.

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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #9 on: 05 January 2011, 19:07:05 »

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thanks for the advice chaps. so i'm right in thinking that if i want to use this later disc my earlier ones become unusable? will keep an eye out for a later uk disc as mentioned  :y

Not sure about the Omega ones, but generally speaking, the insertion of a later Nav disc usually updates a small amount of firmware at the same time for the "searches" which is what makes using the older discs difficult afterwards.

 ;)
Normally, inserting an older disk 'upgrades' the firmware to the older version, but NavTeq are now saying that once you have upgraded to the 2011 on the NCDx, you cannot go back.



Does anyone in UK have 2011 maps? Does it enable TMC messages if radio tuned to Classic or Heart (try both).  I don't want to spend the money if it doesn't enable that feature...
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #10 on: 05 January 2011, 21:24:51 »

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thanks for the advice chaps. so i'm right in thinking that if i want to use this later disc my earlier ones become unusable? will keep an eye out for a later uk disc as mentioned  :y

Not sure about the Omega ones, but generally speaking, the insertion of a later Nav disc usually updates a small amount of firmware at the same time for the "searches" which is what makes using the older discs difficult afterwards.

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Normally, inserting an older disk 'upgrades' the firmware to the older version, but NavTeq are now saying that once you have upgraded to the 2011 on the NCDx, you cannot go back.



Does anyone in UK have 2011 maps? Does it enable TMC messages if radio tuned to Classic or Heart (try both).  I don't want to spend the money if it doesn't enable that feature...

I think i'd sooner not know about the impending traffic jam if I had to utilise the single tuner to get the 'TMC' data!

Still interested to know the answer though... as will Mr Gixer no doubt!
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #11 on: 05 January 2011, 22:59:49 »

Didn`t think any of the Vx range used the TMC data ?

Didn`t think they spent on the licensing needed to make it work in the UK - could be wrong and thinking of something else though, but I know there is something that Vx woudln`t spend out on.
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #12 on: 05 January 2011, 23:12:10 »

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could be wrong and thinking of something else though, but I know there is something that Vx woudln`t spend out on.

anti corrosion measures?!  :P
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #13 on: 06 January 2011, 09:40:53 »

with tmc you don't need a new map :D.. i have an opel omega, not vx :D and this last summer i went to germany with a nav cd that is 2001 but i nevedr had any single problem and no trafic jam. a year before i was guided by my e90 with garmin and it took 2 times longer and 2 one way roads i almost steered into them :). from what i understood in uk you need to pay for tmc or what??
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #14 on: 06 January 2011, 11:45:57 »

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with tmc you don't need a new map :D.. i have an opel omega, not vx :D and this last summer i went to germany with a nav cd that is 2001 but i nevedr had any single problem and no trafic jam. a year before i was guided by my e90 with garmin and it took 2 times longer and 2 one way roads i almost steered into them :). from what i understood in uk you need to pay for tmc or what??

Basically that - in the UK (from what I've read from TheBoy here) TMC is encrypted and Vauxhall didn't pay for the decryption keys to use TMC..

In Europe TMC is free to all (as my Dad found out when his Nissan magically started using it)
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