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[ninjapirate]

anyone use this? thinking about downloading and trying it alongside windows. if its any good maybe full install.
matey loves it muchly

[aaronjb]

Yep (that and most other Linux distributions over the years) - as a plug 'n play Linux distro it does very well indeed IMHO.

It's still not for 'most' people, though, I think - largely because most folks like being able to download Windows software to use willy nilly.. The informed, however, know that you can get an equivalent of most things (often for free)..

[Kevin Wood]

Yep, been using it on all my home machines for years.

Although.. I'm currently running 10.04LTS on my desktop, and Unbuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 on my netbook and wondering if I really want to upgrade any further and get forced into using the gnome 3 / unity window managers, both of which dumb the thing down into a glorified IPhone, IMHO.. I suppose I could always hack gnome 2.x onto it. I guess there are always choices with Linux.

Try it. As a desktop Linux I reckon it's pretty good. Easy to install and "just works" out of the box, on the whole.

If you get stuck, give me a shout and I'll be happy to help.

[I_want_an_Omega]

I used it for a while and liked it overall. I had two problems:

1) Some of the characters in emails didn't seem right - couldn't put my finger on what though

2) One day my email inbox just vanished. I've still not found it. Any ideas?

Dont use it anymore but would go back if I could resolve the probs.

[TheBoy]

Ubuntu = Linux for stupid people. As firmly proven by the latest versions. Strikes me as may as well use Windoze, and cut all the hassle.

Its based on Debian, which is a far better Linux IMHO, but requires just a little more effort.

Trouble with Linux as a desktop, however, as soon as you put X11 (the GUI) on it, it becomes bloated, slow and frustrating. X11 will never be fast, as its core design was for remote apps.

[TheBoy]

I should add the 'proper' Linux distros do tend to be more stable overall, but te licencing costs put the out of the reach of most home users...

[dbug]

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[TheBoy]

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Linux has a place. I look after hundreds of the buggers, which many of you are using every day without realising, aside from OOF .

But that place isn't on the desktop for the vast majority of people.

[dbug]

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Linux has a place. I look after hundreds of the buggers, which many of you are using every day without realising, aside from OOF .

But that place isn't on the desktop for the vast majority of people.

Tend to agree with that statement - however personally "like" linux (used to like DOS too!!) plus there's some very good GNU licensed software to suit 

[TheBoy]

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Linux has a place. I look after hundreds of the buggers, which many of you are using every day without realising, aside from OOF .

But that place isn't on the desktop for the vast majority of people.

Tend to agree with that statement - however personally "like" linux (used to like DOS too!!) plus there's some very good GNU licensed software to suit 

'Proper' Linux is also GNU. Doesn't make it cheap. Actually, makes Windows Server look cheap

[Kevin Wood]

But that place isn't on the desktop for the vast majority of people.

I think the likes of Apple are starting to show that the desktop isn't the best place for the vast majority of people any more.

The fact is, anything with a vaguely functional web browser, mail client and the capability to install a few other toys will do for the average user these days (notably excluding gamers - they're stuck with windows if they insist on trying to do it on a PC. Why they wouldn't just buy a console beats me, though).

I suspect if Linux came pre-installed on a machine they'd just use it, and if windows didn't, they'd struggle to get the CD in the slot, let alone install it and get it working well.

[TheBoy]

But that place isn't on the desktop for the vast majority of people.

I think the likes of Apple are starting to show that the desktop isn't the best place for the vast majority of people any more.

The fact is, anything with a vaguely functional web browser, mail client and the capability to install a few other toys will do for the average user these days (notably excluding gamers - they're stuck with windows if they insist on trying to do it on a PC. Why they wouldn't just buy a console beats me, though).

I suspect if Linux came pre-installed on a machine they'd just use it, and if windows didn't, they'd struggle to get the CD in the slot, let alone install it and get it working well.

The likes of Dell, HP, Lenovo and Acer struggle with that one as well

I think 3 or 4 years ago, crApple (and others) thought a web browser would be enough, but I see the App Store/Android Marketplace/Software Applications stores as a concession of defeat...

[Kevin Wood]

But that place isn't on the desktop for the vast majority of people.

I think the likes of Apple are starting to show that the desktop isn't the best place for the vast majority of people any more.

The fact is, anything with a vaguely functional web browser, mail client and the capability to install a few other toys will do for the average user these days (notably excluding gamers - they're stuck with windows if they insist on trying to do it on a PC. Why they wouldn't just buy a console beats me, though).

I suspect if Linux came pre-installed on a machine they'd just use it, and if windows didn't, they'd struggle to get the CD in the slot, let alone install it and get it working well.

The likes of Dell, HP, Lenovo and Acer struggle with that one as well

I think 3 or 4 years ago, crApple (and others) thought a web browser would be enough, but I see the App Store/Android Marketplace/Software Applications stores as a concession of defeat...

Yes, I see what you're saying, but most of the Apps appear to be just platform specific implementations of some service or other that could just as easily have  been browser based... certainly if flash was available to the developer.

[Rods2]

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Linux has a place. I look after hundreds of the buggers, which many of you are using every day without realising, aside from OOF .

But that place isn't on the desktop for the vast majority of people.

Tend to agree with that statement - however personally "like" linux (used to like DOS too!!) plus there's some very good GNU licensed software to suit 

'Proper' Linux is also GNU. Doesn't make it cheap. Actually, makes Windows Server look cheap

I use on my home development server Linux Fedora which is a free (but big) download.

[TheBoy]

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Linux has a place. I look after hundreds of the buggers, which many of you are using every day without realising, aside from OOF .

But that place isn't on the desktop for the vast majority of people.

Tend to agree with that statement - however personally "like" linux (used to like DOS too!!) plus there's some very good GNU licensed software to suit 

'Proper' Linux is also GNU. Doesn't make it cheap. Actually, makes Windows Server look cheap

I use on my home development server Linux Fedora which is a free (but big) download.

I said 'Proper' Linux. Fedora is, by their own admission, unstable. Not suitable for Production use. Plenty of half baked freebie distributions if you want to play