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[Terbs]

Is it not about time that learner drivers ought to be taught to control a vehicle at special centres before being let loose on the road
I have just followed one (BSM) through Farnham Common to Farnham Royal. She was all over the road, occasionally crossing the white line, speed was erratic, causing oncoming cars to scrape the kerb to avoid her.   When we got to the Green Man pub, she mounted the island in the centre of the road and stopped. I stayed back, I did not have a clue where she was going. After bumping down from the island, she then started to cross the roundabout, causing a car coming from the right to brake.  We then proceeded to head towards Farnham Royal, all over the road again, until she arrived at the large roundabout. Nothing coming  (luckily) as she never slowed down, but she then tucked in tight to the roundabout and stopped !!!!!!!!!
I assumed she was turning right onto Britwell Estate, so I went to the left of her, as did the fellow behind me, but as he passed he had to veer hard to the left as she set off again and narrowly missed him, heading the same way as us.
She made being drunk, using a mobile etc, look in a different world.
What I don't understand, do these driving school cars not have dual controls ??
I do not have a thing about learners, we all had to learn, but in today's scenario, I really feel these learners should be able to control a car before being on our roads

Rant over

[Del Boy]

All learner cars have to have dual controls, what my sons' instructor did with the both of them was, took them to a very quiet housing estate and taught them the ropes there, although they knew how to drive anyway, he has to make sure of that, they both passed first time too, I know him quite well and he does this with all of his pupils.

[Kevin Wood]

Was it a driving school car?

There is nothing to stop you going on on your 17th birthday with one of your parents sitting with you in a non-dual controlled car. That's what I did.. and it nearly ended in tears, as it happens.

IMHO, there should be at least the equivalent of a CBT before you can drive on the road.

[Terbs]

Sounds a good responsible bloke, Del.
The road I refer to, as a few on here will know, is quite busy, and Farnham Royal itself is a nighmare to drive through.

[aaronjb]

I hope you got the registration and called the local plod

[Terbs]

Yes Kevin...it was a BSM school. What I could not understand was the erratic steering...I could not see the instructor doing any correcting.
Are dual controls all three pedals or just brake and clutch, assuming it was manual geared.

[Kevin Wood]

Mind you, I know a driving instructor. I met up with him to offload an item into his car boot a while back. He had finished for the day and removed his roof sign from the car, placed it behind the car ready to go into the boot after said item.

I walked off and, as he went to reverse out of his parking space I heard a "craaack!".

 

[Vamps]

With both young Mr Vamps and Master Vamps I taught them the basics first before going to a driving school to learn, both learned clutch control and the basics on quiet off road places, Master Vamps learned to do a hill start, turning left at a T junction with a bus behind him, it worked....

I tend to agree with the thinking of learners doing the basics off main roads first, I learned on an Industrial Estate on Sundays, in the days when no one worked on a Sunday when I was about 11 years, and did the same with my little brother, we could all drive before we were 17 and all passed first time, as did Young Mr Vamps and Master Vamps...

[Andy B]

..... I learned on an Industrial Estate on Sundays, ........... when I was about 11 years, .......

Aye up! Walk on Hercules ......... 

[geoffr70]

On this note, has anyone seen the bad driving school programme on tv - can't remember what it's called or what channel, der!) It's where you see their bad driving, then a driving instructor tries to 'retrain' them in 2 hours!

Have you seen the state of their driving? They just want a bloody good punch right in the mouth, a slap, a flipping good shake, and to be shown some pictures of mangled up people squashed between even more mangled up cars. I cannot believe the attitude of these ignorant retards. These sort of people kill the likes of you and me and get a pathetic sentence if at all, and put up our insurance premiums.

[Vamps]

..... I learned on an Industrial Estate on Sundays, ........... when I was about 11 years, .......

Aye up! Walk on Hercules ......... 

Tis true, I first drove a car aged 6, well I steered it sat on my Dads lap, I had my first car at 13 and drove it on a farmers field, Ford 100e, and first took a car up the road and back again at 15, a Fiat 600. Learned in a Ford Corsair with column change, and often used to 'start' the family car and warm it up before going out, things were very different then....
Miss Vamps is wanting a go, but with an auto tis more of a risk me thinks, even on a farm,......

[Vamps]

I should also add that I was doing 'Auto Tests' competitively at 15 years old, and doing well, as a member of HMS Ganges Motor Club..

[Andy B]

...... as a member of HMS Ganges Motor Club..

Stand by your beds .................. 

[Andy B]

..... I learned on an Industrial Estate on Sundays, ........... when I was about 11 years, .......

Aye up! Walk on Hercules ......... 

Tis true, I first drove a car aged 6, well I steered it sat on my Dads lap, I had my first car at 13 and drove it on a farmers field, Ford 100e, and first took a car up the road and back again at 15, a Fiat 600. Learned in a Ford Corsair with column change, and often used to 'start' the family car and warm it up before going out, things were very different then....
Miss Vamps is wanting a go, but with an auto tis more of a risk me thinks, even on a farm,......

Our two used to 'drive' the car when we went to various caravan sites when they were quite small. They steered, I did the go & stop pedals  They loved it.

[Vamps]

..... I learned on an Industrial Estate on Sundays, ........... when I was about 11 years, .......

Aye up! Walk on Hercules ......... 

Tis true, I first drove a car aged 6, well I steered it sat on my Dads lap, I had my first car at 13 and drove it on a farmers field, Ford 100e, and first took a car up the road and back again at 15, a Fiat 600. Learned in a Ford Corsair with column change, and often used to 'start' the family car and warm it up before going out, things were very different then....
Miss Vamps is wanting a go, but with an auto tis more of a risk me thinks, even on a farm,......

Our two used to 'drive' the car when we went to various caravan sites when they were quite small. They steered, I did the go & stop pedals  They loved it.