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[Turk]

tell me how a passport can remain "intact" after many tons of fuel burning inside the building and then going down with all these pieces where even steel was torn into pieces or melt and can be found in debris prooving someones (terrorist) identity

  That's what got me thinking 'hang on, all is not as it appears'.  Up until that amazing 'discovery', I was one of the sheep.

[Johnny English]

tell me how a passport can remain "intact" after many tons of fuel burning inside the building and then going down with all these pieces where even steel was torn into pieces or melt and can be found in debris prooving someones (terrorist) identity

  That's what got me thinking 'hang on, all is not as it appears'.  Up until that amazing 'discovery', I was one of the sheep.

CIA/FBI full of Superman...

[cem_devecioglu]

tell me how a passport can remain "intact" after many tons of fuel burning inside the building and then going down with all these pieces where even steel was torn into pieces or melt and can be found in debris prooving someones (terrorist) identity

  That's what got me thinking 'hang on, all is not as it appears'.  Up until that amazing 'discovery', I was one of the sheep.

trust me at the beginning nearly everyone believed the event, including me.. the first who woke up was American citizens who start to ask (as far as I know) .. if they didnt find those things and prepare those info sites , we were still unaware.. thanks to them

[Nickbat]

tell me how a passport can remain "intact" after many tons of fuel burning inside the building and then going down with all these pieces where even steel was torn into pieces or melt and can be found in debris prooving someones (terrorist) identity

Dear Lord. 

I'll tell you how...as i have told you often before. The inertia of an aircraft travelling at well over 300 knots will propel the bodies and seats of the pilots forwards and likely eject them from the building. The items that will travel the farthest (thus escaping the inferno) would be those unsecured – such as in pockets etc. e.g. passports.

This 9/11 conspiracy rubbish is diverting attention from the real issues we need to deal with.     

[Turk]

tell me how a passport can remain "intact" after many tons of fuel burning inside the building and then going down with all these pieces where even steel was torn into pieces or melt and can be found in debris prooving someones (terrorist) identity

Dear Lord. 

I'll tell you how...as i have told you often before. The inertia of an aircraft travelling at well over 300 knots will propel the bodies and seats of the pilots forwards and likely eject them from the building. The items that will travel the farthest (thus escaping the inferno) would be those unsecured – such as in pockets etc. e.g. passports.

This 9/11 conspiracy rubbish is diverting attention from the real issues we need to deal with.     

One flaw with that theory is the passport was 'apparently' found in the rubble.  Didn't travel very far by the sounds of it. 

Isn't it strange that even the most 'damning' proof offered by the U.S government always seems to be somewhat 'far fetched'.
One could say the same about the killing of Bin Laden (the one that 'apparently' happened a few months back, not the one that actually took place many years ago), but for some bizarre reason, the only 'proof' they had was quickly disposed of.   

[cem_devecioglu]

tell me how a passport can remain "intact" after many tons of fuel burning inside the building and then going down with all these pieces where even steel was torn into pieces or melt and can be found in debris prooving someones (terrorist) identity

Dear Lord. 

I'll tell you how...as i have told you often before. The inertia of an aircraft travelling at well over 300 knots will propel the bodies and seats of the pilots forwards and likely eject them from the building. The items that will travel the farthest (thus escaping the inferno) would be those unsecured – such as in pockets etc. e.g. passports.

This 9/11 conspiracy rubbish is diverting attention from the real issues we need to deal with.     

One flaw with that theory is the passport was 'apparently' found in the rubble.  Didn't travel very far by the sounds of it. 

Isn't it strange that even the most 'damning' proof offered by the U.S government always seems to be somewhat 'far fetched'.
One could say the same about the killing of Bin Laden (the one that 'apparently' happened a few months back, not the one that actually took place many years ago), but for some bizarre reason, the only 'proof' they had was quickly disposed of.

yep, I would say the same.. not outside the building area.. the single cell idiot who placed it, didint bother to think what he is doing

[jerry]

Im with Cem. The "Zeitgeist" movie, for example,may have taken its conspiracy theory a bit far but for me there was def a cover-up of sorts. For those who havent watched "zeitgeist" I urge you to do so. Yes, its oversimplistic, yes, some of their "facts" are about as trustworthy as some you might find on wikipedia and yes, some of their conclusions are stretching it a bit to say the least. But its all easily watchable in a kind of rockn roll ,strangely sixties, way and most importatly of all its asking THE question. ..in these days when so much of our access to mainstream media is owned by so few and when so many of these owners are politically and financially in bed with other corporate businesses who do you trust? If nothing else, I guarantee that this internet movie will make you think, not least on what it has to say about the twin towers and the film footage that would seem to support their arguments. Cem is right, we must not forget 9/11 but we must be very wary of simply accepting the official lines about it. The truth is out there

[Johnny English]

Im with Cem. The "Zeitgeist" movie, for example,may have taken its conspiracy theory a bit far but for me there was def a cover-up of sorts. For those who havent watched "zeitgeist" I urge you to do so. Yes, its oversimplistic, yes, some of their "facts" are about as trustworthy as some you might find on wikipedia and yes, some of their conclusions are stretching it a bit to say the least. But its all easily watchable in a kind of rockn roll ,strangely sixties, way and most importatly of all its asking THE question. ..in these days when so much of our access to mainstream media is owned by so few and when so many of these owners are politically and financially in bed with other corporate businesses who do you trust? If nothing else, I guarantee that this internet movie will make you think, not least on what it has to say about the twin towers and the film footage that would seem to support their arguments. Cem is right, we must not forget 9/11 but we must be very wary of simply accepting the official lines about it. The truth is out there

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[cem_devecioglu]

Im with Cem. The "Zeitgeist" movie, for example,may have taken its conspiracy theory a bit far but for me there was def a cover-up of sorts. For those who havent watched "zeitgeist" I urge you to do so. Yes, its oversimplistic, yes, some of their "facts" are about as trustworthy as some you might find on wikipedia and yes, some of their conclusions are stretching it a bit to say the least. But its all easily watchable in a kind of rockn roll ,strangely sixties, way and most importatly of all its asking THE question. ..in these days when so much of our access to mainstream media is owned by so few and when so many of these owners are politically and financially in bed with other corporate businesses who do you trust? If nothing else, I guarantee that this internet movie will make you think, not least on what it has to say about the twin towers and the film footage that would seem to support their arguments. Cem is right, we must not forget 9/11 but we must be very wary of simply accepting the official lines about it. The truth is out there

 
 
 

[Nickbat]

Im with Cem. The "Zeitgeist" movie, for example,may have taken its conspiracy theory a bit far but for me there was def a cover-up of sorts. For those who havent watched "zeitgeist" I urge you to do so. Yes, its oversimplistic, yes, some of their "facts" are about as trustworthy as some you might find on wikipedia and yes, some of their conclusions are stretching it a bit to say the least. But its all easily watchable in a kind of rockn roll ,strangely sixties, way and most importatly of all its asking THE question. ..in these days when so much of our access to mainstream media is owned by so few and when so many of these owners are politically and financially in bed with other corporate businesses who do you trust? If nothing else, I guarantee that this internet movie will make you think, not least on what it has to say about the twin towers and the film footage that would seem to support their arguments. Cem is right, we must not forget 9/11 but we must be very wary of simply accepting the official lines about it. The truth is out there

 

Yep, let's use a movie to get to the "truth"!   

I can't help notice that most those who claim 9/11 was a conspiracy are essentially anti-US, anti-capitalist or anti-West (delete as applicable). 

[cem_devecioglu]

Im with Cem. The "Zeitgeist" movie, for example,may have taken its conspiracy theory a bit far but for me there was def a cover-up of sorts. For those who havent watched "zeitgeist" I urge you to do so. Yes, its oversimplistic, yes, some of their "facts" are about as trustworthy as some you might find on wikipedia and yes, some of their conclusions are stretching it a bit to say the least. But its all easily watchable in a kind of rockn roll ,strangely sixties, way and most importatly of all its asking THE question. ..in these days when so much of our access to mainstream media is owned by so few and when so many of these owners are politically and financially in bed with other corporate businesses who do you trust? If nothing else, I guarantee that this internet movie will make you think, not least on what it has to say about the twin towers and the film footage that would seem to support their arguments. Cem is right, we must not forget 9/11 but we must be very wary of simply accepting the official lines about it. The truth is out there

 

Yep, let's use a movie to get to the "truth"! 

I can't help notice that most those who claim 9/11 was a conspiracy are essentially anti-US, anti-capitalist or anti-West (delete as applicable). 

did you watch the movie ?
 
and why  do you ignore the fact that I say thanks to American citizens who showed us the truth
 
they are also suffering in hands of some.. and sending their children to war, and paying the war bills
 
for who ? for some to earn money.. 
 
so your generalisation is not correct..
 
ps: the tuth also is not only in the film, if you checked my link , there are many engineers who says thats a cover-up..

[cem_devecioglu]

must add though, you were right to say anti-capitalist

[Johnny English]

Capitalism or communism ehhh... what difference is there, the rules of market are the same so in the States as in China...I wouldn't been surprised if I heard that in China there are more billionars than in the US ... or minimum the same.

[cem_devecioglu]

Capitalism or communism ehhh... what difference is there, the rules of market are the same so in the States as in China...I wouldn't been surprised if I heard that in China there are more billionars than in the US ... or minimum the same.

there is a big difference , but for now I dont see its necessary to start long explanations and discussions as its far from the thread subject..

[albitz]

China is now possibly the most capitalist country in the world,although its heads of state dont yet want to admit to this blatantly obvious fact for some reason.
Cem - youve got your teeth into this one.Your worse than me.Like a dog with a bone.