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« Reply #45 on: 22 November 2011, 17:42:33 »

China is now possibly the most capitalist country in the world,although its heads of state dont yet want to admit to this blatantly obvious fact for some reason. ;)
Cem - youve got your teeth into this one.Your worse than me.Like a dog with a bone. ;D ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
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« Reply #46 on: 22 November 2011, 18:16:37 »

Capitalism or communism ehhh... what difference is there, the rules of market are the same so in the States as in China...I wouldn't been surprised if I heard that in China there are more billionars than in the US ... or minimum the same. ;)


Aah, there's little difference as both systems fall victim to that most basic of faults - the human condition.

We, as individuals within this race, seem determined to prosper at all costs - especially by disadvantaging others (by design or omission).

Speaking in general terms of course.
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« Reply #47 on: 22 November 2011, 19:10:57 »

if people insist more, I will start to believe those towers were in China and they created this setup ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #48 on: 22 November 2011, 20:07:20 »

Capitalism or communism ehhh... what difference is there, the rules of market are the same so in the States as in China...I wouldn't been surprised if I heard that in China there are more billionars than in the US ... or minimum the same. ;)

there is a big difference , but for now I dont see its necessary to start long explanations and discussions as its far from the thread subject..

Uuhhh, thank you Cem !  ;D ;D ;D Very interesting to see what a lot of imagination there is about communism or capitalism. I can't imagine anything at all, I just remember so experienced that...I was living in that and I'm living in this nowadays, saw how that worked and see how it does... ;) believe me, in the eye of a small man there isn't a huge amount of differ...But may there be lots of on higher levels - politicians, businessmen other. :y
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« Reply #49 on: 22 November 2011, 21:00:56 »

Capitalism or communism ehhh... what difference is there, the rules of market are the same so in the States as in China...I wouldn't been surprised if I heard that in China there are more billionars than in the US ... or minimum the same. ;)

there is a big difference , but for now I dont see its necessary to start long explanations and discussions as its far from the thread subject..

Uuhhh, thank you Cem !  ;D ;D ;D Very interesting to see what a lot of imagination there is about communism or capitalism. I can't imagine anything at all, I just remember so experienced that...I was living in that and I'm living in this nowadays, saw how that worked and see how it does... ;) believe me, in the eye of a small man there isn't a huge amount of differ...But may there be lots of on higher levels - politicians, businessmen other. :y

Laszlo,  I'm married to a Romanian and interestingly she claims similiar things like you ;D
 
but there is one point that both of you skip.. the economical/political system , applied in your country
and my wife's country also, was a compulsory dress of the cold war era , which those countries were
neither ready! nor voluntary! (this part required an analysis which I wrote and erased because not the correct place to argue) 
 
Briefly the system is dependant on 1-who applies it 2-how its applied and 3-under what conditions!!!
as these factors determine the result, there was little hope for it to be succesful in eastern europe
countries..
 
but even in worst case none of you were hungry nor jobless .. ;)
 
lets look at the opposite of that.. in the same era my country was dressed by the counter system (capitalist system) 
which the conditions of my country never permit.. but was forced to and many people jobless, starving and loosing all their properties to rich, and some powers (guess who! hint : stirrer was on other side of the ocean) were nearly able to start civil war between us.. only soldiers were able to stop that but in that period many people suffered long years in jail (interestingly these were all socialist people!)  so to cut the story short, in the end we loose all public utilities, many factories closed (that the young republic created), even agriculture dropped  , banks bankrupt, our money loose all its value, 
many people lost their jobs, and many work for a little money like slaves now and at the end a religious govt start to reverse all things backwards (guess who supports them! )  and god knows what will happen after..

so if you want to see which was better , I invite you to come and live here ;D :y
 
 
 
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« Reply #50 on: 22 November 2011, 21:28:42 »

Hmm...I would stay instead... ;) War was here several against mongols, against you turkeys, austrians and russians but civil war was once only - if I remember well - that was 500 yrs ago last. If brothers killed each other it's most terrible thing ever... :'( :'( :'(
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« Reply #51 on: 22 November 2011, 21:31:36 »

Hmm...I would stay instead... ;) War was here several against mongols, against you turkeys, austrians and russians but civil war was once only - if I remember well - that was 500 yrs ago last. If brothers killed each other it's most terrible thing ever... :'( :'( :'(

 
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« Reply #52 on: 22 November 2011, 21:34:28 »

Hmm...I would stay instead... ;) War was here several against mongols, against you turkeys, austrians and russians but civil war was once only - if I remember well - that was 500 yrs ago last. If brothers killed each other it's most terrible thing ever... :'( :'( :'(

 
 ;D ;D    ;) :y

Yess ! You WON !!!  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #53 on: 22 November 2011, 21:47:05 »

Hmm...I would stay instead... ;) War was here several against mongols, against you turkeys, austrians and russians but civil war was once only - if I remember well - that was 500 yrs ago last. If brothers killed each other it's most terrible thing ever... :'( :'( :'(

 
 ;D ;D    ;) :y

Yess ! You WON !!!  ;D ;D ;D

 
 
 ;D ;D ;D :y
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