Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Debs.]

Well, the pup-mobile misbehaved on cue at the meet today and Jimbob`s laptop was on the spot to capture the problem: it`s a code 19 again, and again.......and again.......and all the way home too!

Having fitted a new VX-sourced crank sensor about a month ago, I would never have imagined the pup-mobile`s ongoing low/no-idle and stalling issues would be continuing/worsening as the result of the new one being supplied as-faulty/failing......It was the first thing I changed when the car began misbehaving, too!

Jimbob also reset the 'wonky' idle trims whilst he was inside my ECU.

....at least the fault is now "identified" for sure.

[tunnie]

Someone else reported Vx sourced sensor letting go just a few months down line too 

You can easily tell from exhausts that quality has dipped, wonder if same can be said about electrical components 

[CaptainZok]

Sounds like the bean counters have been poking their noses in again.

[albitz]

Sounds like a warranty claim is needed.

[Jimbob]

Yes, when we 1st looked at it a few weeks ago, there was a 'non present' 19 stored....As expected due to a failed sensor.  At that time it was deleted and didnt come back while we played with the maf issue.
Today, a 'non present' 19 again, deleted.
Started car, it cut out, and NP 19 back again..Deleted
Started car, recorded diags, cut out, 19 Present appeared.

I think thats pretty conclusive.
Live data looked fine for everything else.

Reset the block learn data too for O2 and IAC, will be interesting to see what they do.
(Debs now has basic live data viewing capability)

[TheBoy]

even a NP 19 is a bad sign

[Elite Pete]

I had one a few months back. Vauxhall wouldn't swap the faulty sensor, they wanted the car in to do it themselves, if it was the sensor faulty there would be no charge for fitting. Lickily it turned out I was right and there was no charge.

[Debs.]

I had one a few months back. Vauxhall wouldn't swap the faulty sensor, they wanted the car in to do it themselves, if it was the sensor faulty there would be no charge for fitting. Lickily it turned out I was right and there was no charge.

  Trouble is, I simply haven`t got £90. to risk on their tests: in case they assert the crank sensor is not at fault (even though I/we know it is!).....it`d be my bad-luck for them to say otherwise.

If my car wont start (as of this morning), how can I get it to the dealers anyway? .......all I can do is take off the 'new' sensor and take it (with the receipt) by train/bus to a VX dealer.......although it`s now not possible to return it to the dealer I purchased the sensor from; that Lookers branch (Wallasey) was closing-down at the end of the week that I went there!

[dbug]

Had the same Debs a while back - my Elite wouldn't start, code 19.  Fitted a new Vx crank sensor - car started immediately.  All OK for around 1 month - then car wouldn't start - code 19 again.  Took faulty one back to Vx for exchange - was told refit to car and get car to Vx - if they found it to be faulty they would swap it foc.  So for a £50 sensor I have to refit the faulty one and get my car transported 12 miles to get my £50 back - its bo**ocks - and they know it - paid the £50 for a new one, fitted it and its been ok since.

[albitz]

It may be worth someone sending Debs a known good used sensor.Far from ideal I know,but in the circumstances......
It would at least prove the theory of dodgy sensor and may help when dealing with VX customer disservice department.

[Debs.]

It may be worth someone sending Debs a known good used sensor.Far from ideal I know,but in the circumstances......
It would at least prove the theory of dodgy sensor and may help when dealing with VX customer disservice department.

Good idea Albs.
I spoke with the nearest dealer`s parts counter (early doors at 8.30a.m) and they said the car would have to come to them to be 'proven' to have a faulty component under part`s warranty, but as it wont start now, I`m clearly on my own!
.....I`ll try posting in the 'parts wanted' for a used/good crank sensor (after I`ve checked which plug it has fitted).

[dbug]

It may be worth someone sending Debs a known good used sensor.Far from ideal I know,but in the circumstances......
It would at least prove the theory of dodgy sensor and may help when dealing with VX customer disservice department.

Good idea Albs.
I spoke with the nearest dealer`s parts counter (early doors at 8.30a.m) and they said the car would have to come to them to be 'proven' to have a faulty component under part`s warranty, but as it wont start now, I`m clearly on my own!
.....I`ll try posting in the 'parts wanted' for a used/good crank sensor (after I`ve checked which plug it has fitted).

Yours should be oval plug Debs 

[jonnycool]

By 'oval', do you mean rectangular with rounded corners?

If so, I have a genuine spare known working one here, it has 0261210 stamped on it if this helps identification

Jon

[Debs.]

By 'oval', do you mean rectangular with rounded corners?

If so, I have a genuine spare known working one here, it has 0261210 stamped on it if this helps identification

Jon

Hiya Jon,
Images below of the plug on my 'original' faulty crank-sensor.
The easily identifiable facet of this one (compared to the 'wrong' one) is the two protruding 'lugs' on either side of the front-outer edge of the plug.....This 'correct' plug is internally polarised (with channels) whilst the 'wrong' part has polarising ridges on the two longest outer sides and it is generally "more rectangular" in form.
.....keeping fingers crossed here!

[dbug]

By 'oval', do you mean rectangular with rounded corners?

If so, I have a genuine spare known working one here, it has 0261210 stamped on it if this helps identification

Jon

Hiya Jon,
Images below of the plug on my 'original' faulty crank-sensor.
The easily identifiable facet of this one (compared to the 'wrong' one) is the two protruding 'lugs' on either side of the front-outer edge of the plug.....This 'correct' plug is internally polarised (with channels) whilst the 'wrong' part has polarising ridges on the two longest outer sides and it is generally "more rectangular" in form.
.....keeping fingers crossed here!

Yep thats the "oval" one Debs - the rectangular on has square corners