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[Webby the Bear]

Hi All, Bear hopes you're well.

I posted recently about my interest in doing a mechanics course. Well, after much difficulty in finding a suitable one for a novice I've got it!

See below for the course specification...... (you'll note the College in the link is Buxton. However, I'll actually be doing the exact same at Tresham in Kettering; it's just because the Tresham site doesn't show the spec for some reason  )

http://www.buxtoncollege.ac.uk/abc-level-1-in-vehicle-maintenance-and-repair-light-vehicle

Anyway, the whole point of this is twofold: 1.) I've always been interested in cars and mechanics but never had a guiding hand (until I joined this site) and 2.) For far too long I've been at a crossroads in my current job where if I settle for this forever and don't do something interesting I'm going to regret it and ultimately end up in a mental facility.

So... now I've found the course (which starts May next year I'm told) what am I to do in preperation in the mean time? Well, I've been trawling the Maintenance Guides here and although a lot of it is beyond me due to obvious lack of knowledge and experience I feel I'm getting a better basic (very basic in fact) understanding. I've also been looking at videos on the net of certain procedures.

I figure if I can get to the point where I can do some of my own servicing then that will give me a good springboard. This brings me on to my maintenance question. I've understood most of it but for the life of me I can't find an image of the underside of an Omega where the oil drainage and oil filter is located. If I've missed it from the guide then I'm very sorry but has anyone got a pic or link?

Anyway, that's it for now. I will update in the future time............ and God help Daz when I go to him Thursday; I have over a thousand Q's 

Cheers.

[Andy B]

..... but for the life of me I can't find an image of the underside of an Omega where the oil drainage and oil filter is located.  ....

Oil filter is, surprising, not at the bottom of the engine, it's towards the top on the passenger side.

Oil drain is right at the very bottom of the engine, Torx drive & the plug is about the size of a 10p piece. 

[Webby the Bear]

..... but for the life of me I can't find an image of the underside of an Omega where the oil drainage and oil filter is located.  ....

Oil filter is, surprising, not at the bottom of the engine, it's towards the top on the passenger side.

Oil drain is right at the very bottom of the engine, Torx drive & the plug is about the size of a 10p piece. 

Thanks Andy. Is it a simple job to do as per the videos on Youtube? E.g. Warm engine, open drain, screw back up and fill with new oil?

[marrus69]

ill get some pics up.replace washer with new on drain plug could be brass or rubber

[Andy B]

..... but for the life of me I can't find an image of the underside of an Omega where the oil drainage and oil filter is located.  ....

Oil filter is, surprising, not at the bottom of the engine, it's towards the top on the passenger side.

Oil drain is right at the very bottom of the engine, Torx drive & the plug is about the size of a 10p piece. 

Thanks Andy. Is it a simple job to do as per the videos on Youtube? E.g. Warm engine, open drain, screw back up and fill with new oil?

Yes, exactly as you describe. Dead simple.  The sump plug uses an O ring behind the  head, you'll need a new one if th eold one is goosed, but you'll generally find the old seal will be OK. 

[tunnie]

ill get some pics up.replace washer with new on drain plug could be brass or rubber

Facelifts have rubber ones, just nipped up as well to 12Nm

[Dishevelled Den]

Well done Bear, I'll look forward to reading of your progress - good luck with the course.

[TheBoy]

..... but for the life of me I can't find an image of the underside of an Omega where the oil drainage and oil filter is located.  ....

Oil filter is, surprising, not at the bottom of the engine, it's towards the top on the passenger side.

Oil drain is right at the very bottom of the engine, Torx drive & the plug is about the size of a 10p piece. 

Thanks Andy. Is it a simple job to do as per the videos on Youtube? E.g. Warm engine, open drain, screw back up and fill with new oil?

Yes, exactly as you describe. Dead simple.  The sump plug uses an O ring behind the  head, you'll need a new one if th eold one is goosed, but you'll generally find the old seal will be OK. 

Thats minifacelift onwards. Pre minifacelift use the older copper washer, which should be renewed (or annealed etc).

The rubber seals do benefit being replaced every few changes, seeing as the are about 20p, and a sump full of oil if it leaks is about £12


1999 onwards use paper element filters, which if haven't been done recently, will be a barsteward.

[TheBoy]

Webby the Bear - I am down the A43 from Northampton, if you want someone to guide you through the first time you do it...

...but I won't do it for you, you will have to do it under guidance

[Webby the Bear]

Thanks all for your posts guys 

This is going to sound stupid but I'll ask it anyway  In the video for the oil change the car is on a special ramp so the camera and narrator can of course get right under the car and show you what's going on.

As I don't have that luxury how am I to get under the car to do it?

Also, Tunnie you mention screwing drainage cap to 12nm. Is there a ''multi-purpose'' hand wrench I can purchase with different torque settings? Or do I have to purchase a drill with various screw bits? Just thinking I'm going to need basic tools at some point 

Thanks again everyone

[tunnie]

Torque Wrench:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_178843_langId_-1_categoryId_165469

Its considerably cheaper on trade, more like £40. I have a trade card here, your welcome to use it, but you'd be better off paying cash as they might check name on trade card against who is paying.

You will need axle stands to support the car while under it, never go underneath a car which is supported solely by a jack.

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_216002_langId_-1_categoryId_255207

Done little search, nice little kit here which includes jack + stands. Not the best, but its good enough to get you started.

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_817643_langId_-1_categoryId_255207

You also really want to buy this when its on offer:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_173083_langId_-1_categoryId_255215

Its similar to normal trade price, bar a few adaptors i has nearly everything you need to strip a V6 down, I have this set. Started like you, did not have a feking clue how to change oil...

[Webby the Bear]

Webby the Bear - I am down the A43 from Northampton, if you want someone to guide you through the first time you do it...

...but I won't do it for you, you will have to do it under guidance

  Thanks for the offer mate

I am actually booked in with Daz for a (car!) service tomorrow so I'm hoping to get a bit of practical knowledge then. But I'm darn sure I'll need some guidance in the future if that's ok?

 

[tunnie]

Also want one of these, makes it much easier to empty old oil into a suitable 20L drum:

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/14-litre-oil-drain-pan?da=1&TC=SRC-oil%20pan

[Webby the Bear]

Torque Wrench:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_178843_langId_-1_categoryId_165469

Its considerably cheaper on trade, more like £40. I have a trade card here, your welcome to use it, but you'd be better off paying cash as they might check name on trade card against who is paying.

You will need axle stands to support the car while under it, never go underneath a car which is supported solely by a jack.

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_216002_langId_-1_categoryId_255207

Done little search, nice little kit here which includes jack + stands. Not the best, but its good enough to get you started.

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_817643_langId_-1_categoryId_255207

You also really want to buy this when its on offer:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_173083_langId_-1_categoryId_255215

Its similar to normal trade price, bar a few adaptors i has nearly everything you need to strip a V6 down, I have this set. Started like you, did not have a feking clue how to change oil...

mate, thats really bloody helpful. thanks very much!!!!

with the stands, is it simply a case of jacking it up one side and applying stand....then  same other side? i know it says ''axel'' stands but is this where they're positioned when in place? sorry if tht sounds stupid 

That boxed tool kit looks pretty handy. I envisaged initial expenditure to be in to the millions  but if i can get started for a few hundred it will be well worth it. I mean obviously at first on the course everything is supplied but of course I'm going to want to do stuff at home! 

[Darth Loo-knee]

Webby the Bear - I am down the A43 from Northampton, if you want someone to guide you through the first time you do it...

...but I won't do it for you, you will have to do it under guidance

  Thanks for the offer mate

I am actually booked in with Daz for a (car!) service tomorrow so I'm hoping to get a bit of practical knowledge then. But I'm darn sure I'll need some guidance in the future if that's ok?

 

I am gonna sog some Tangled Foot in me tonight then to get me ready for tomorrow