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[albitz]

What percentage of members actually bothered to vote in this ballot ?

imo most people are just rather sheep who follow the one with the biggest mouth 

I know of 2 teachers who because they knew there school was shut today, pulled a sicky ( on full pay ) yesterday and went down to southampton to watch a football match and stopped over night 

No doubt they will be driving up the M1 this morning at highly illegal speeds so they can join there brothers on the picket line 

76% or thereabouts in favour
A doctors, even if private, fit note will have to be provided or they will not get paid....

76% of those who voted were in favour, but at least 65% of members didnt vote at all.

[Vamps]

What percentage of members actually bothered to vote in this ballot ?

imo most people are just rather sheep who follow the one with the biggest mouth 

I know of 2 teachers who because they knew there school was shut today, pulled a sicky ( on full pay ) yesterday and went down to southampton to watch a football match and stopped over night 

No doubt they will be driving up the M1 this morning at highly illegal speeds so they can join there brothers on the picket line 

76% or thereabouts in favour
A doctors, even if private, fit note will have to be provided or they will not get paid....

76% of those who voted were in favour, but at least 65% of members didnt vote at all.

Wrong......for Unison anyway.....

[albitz]

what percentage of the membership voted in the Unison ballot then Vamps? 

According to the Beeb it was 29%.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15570669

So it was actually 71% of members who didnt vote at all. The law needs changing to back the hardliners into a corner.

[albitz]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/11/30/jeremy-clarkson-shoot-striking-public-sector-workers_n_1121500.html?ncid=webmail1

Looks like Clarkson has upset a few people.

[Nickbat]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/11/30/jeremy-clarkson-shoot-striking-public-sector-workers_n_1121500.html?ncid=webmail1

Looks like Clarkson has upset a few people.

Proof that a sense of humour has no place in this politically-correct world. Anyone that isn't oligophrenic would have seen his comments as a barbed jest and taken it as such. 

[Vamps]

what percentage of the membership voted in the Unison ballot then Vamps? 

According to the Beeb it was 29%.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15570669

So it was actually 71% of members who didnt vote at all. The law needs changing to back the hardliners into a corner.

Locally
Votes cast.......196,554
Yes votes........149,522
No votes...........46,563
Spoilt papers......469

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[albitz]

Thats locally not nationally,and it doesnt mention the total number of members,so no way of working out what percentage didnt vote.

[Vamps]

Thats locally not nationally,and it doesnt mention the total number of members,so no way of working out what percentage didnt vote.

Whatever, I was at work......

[albitz]

So, I wasnt wrong then ? 

[Vamps]

So, I wasnt wrong then ? 

But where you right?
To be honest all this is new to me, never been on strike, but had official dispensation to be in work under life and limb response, of which there was no calls......

[05omegav6]

76% of those who voted were in favour, but at least 65% of members didnt vote at all.

Sounds like the last 2 elections that labour won

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/11/30/jeremy-clarkson-shoot-striking-public-sector-workers_n_1121500.html?ncid=webmail1

Looks like Clarkson has upset a few people.

Proof that a sense of humour has no place in this politically-correct world. Anyone that isn't oligophrenic would have seen his comments as a barbed jest and taken it as such. 

At least the weather was nice for them.

[999gsi]

Bionic,i have to say that your post is a little unfair,and appears written with out knowledge of the subject. .I get fed up listening to the media stating how wonderful public pensions are and how much they payout,As a scummy public sector worker i have been paying onto a pension for the past 20yrs(im now 39),the government is proposing i now work and pay into a pension till im 67 and pay an extra £280 a month every month...As an already burnt out Critical Care Paramedic Who regularly works 14hr days and nites pandering to the needs of a very selfish and demanding public,im expected to work longer,pay more but end up with a lower final pension..I cant see many 67yr old men wanting to be dealing with violent druggies,pixxed people,climbing into waterfilled ditches on a rainy pitch black early morning to pull someone from an overturned car etc etc can you ??.the private sector pays well,some get perks,staff discounts,xmas bonuses,shares,dividends,i get  abuse and complaints.i havent had a pay rise for 2 years but the cost of living has gone through the roof....Im not in a union and unlike a large number in the ambulance/nhs i didnt walk out at midnight to go on strike......People need to look at the whole picture and by the way,it REALLY gets on my tXXs when people say to me..."i pay your wages cos im a tax payer"..i also pay a lot of tax every month..

One final thought...The whole country had a day off for the royal wedding this year but no one minded...A small percentage go on strike and there is outrage....Double standards...

Glad thats off my chest.its 0320 im at work, on my break...

[Bionic]

First and foremost my comments were aimed at the union members who care so little for anyone else. 'Scummy Public Sector worker'  Why are working for it them if you can describe it as that?
Self pity will get you no respect at all. Are you the only one who has seen the same circumstances affect their lives? No you are not! We are all suffering and no-one made you choose your occupation, it was your choice. Your choice means that you cannot complain because it has turned out not to be the bed of roses you expected. If you are as you state, 'burnt out' then why are you remaining in the job you feel is harming your health?
I cant see many 67yr old men wanting to be dealing with violent druggies,pixxed people,climbing into waterfilled ditches on a rainy pitch black early morning to pull someone from an overturned car etc etc can you
I have done pretty much the same work as you and also seen death and the results of a hard death at close hand, then had to 'mop' up the aftermath. I am now retired, not an early retirement either,  after working far longer hours than you for many years of my employment, an employment history during which I lost very few days through sickness or other reasons. Who cares what you think, I speak personally from many years experience of watching my taxes pay for the overgenerous pensions of those parasites who call themselves PUBLIC service workers. It is high time that they were made to subsidise and pay for their own pensions themselves and not have to constantly demand that we, the ones who they are supposed to work for, pay for them through the nose via our taxes!
What makes them so special that they should receive a better pension than anyone else in the private sector. The private sector should not have to subsidise the public sector at all.
Would the public sector agree to fund the pensions of the private sector? A big fat no to that one I bet!
Fair is fair and the public sector pension fiasco is not fair at all.
 

[mantahatch]

what percentage of the membership voted in the Unison ballot then Vamps? 

According to the Beeb it was 29%.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15570669

So it was actually 71% of members who didnt vote at all. The law needs changing to back the hardliners into a corner.

You have to bear in mind governments and business have for years used the none voter as "seen to be agreeing" to whatever is decided, so why can't the unions do the same ?

[hoofing it]

Dont particularly agree with these strikes or there causes, but on the other hand at least someone has the backbone to stand up against the Government who have had there way whilst ignoring the working man for to long, its about time they started to experience some sort backlash//........

Yes, I think your piece very much describes the motivating factors behind what may well become the Cri de Coeur of people when they take to the streets, in number, in an effort to express their frustration and dissatisfaction.

I'm of the opinion there is ample evidence to suggest that, in the coming years, civil disturbances will become the norm rather than the exception as people organise in a determined fashion as they experience a deteriorating standard of living with little prospect of any improvement in the near future. 

More especially so when those at the top table of this society continue to sup handsomely on the best that the land provides.

So much for - ‘We’re all in this together’.

Here here next this country should consider a national strike about the cost off Diesel and petrol before no-one can afford to take there cars to work there for giving up work and this society we know today will revert back to the days when only the rich can afford to own a car.
As of next year the cost off fuel is going to increase by 8-25p a litre