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[Richie London]

Last time i removed artex i used a wallpaper steamer. didn't take that long to be honest then tape and jointed the joints. not a big job and once you get going with a good steamer comes off easy

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'd just paint it, as it looks quite nice really and it's a retro feature!!    It won't be long before it comes back into fashion and Mrs H21 will be saying 'I wish you hadn't got rid of all that lovely artex!!' 

[paul.lovejoy]

reading all the posts most are advising to over board and skim which is what we always do if a client asked me to just skim over the ceiling i would walk away from the job to be honest not worth the risk. your reliant on the platser sticking to the artex which in turn must be securley stuck to the board and if the artex has cracks from movement you can bet your bum the skim will crack there in due course

on artex we use 12mm plaster board screwed tape all joints and skim with mult finish and as some one did mention it is a 2 coat operation  dont think the 12mm plaster board would be a problem carrying over your artex its not that bumpy

you also benifit from additional fire seperation from the extra layer of plaster board...good sales pitch

[MaxV6]

i'm with Paul,  skimming straight on the artex is a bad idea.....   you're almost a dead cert to get patches blown like that, 


stripping it off is usually a workable , if slightly masochistic , plan,   steam strippers do tend to work fairly well , although it depends on the age and product as to how quickly it comes off,    then you get to have a closer look at what's behind it,  and can make an informed decision on whether to renew the ceiling completely, or skim finish what's there.....     

i dislike the trend of slapping new boards over it instead of actually doing it properly.....  yeah, it's easier, quicker, but it's a half assed job, and you DO lose ceiling height,   by at least 3/4 of an inch,  which may not be much, but in a room with fairly low (in comparison to the 10-11 foot jobbies in victorian/edwardian premises) ceilings, that does have a psychological impact....


you wouldn't service yer miggy like that,  so why your house?

[Richie London]

i'm with Paul,  skimming straight on the artex is a bad idea.....   you're almost a dead cert to get patches blown like that, 


stripping it off is usually a workable , if slightly masochistic , plan,   steam strippers do tend to work fairly well , although it depends on the age and product as to how quickly it comes off,    then you get to have a closer look at what's behind it,  and can make an informed decision on whether to renew the ceiling completely, or skim finish what's there.....     

i dislike the trend of slapping new boards over it instead of actually doing it properly.....  yeah, it's easier, quicker, but it's a half assed job, and you DO lose ceiling height,   by at least 3/4 of an inch,  which may not be much, but in a room with fairly low (in comparison to the 10-11 foot jobbies in victorian/edwardian premises) ceilings, that does have a psychological impact....


you wouldn't service yer miggy like that,  so why your house?

its the cost of the boards, the time boarding also finding the joists which is ok if the distances between joists is equal all the way through then the skimming. being a shopfitter I've been there loads of times and its always a pain boarding over another ceiling

[paul.lovejoy]

been in shop fitting for over 30 years    always strip out but now a local yocal bob the rather builder type ( marriage does that to you) generally people  want the cheapest but best option

most expensive but best to strip out start again on most things plus on ceilings  i like to nog out at all joint even tape still cracks if the boards move

plus strip out and replace the lighting with down lights another sales pitch

who you working for Richie ( dont become a builder it sucks)

[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

Artex isn't in fashionable any more? >looks at ceilings in entire 3-bed house< >sulks<

[marrus69]

When we bought our present house it was a mortgage repo and needed decoration top to toe.  And it got it.

The then current fashion 'must have' was artexed ceilings. Managed to dissuade her from artex on the walls, thank goodness but she managed to get all (and I mean ALL) roofs done in a 4 bed house....).

Question is, looks fine in bedrooms and toilets and stuff, but the lounge/dining room needs re-decorated overall.  Would it be easier but messier to remove plasterboard roofing panels in entirety or knock biggest lumps off and simply place new boards on top of existing?  House is 1960's ex-council stylee - big rooms but bog standard ceiling height - so, what does the group experience of OOF recommend?

I know what I intend to do but interested in the 'professional'/experienced DIY type comments...   

Easiest way B

I've had a couple of artrex ceilings covered over with new boards.....mind...i did have a plasterer to do it....he suggested it was quickest and easiest for him....and you carnt tell its a 'false' ceiling tbh....But i think it depends whats behind the artex......my ceilings were the old wood lattice type....so the plasterer didnt need to discover where the joists were....to get a good hold for the plasterboard screws......tho i guess with a pointed screwdriver it wouldnt take long to find the joists 

best way if you ask me.

[bored bigyin54]

i put tongue and grove on mine just varnish them now and again beats council artex

[Taxi_Driver]

i'm with Paul,  skimming straight on the artex is a bad idea.....   you're almost a dead cert to get patches blown like that, 


stripping it off is usually a workable , if slightly masochistic , plan,   steam strippers do tend to work fairly well , although it depends on the age and product as to how quickly it comes off,    then you get to have a closer look at what's behind it,  and can make an informed decision on whether to renew the ceiling completely, or skim finish what's there.....     

i dislike the trend of slapping new boards over it instead of actually doing it properly.....  yeah, it's easier, quicker, but it's a half assed job, and you DO lose ceiling height,   by at least 3/4 of an inch,  which may not be much, but in a room with fairly low (in comparison to the 10-11 foot jobbies in victorian/edwardian premises) ceilings, that does have a psychological impact....


you wouldn't service yer miggy like that,  so why your house?

Altho i dont own an Omega any more.....i think thats an unfair comparision.....

My ceiling height is more than current new builds.....and can afford to loose an inch or two....

 

[PhilRich]

Slacken off the nut on the  cold feed to the ballvalve in the loft header tank, go away for the weekend & ring the Insurance Company on Monday morning! Job Sorted!!

[dad1uk]

Slacken off the nut on the  cold feed to the ballvalve in the loft header tank, go away for the weekend & ring the Insurance Company on Monday morning! Job Sorted!!

naughty 

but nice and easy plus you may get new carpets

[Richie London]

been in shop fitting for over 30 years    always strip out but now a local yocal bob the rather builder type ( marriage does that to you) generally people  want the cheapest but best option

most expensive but best to strip out start again on most things plus on ceilings  i like to nog out at all joint even tape still cracks if the boards move

plus strip out and replace the lighting with down lights another sales pitch

who you working for Richie ( dont become a builder it sucks)

i work for agencies mostly now but worked for john Richards shoplifting for years and centrefurb. I've done building work but dont like it and also property maintenance which is a pain as they seem to want you to do every chore in there house for free. i put a free listing on yell.com which i get a bit of work from and private work but i love shoplifting as its the best  laugh going. don't see no poles shoplifting no more as there so useless but the rates are a lot lower no because pf them.

[paul.lovejoy]

been in shop fitting for over 30 years    always strip out but now a local yocal bob the rather builder type ( marriage does that to you) generally people  want the cheapest but best option

most expensive but best to strip out start again on most things plus on ceilings  i like to nog out at all joint even tape still cracks if the boards move

plus strip out and replace the lighting with down lights another sales pitch

who you working for Richie ( dont become a builder it sucks)

i work for agencies mostly now but worked for john Richards shoplifting for years and centrefurb. I've done building work but dont like it and also property maintenance which is a pain as they seem to want you to do every chore in there house for free. i put a free listing on yell.com which i get a bit of work from and private work but i love shoplifting as its the best  laugh going. don't see no poles shoplifting no more as there so useless but the rates are a lot lower no because pf them.

totally agree and as for the rates now gone back years same everywhere But london was always top dollar now its shite we moved from Northolt about 3 years ago i was a contracts manager for newmans till they went under but when i looked at the rates for fixing etc and jobs that were around we had to come back down south and give up the wifes council flat 

Love to come back into it one day but at the moment when you work out whats on offer and take away travelling etc from Ramsgate the end of the world the finances just dont add up. All sections of the industry has suffered with dramatic rate cuts and sadly dont see a rise for years to come the damage has been done

Wifeys happy that i am local though so not all doom and gloom butsome days i wish

[Richie London]

been in shop fitting for over 30 years    always strip out but now a local yocal bob the rather builder type ( marriage does that to you) generally people  want the cheapest but best option

most expensive but best to strip out start again on most things plus on ceilings  i like to nog out at all joint even tape still cracks if the boards move

plus strip out and replace the lighting with down lights another sales pitch

who you working for Richie ( dont become a builder it sucks)

i work for agencies mostly now but worked for john Richards shoplifting for years and centrefurb. I've done building work but dont like it and also property maintenance which is a pain as they seem to want you to do every chore in there house for free. i put a free listing on yell.com which i get a bit of work from and private work but i love shoplifting as its the best  laugh going. don't see no poles shoplifting no more as there so useless but the rates are a lot lower no because pf them.

totally agree and as for the rates now gone back years same everywhere But london was always top dollar now its shite we moved from Northolt about 3 years ago i was a contracts manager for newmans till they went under but when i looked at the rates for fixing etc and jobs that were around we had to come back down south and give up the wifes council flat 

Love to come back into it one day but at the moment when you work out whats on offer and take away travelling etc from Ramsgate the end of the world the finances just dont add up. All sections of the industry has suffered with dramatic rate cuts and sadly dont see a rise for years to come the damage has been done

Wifeys happy that i am local though so not all doom and gloom butsome days i wish

do i not know you then. i was born and bred in northolt. lived there till i was 32. still drink in the white hart and the civil engineer all the time.