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[feeutfo]

When Hs2 is built? 

 How the hell can we afford this? Job creation, improved service, but we're skint
, and straight through the Chlterns ... 

[omega3000]

  Just what i thought ...they can find the money when they want to 

[the alarming man]

and it is going to take from 2014 to 2026........

[Shackeng]

Better spent on a new London airport IMHO, which will HAVE to be built eventually, and for which much private investment awaits.

[tidla]

about time they created some work for the private sector. we are years behind other countries when it comes to rail travel.

the trouble is that with rail fair prices constantly increasing,  no bugger will be able to afford to travel on it by the time its built.

so much for green public transport.

[feeutfo]

Reading station getting massive makeover, again. Two major traffic bottle necks removed with two new higher wider bridges. More platforms, another smaller station, blah blah. North Reading town centre re developed, access to the river. Yah.

Been in planning for ages I guess.

[Terbs]

This was signed, sealed and delivered before the public knew anything about it
Probably lots of pockets lined, as is the norm.
And we can do nothing about it and don't give me the crap about the ballot box......there are them and us...simples

[feeutfo]

Consultation is bolbox. Yes we'll consult, give everyone the idea they have a say or that they can make a difference... Then plough ahead anyway. Works council style.

But then, job creation etc....

[adey2]

by the time its built branson will be doing his space trips and may be cheaper too to go on one

[albitz]

Iirc the cost has been put at £32 billion.Will be interesting to see what the total is at the end of the job. Usually, these things end up costing many times more than the original figure,due to ending up as a gravy train driven by govt. types who have no clue about how to be businesslike.
Hence the end cost of the Olympics,the big tent in Greenwich etc.

[blackviper90210]

£32billion for a new train service that'll take longer to build than it will take to sort the middle east out......mmmmm.  Could we not use that money to pay off our debts or invest in better services that we already have and are in desperate need of bringing out of the Victorian Age?

No no no, that would be too bloody sensible and I do believe they missed a "1" off the front of the 32     More like £132billion at the end

[Dishevelled Den]

This was signed, sealed and delivered before the public knew anything about it
Probably lots of pockets lined, as is the norm.
And we can do nothing about it and don't give me the crap about the ballot box......there are them and us...simples

I certainly agree with that one Terb.

[feeutfo]

Lets hope the recession has turned round by then aye....

[Dishevelled Den]

£32billion for a new train service that'll take longer to build than it will take to sort the middle east out......mmmmm.  Could we not use that money to pay off our debts or invest in better services that we already have and are in desperate need of bringing out of the Victorian Age?

No no no, that would be too bloody sensible and I do believe they missed a "1" off the front of the 32     More like £132billion at the end

You're a heartless sod 'Viper

That kind of radical opinion will only disappoint those lobbyists, politicians and self-interest groups who toiled for so long behind the scenes in the expectation of some financial advantage filtering down from such a project.

Think of their human rights and potential psychological damage should they suddenly realize that all their work was expected to have ultimately been of benefit to the country and those travellers using such a service rather than their own bank accounts.

As for the inevitable ballooning cost of the project? - we are in the age of plenty (if current spending is anything to go by) and any overspend can be accommodated by the government of the day simply making more money available to take care of it then recouping the costs from the souls who will have to use the service and, invariably, from the motorists who will face yet more costs in the name of 'environmental' concerns while being lectured of how they are bringing the country to its knees while cruelly raping the environment in the process.

[Dishevelled Den]

about time they created some work for the private sector. we are years behind other countries when it comes to rail travel.

the trouble is that with rail fair prices constantly increasing,  no bugger will be able to afford to travel on it by the time its built.

so much for green public transport.

Yes, I would also agree with that one Tid.


with rail fair prices constantly increasing

Therein lurks the problem - mass transport should be safe, dependable and, above anything else, affordable.

Those who operate public transport services in this country have a tendency to put overall profit before much else and the way recent governments have dealt with this - and other aspects of critical infrastructure - (in terms of national security and overall strategy) one would have though that it didn't matter too much.