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[millwall]

I am getting extremly sick of the two tier UK, when the Scots can use UK money to subsidise their students and their prescriptions...

Also how the Scots MPs can vote on our laws, but we can't vote on theirs.. more Labour inequality....

Another  Labour travesty...

So, part of me says, fck em and goodbye....

but then would it be better to stick together and be united  albeit with a few changes  im 50 50 at the moment  thoughts please particuarly from any scotsmen 

[TheBoy]

I'm sure Westminster enjoys the taxes and duties paid by the Scots


Personally, I think we are stronger as the UK, but fully understand their frustrations with decisions made in Westminster that only seem to benefit London people.  I'm equally miffed with it...

[geoffr70]

It does seem strange that at the same time we have devolution, but are also being forced into an EU superstate.

[albitz]

I'm sure Westminster enjoys the taxes and duties paid by the Scots


Personally, I think we are stronger as the UK, but fully understand their frustrations with decisions made in Westminster that only seem to benefit London people.  I'm equally miffed with it...

I think you will find theres much much more £ flowing north  than there is coming South.
Rightly or wrongly - Afaik taxpayers in London and an area of 50 or so miles around it subsidise the rest of the UK to a greater or lesser degree.

Personally,Im in favour of the union,on the condition that the Scottish/Welsh/N.I. parliaments are got rid off. At the moment. imo the pendulum has swung much to far in favour of the regions - prescriptions,uni fees etc.....
If we are to be a United Kingdom,we should all be governed by the mother of parliaments in Westminster, or call it a day and go our seperate ways with no alimony expected. Too much having cake and eating it presently imo.

Furthermore,very few decisions made in Westminster having an effect on Scotland, but Scottish MP,s sit at Westminster (as Prime minister until recently) and make decisions which apply in England,but not in Scotland - that is just plain wrong,unfair and completely undemocratic.

[Rods2]

No Scottish MPs in Westminster, Labour would never get in again, now after the damage the last bunch of charlatans have caused that sounds attractive. 

An hours extra daylight in the evening. Now that sounds attractive. 

The extra jobs created in rebuilding Hadrian's wall. A much better investment than HS2.  Now that sounds attractive.

But despite all of that we would miss you Scotland. The football and the rugby would not be quite the same. 

[hoofing it]

I am getting extremly sick of the two tier UK, when the Scots can use UK money to subsidise their students and their prescriptions...

Also how the Scots MPs can vote on our laws, but we can't vote on theirs.. more Labour inequality....

Another  Labour travesty...

So, part of me says, fck em and goodbye....

but then would it be better to stick together and be united  albeit with a few changes  im 50 50 at the moment  thoughts please particuarly from any scotsmen 

Its about time we screwed some cash back that b*t*h Thatcher shafted us up here north of the border then closed down our industries (Ravenscraig,Dalzeil,Leyland trucks Bathgate,Hilman Linwood etc)so you either like it or lump it
As for independance no chance were here to stay

[the alarming man]

if scotland want too be on their own let them do it...and they can take that poxy bank with them..

[TheBoy]

I am getting extremly sick of the two tier UK, when the Scots can use UK money to subsidise their students and their prescriptions...

Also how the Scots MPs can vote on our laws, but we can't vote on theirs.. more Labour inequality....

Another  Labour travesty...

So, part of me says, fck em and goodbye....

but then would it be better to stick together and be united  albeit with a few changes  im 50 50 at the moment  thoughts please particuarly from any scotsmen 

Its about time we screwed some cash back that b*t*h Thatcher shafted us up here north of the border then closed down our industries (Ravenscraig,Dalzeil,Leyland trucks Bathgate,Hilman Linwood etc)so you either like it or lump it
As for independance no chance were here to stay

Subsequent goverments have also dessimated English businesses as well - the last Labour lot were intend on wiping out all manufacturing in the entire UK...

[hoofing it]

I am getting extremly sick of the two tier UK, when the Scots can use UK money to subsidise their students and their prescriptions...

Also how the Scots MPs can vote on our laws, but we can't vote on theirs.. more Labour inequality....

Another  Labour travesty...

So, part of me says, fck em and goodbye....

but then would it be better to stick together and be united  albeit with a few changes  im 50 50 at the moment  thoughts please particuarly from any scotsmen 

Its about time we screwed some cash back that b*t*h Thatcher shafted us up here north of the border then closed down our industries (Ravenscraig,Dalzeil,Leyland trucks Bathgate,Hilman Linwood etc)so you either like it or lump it
As for independance no chance were here to stay

Subsequent goverments have also dessimated English businesses as well - the last Labour lot were intend on wiping out all manufacturing in the entire UK...

Thats true. The poll tax was the final sore point up here. As for labour Fred Goodwin made sure Tony Blairs bank account was healthy.
God wheres Jeremy WankstainClarkson when you need him

[omega3000]

Let em get on with it .. fat salmon has it all under control 

[albitz]

I am getting extremly sick of the two tier UK, when the Scots can use UK money to subsidise their students and their prescriptions...

Also how the Scots MPs can vote on our laws, but we can't vote on theirs.. more Labour inequality....

Another  Labour travesty...

So, part of me says, fck em and goodbye....

but then would it be better to stick together and be united  albeit with a few changes  im 50 50 at the moment  thoughts please particuarly from any scotsmen 

Its about time we screwed some cash back that b*t*h Thatcher shafted us up here north of the border then closed down our industries (Ravenscraig,Dalzeil,Leyland trucks Bathgate,Hilman Linwood etc)so you either like it or lump it
As for independance no chance were here to stay

That was 30 years ago,and was by no means confined to Scotland.The industries were also hoplessly uncompetitive,due in part at least, to militant unionism among the workforces,who thought their employers owed them a living and had no concern for the fact that huge payrises (and countless days of strikes to achieve them) made it impossible to compete in world markets and made the UK a laughing stock in the global industrial community.
It doesnt give anyone a right to believe they should be able to live of other peoples tax contributions today,imo.

United Kingdom,governed from Westminster,with the same rules for all citizens is the only fair and just way to proceed.

[cleggy]

No Scottish MP's at Westminster now that would be a bonus. 

The only down side I see is that the skirt wears might put an English duty on Edradour

When all is considered then The UK is better with them, as for Northern Ireland

Same rules for all tho' them damn whities dividing to conquer    

[Dishevelled Den]

I'm sure Westminster enjoys the taxes and duties paid by the Scots 


Personally, I think we are stronger as the UK, but fully understand their frustrations with decisions made in Westminster that only seem to benefit London people.  I'm equally miffed with it...

Personally,Im in favour of the union,on the condition that the Scottish/Welsh/N.I. parliaments are got rid off. At the moment. imo the pendulum has swung much to far in favour of the regions - prescriptions,uni fees etc.....

If we are to be a United Kingdom,we should all be governed by the mother of parliaments in Westminster, or call it a day and go our seperate ways with no alimony expected. Too much having cake and eating it presently imo.

-

Yes, I would certainly agree with that one son, especially when one considers the standard of representation available at these regional assemblies (overt nationalists, dreamers, backwoodsmen, mouth-breathers, unrepentant terrorists inter alia)

It's bad enough trying to deal with the dross at Westminster but that imposition, when multiplied by three assemblies, JesuChri.

[Sir Tigger KC]

If there is to be a referendum then it should be UK wide and the question should be: Do you want the UK to cease to exist? Yes or No 

In my opinion there cannot be a UK without Scotland.  So who gave Alex Salmond, the SNP and the Scots the right to determine the constitutional future of the peoples of England, Wales and Northern Ireland ?? 

Although I'd rather see the UK continue to exist, England would be fine on its own especially if it didn't join the EU!!! 

[Varche]

We have had this debate on the forum a few weeks back. My views are unchanged.

No way should Scotland consider leaving the UK.

If a referendum is held ALL UK voters should vote on it.

If they do get the votes to leave it should be in entirety. Own defence, own embassies the world over and so on. They would soon realise that there is synergy in a UK.

As I said before I would rebuild and man Hadrians wall to stop folk trying to escape to the land of milk and honey (England) .

Oh and the final irony, not appreciated by most voters, is that under EU law newly created countries as Scotland would be would have to take the Euro unless they sought dispensation to keep the pound. I wonder if Mervyn King would be able to say "no let them have the Euro!"


Personally I think that it is a vote winner for Salmond. He would get another term of privelege. Camerons handling of it is very good. He now has two feathers from me for his cap. Still short of a headress but showing promise.............