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[Entwood]

right tried the inner tube trick - how do you keep the tube on the radiator ?
I tried using the clamps for the hoses but it is far too loose

Cheers
Al

The inner tube is thinner than the radiator hoses, so the original clips won't work. Bin the useless spring clips and use proper worm drive ones. Jubilee is the usual and original brand, but not the only one. They're easier to fit/remove and give a reliable and adjustable clamp to anything but the very smallest hoses. The spring ones are used simply for quick assembly, and for no other reason.

Incorrect.

Spring clips are commonly used on pipes that experience extremes of temperature ... ie radiator pipes. The rise in temperature causes both the hose and the spigot of the radiator on which the hose sits to expand, the spring clip "gives" with this expansion and allows it to happen. A "jubilee" clip, or any other worm drive will NOT expand and can easily, and often, cause the plastic spigot to crack as it tries to expand and the worm drive, effectively, over-tightens.

If you want to use a worm drive, fine, but the designers of the systems choose components for good reasons. If you are going to advise against those reasons at least do so with accurate information please.. That way folks won't risk a split radiator for no good reason.

[Nick W]

right tried the inner tube trick - how do you keep the tube on the radiator ?
I tried using the clamps for the hoses but it is far too loose

Cheers
Al

The inner tube is thinner than the radiator hoses, so the original clips won't work. Bin the useless spring clips and use proper worm drive ones. Jubilee is the usual and original brand, but not the only one. They're easier to fit/remove and give a reliable and adjustable clamp to anything but the very smallest hoses. The spring ones are used simply for quick assembly, and for no other reason.

Incorrect.

Spring clips are commonly used on pipes that experience extremes of temperature ... ie radiator pipes. The rise in temperature causes both the hose and the spigot of the radiator on which the hose sits to expand, the spring clip "gives" with this expansion and allows it to happen. A "jubilee" clip, or any other worm drive will NOT expand and can easily, and often, cause the plastic spigot to crack as it tries to expand and the worm drive, effectively, over-tightens.

In theory, I'd have to agree with you. But in practice? Extremes of temperature? In an automotive cooling system? Just how hot do you think they get? Nor are they are at a high pressure. And if the plastic/rubber components increase measurably in size at these temps then surely you would be better arguing that a better material should have been used? Which would be a good idea for many plastic items. After all, the plastic tanks are crimped to an aluminium core and we don't worry about them leaking unless they are very old and worn out.

It's not as if you tighten a worm drive hose clamp particularly tight anyway. You can't, the thread will strip.

Aside from the practicalities of fitting/removing spring clamps, knowing that a replacement is actually tight, rather than hopefully tight, outweighs any potential risk to me.

[Pawel_Nottingham]

Part Number : NIS63073A
 Cost : £88.72 + vat

from http://www.buypartsby.co.uk

Done mine in November, was leaking from under the top, right hose (plastic pipe just cracked to pieces). My mate fitted for... 4 pints of beer

[BigAl]

right, ordered the replacement by phone as they did not have my model on the site (52485466). the one that has turned up has a couple of brass connections the original does not, any ideas or have i got the wrong one

[BigAl]

drivers side top

drivers side bottom

[albitz]

Autobox cooler on the side of the rad.Thats where the pipes connect to it.Assuming you have a manual,I would think it will be ok to use it as it is and ignore the cooler,bet wait for someone more knowledgeable to confirm.

[Andy B]

Autobox cooler on the side of the rad.Thats where the pipes connect to it.Assuming you have a manual,I would think it will be ok to use it as it is and ignore the cooler,bet wait for someone more knowledgeable to confirm.

Almost. AFAIAA the latest V6s had an auto box cooler located in front of the main rad & not in the side of it as most autos seem to have had.

[Andy B]

right, ordered the replacement by phone as they did not have my model on the site (52485466). the one that has turned up has a couple of brass connections the original does not, any ideas or have i got the wrong one

I assume that your auto box cooler pipes head off to a separate stand alone cooler in front of the main rad. 
Although not strictly the correct rad it would be perfectly OK to use. Phone then & see what they say, they'll only be using a book reference book from their suppliers. If they're willing to swap it, see if they have a rad for a manual.

[albitz]

Autobox cooler on the side of the rad.Thats where the pipes connect to it.Assuming you have a manual,I would think it will be ok to use it as it is and ignore the cooler,bet wait for someone more knowledgeable to confirm.

Almost. AFAIAA the latest V6s had an auto box cooler located in front of the main rad & not in the side of it as most autos seem to have had.

Your correct Andy they do have a seperate cooler in front of the rad.Im not sure if Als 2.6 is a manual,or even if there was such a beast as a 2.6 manual.I think there was but I wouldnt swear to it.

[Andy B]

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Im not sure if Als 2.6 is a manual,or even if there was such a beast as a 2.6 manual.I think there was but I wouldnt swear to it.

It'd be the same main rad whether it has 2 or 3 pedals if the auto cooler is separate 

[albitz]

True.

[BigAl]

Oops for some reason I've lost my signature- the car is a 2.6 V6 Auto
and the car does have a separate small rad for the gearbox

[Andy B]

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and the car does have a separate small rad for the gearbox

So you don't need the water/oil cooler built into the side of the rad. You can still use what you've been sent, but your original rad would be hat the supplier would consider the rad for a manual car.