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Nickbat

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Limp home mode
« on: 02 February 2012, 19:59:37 »

Coming back from taking the kids swimming and the auto box goes into limp mode. Need the car to take my daughter to a special party in Milton Keynes this Saturday. Looks like I'm stuffed. Can't get under the car. Too many vehicles driving past, not near my house now as parking spaces all gone, too cold and too old. Being a pessimist, I think the box has had it. Could this mean the end of my Omega ownership. Thoroughly P**ed off.  >:( >:( :'( :'(

Worth calling out the AA?
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albitz

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Re: Limp home mode
« Reply #1 on: 02 February 2012, 20:06:52 »

Doubt the AA would be much help tbh. First port of call is usually to check the fluid level. Second - selector switch on the n/s of the box.It gets dirt/grim/water inside and causes problems.Iirc this is often indicated by the lights on the gear selector panel,beside the gear stick flashing on/off rather than indicating gear position.
Might be a job for a local mechanic / garage,but if going that route,I would print off the relevant guides from OOF and present them to whoever is doing the job and instruct them to follow the guides to the letter.
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Re: Limp home mode
« Reply #2 on: 02 February 2012, 20:10:36 »

Doubt the AA would be much help tbh. First port of call is usually to check the fluid level. Second - selector switch on the n/s of the box.It gets dirt/grim/water inside and causes problems.Iirc this is often indicated by the lights on the gear selector panel,beside the gear stick flashing on/off rather than indicating gear position.
Might be a job for a local mechanic / garage,but if going that route,I would print off the relevant guides from OOF and present them to whoever is doing the job and instruct them to follow the guides to the letter.

Is it Dexron 1 or 2 that is used in the box, Albs?

How easy is it to check the level myself? I've never done it before (car's only done 40K miles).
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feeutfo

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Re: Limp home mode
« Reply #3 on: 02 February 2012, 20:11:11 »

Dex 3.
As the guide  ::)
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Nickbat

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« Reply #4 on: 02 February 2012, 20:11:31 »

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Re: Limp home mode
« Reply #5 on: 02 February 2012, 20:12:57 »

Doubt the AA would be much help tbh. First port of call is usually to check the fluid level. Second - selector switch on the n/s of the box.It gets dirt/grim/water inside and causes problems.Iirc this is often indicated by the lights on the gear selector panel,beside the gear stick flashing on/off rather than indicating gear position.
Might be a job for a local mechanic / garage,but if going that route,I would print off the relevant guides from OOF and present them to whoever is doing the job and instruct them to follow the guides to the letter.

Is it Dexron 1 or 2 that is used in the box, Albs?

How easy is it to check the level myself? I've never done it before (car's only done 40K miles).
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90508.0
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Re: Limp home mode
« Reply #6 on: 02 February 2012, 20:19:22 »

Doubt the AA would be much help tbh. First port of call is usually to check the fluid level. Second - selector switch on the n/s of the box.It gets dirt/grim/water inside and causes problems.Iirc this is often indicated by the lights on the gear selector panel,beside the gear stick flashing on/off rather than indicating gear position.
Might be a job for a local mechanic / garage,but if going that route,I would print off the relevant guides from OOF and present them to whoever is doing the job and instruct them to follow the guides to the letter.

Is it Dexron 1 or 2 that is used in the box, Albs?

How easy is it to check the level myself? I've never done it before (car's only done 40K miles).
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90508.0

Thanks, just read it. Wish I had a drive (and a few hours and a bucket load of Dexron 3!).
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Re: Limp home mode
« Reply #7 on: 02 February 2012, 20:25:17 »

Worth a little search it's a well covered subject.

For instance dealers will tell you dex 3 is no longer available (if they happen not to have dex 3 in stock) and that dex 4 and above are back compatible.
This MAY be correct, but also consider that vx upgraded the pas fluid from Dex2 to 3. Then smartly changed it back to Dex 2 again as the pas pipes leaked.

As I understand general forum thinking, the story is to stick firmly to Dex3 for auto box fluid as it is a known to work product. Silkolenes titan 4000 dex3 is fine but may take some searching to source. Opie oils are not the cheapest, despite what they would have us believe IME.

To go further and service the fluid, you'll need the two sump gaskets as well, see jpat in parts stickys.
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Re: Limp home mode
« Reply #8 on: 02 February 2012, 20:32:22 »

Worth a little search it's a well covered subject.

For instance dealers will tell you dex 3 is no longer available (if they happen not to have dex 3 in stock) and that dex 4 and above are back compatible.
This MAY be correct, but also consider that vx upgraded the pas fluid from Dex2 to 3. Then smartly changed it back to Dex 2 again as the pas pipes leaked.

As I understand general forum thinking, the story is to stick firmly to Dex3 for auto box fluid as it is a known to work product. Silkolenes titan 4000 dex3 is fine but may take some searching to source. Opie oils are not the cheapest, despite what they would have us believe IME.

To go further and service the fluid, you'll need the two sump gaskets as well, see jpat in parts stickys.

Thanks, again, Chris.

I think I'll try and get in touch with the mechanic that recently worked on SWMBO's car and get him to check out the fluid level on his ramps. If necessary, I'll get him to put some Dex 3 in to get me by (if that is the problem). With the bad weather and my workload right now, I could do without having the hassle of going for a full service - I'd rather leave that until the Spring.  ;) :y
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Re: Limp home mode
« Reply #9 on: 02 February 2012, 20:50:58 »

If he has a code reader it might be worth checking the engine and gear box ecu's as well.
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Nickbat

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Re: Limp home mode
« Reply #10 on: 02 February 2012, 21:01:53 »

If he has a code reader it might be worth checking the engine and gear box ecu's as well.

I just went out to the car for something and thought I'd just start her up again. The light was on when I turned the ignition but it went through its sequence and the transmission light then went out and it didn't come on again, even when I move the selector through the range (though I didn't drive the car - as I'd lose my space! ;)). Does this shed any light on the problem?  ???
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Re: Limp home mode
« Reply #11 on: 02 February 2012, 21:04:29 »

What engine Nick?
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albitz

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Re: Limp home mode
« Reply #12 on: 02 February 2012, 21:14:21 »

2.6 V6 Rob. :y
Nick. A quick check of luid level can be made after driving a few miles to warm up the box. Simply slide yourself under the drivers side and undo and remove the filler plug (cant remember the spanner size of the top of my head).Fluid should weep out as soon as the plug is removed.If it doesnt,it needs topping up.I have done it in the past without ramps or stands etc. Its a bit awkward,but by no means impossible,unless your quite portly.
The level plug is roughly  level with the centre of the drivers door iirc.
Wear gloves etc. as the fluid may be a bit on the warm side. ;)
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Re: Limp home mode
« Reply #13 on: 02 February 2012, 21:22:10 »

13mm socket and a curb and block (although not ideal on several counts)

edit , if it dont pour out you can judge the level with a bent cable tie.
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Re: Limp home mode
« Reply #14 on: 02 February 2012, 21:26:58 »

2.6 V6 Rob. :y
Nick. A quick check of luid level can be made after driving a few miles to warm up the box. Simply slide yourself under the drivers side and undo and remove the filler plug (cant remember the spanner size of the top of my head).Fluid should weep out as soon as the plug is removed.If it doesnt,it needs topping up.I have done it in the past without ramps or stands etc. Its a bit awkward,but by no means impossible,unless your quite portly.
The level plug is roughly  level with the centre of the drivers door iirc.
Wear gloves etc. as the fluid may be a bit on the warm side. ;)

Actually, I am relatively slim (30-inch waist in jeans!). The problem I have is that I live next to school, so parking during school term can be difficult and I don't have any Dex 3 in stock. I am short of time as I need the car desperately for Saturday AM to take Miss Nickbat and her schoolmates off to her skydiving party at MK. It's a long-awaited event and as she missed out on her birthday celebrations at school yesterday due to a migraine (her first at age 11  :(), I am very keen not to disappoint her.   
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