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mantahatch

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One for the IT experts
« on: 23 March 2008, 12:17:08 »

Hi All
I have just bitten the bullet and bought myself a wireless network modem router thingy.
I have set up as best I can and all the desktop PC's work ok, my son's Wii connects to it wirelessly ok but!!!
My laptop will not, it is a Toshiba Satellite Pro 6100. I have played with numerous settings and the laptop finds the signal ok and seems to transmit to it but gets nothing back.

Any help would be greatly received.

Mike

P.S. I have reinstalled windows xp on the laptop and downloaded the latest wireless driver from the Toshiba website.
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Re: One for the IT experts
« Reply #1 on: 23 March 2008, 12:45:55 »

Athough it sounds obvious - do you get t'internet on laptop if it is plugged in via Cat 5 cable? If not, you have network/adaper setup problem.

If you do get connection - you may still have a wireless adapter problem. Or you may have done my trick of miss-typing WPA password, Usually best to set up wireless without security to get it working then add WPA after.

WEP is weaker and a whole lot more complicated to get the password right... IMO
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Re: One for the IT experts
« Reply #2 on: 23 March 2008, 12:53:36 »

Just check the obvious that any switch on the Tosh to disable wireless is correct.
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« Reply #3 on: 23 March 2008, 12:57:00 »

Hi
Thanks for the replies.
Yes cat 5 lead works ok.
If I disable wireless security it works fine. But as soon as I enable security on the router it stops working on the laptop but still works ok on the Wii.
Sorry I am a real noob when it comes to wireless.

Mike
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« Reply #4 on: 23 March 2008, 13:07:06 »

If using WPA, check the Tosh can do WPA-2 or set the router to just WPA. WPA-2 is fairly new.

And again, make sure you get pass phrase right - including case.
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« Reply #5 on: 23 March 2008, 13:26:44 »

Ok, I am really confused now. Re attached cat5 lead to hub at the same time wireless was tring to connect and hey presto it worked, having to use WEP as laptop is a bit old.
Disconnected cat5 lead and wireless still working away merrily.

Thanks Chaps

Mike
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« Reply #6 on: 23 March 2008, 13:47:33 »

This is scarey - I am an IT professional and I have to look up networking stuff but then I started with IPX and LANs - if anyone gets confusing I start on about programming - that shuts them up.

Not everyone can design a database schema.
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Re: One for the IT experts
« Reply #7 on: 23 March 2008, 14:00:10 »

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This is scarey - I am an IT professional and I have to look up networking stuff but then I started with IPX and LANs - if anyone gets confusing I start on about programming - that shuts them up.

Not everyone can design a database schema.
I'm sure I could. And have.

IP is one of those skills that until you truely fully understand it, just when you think you know it, you realise you don't ;D.
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« Reply #8 on: 23 March 2008, 20:13:38 »

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This is scarey - I am an IT professional and I have to look up networking stuff but then I started with IPX and LANs - if anyone gets confusing I start on about programming - that shuts them up.

Not everyone can design a database schema.
I'm sure I could. And have.

IP is one of those skills that until you truely fully understand it, just when you think you know it, you realise you don't ;D.


At least I am clever enough to know I don't understand IP very well, that is better than thinking you do but not, but then for all I konw I might know more than the person who thinks he does.
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« Reply #9 on: 23 March 2008, 20:27:53 »

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This is scarey - I am an IT professional and I have to look up networking stuff but then I started with IPX and LANs - if anyone gets confusing I start on about programming - that shuts them up.

Not everyone can design a database schema.
I'm sure I could. And have.

IP is one of those skills that until you truely fully understand it, just when you think you know it, you realise you don't ;D.


At least I am clever enough to know I don't understand IP very well, that is better than thinking you do but not, but then for all I konw I might know more than the person who thinks he does.
Absolutely - nobody knows everything about computing, though some people think they do.  I know my weakpoints and my strengths.  Fortunately for many of my weakpoints (eg Oracle) I have strengths in similar technologies (eg MS SQL), and they often work in similar ways :).

Networking, I always struggled with DLC and some of the IBM protocols like sdlc, not to mention the weird OSI-TP4 protocol.  IPX (from my Novell days) and IP are more my scene.
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« Reply #10 on: 23 March 2008, 20:43:52 »

Well I have had a decent amount of Netware 3 & 4 experience, a little bit of AS400 - horrid things the little ones, used various flavours of multi user DOS. Too busy programming to get too involved with Windows networking.

Been using the XBASE family languages now for over 20 years and use the most powerful database engine of that family Advantage Database Server - know it pretty well and have done various jobs with the clients including wrappers to the Windows API for a VB programmer, the languages I mainly use are use it natively.

My next job is to learn C++, I know enough C and OOP to read C++ but not write it from scratch.

As to XBASE I have used the compiler versions - currently Visual Objects, and maintenance of Clipper applications, (ones I mainly wrote).

I get a bit of flack of some people as I am very pessimistic over locking and never leave it to the client or the server, prefering to tell the server when I want it locked, rather than let it decide, but this is mainly 20 years of experience and managing to never write an application capable of deadly embraces.
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« Reply #11 on: 23 March 2008, 20:45:44 »

Just a quick update for all of you, it seems the Wii can use WPA2 but the laptop cannot, the laptop has to use WEP.
So if I disabled the laptop wireless and bought a new PCMCIA wireless network card, do you think that would work together with the Wii ?

Thanks

Mike
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« Reply #12 on: 23 March 2008, 20:59:43 »

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Just a quick update for all of you, it seems the Wii can use WPA2 but the laptop cannot, the laptop has to use WEP.
So if I disabled the laptop wireless and bought a new PCMCIA wireless network card, do you think that would work together with the Wii ?

Thanks

Mike
I suspect the Tosh can do WPA, as it likely uses an Intel wireless adapter.

You got SP2 installed?
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« Reply #13 on: 23 March 2008, 21:53:03 »

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Just a quick update for all of you, it seems the Wii can use WPA2 but the laptop cannot, the laptop has to use WEP.
So if I disabled the laptop wireless and bought a new PCMCIA wireless network card, do you think that would work together with the Wii ?

Thanks

Mike
I suspect the Tosh can do WPA, as it likely uses an Intel wireless adapter.

You got SP2 installed?

Hi
Yes indeed SP2 installed, however perhaps I should mention with this laptop it will not install windows with a "windows xp sp2" disk, I have to use an old "windows xp disk" and then install SP2 seperatly.
I think it has an old motherboard which is not immediatly SP2 compatible.
And yes it does use an intel wireless adaptor.

Mike
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Re: One for the IT experts
« Reply #14 on: 23 March 2008, 21:55:45 »

make sure your wireless is set to use the Windows configuration tool, and not the bespoke software for that make of wireless
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