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albitz

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Estate rear seat problem.
« on: 22 February 2012, 00:11:20 »

The locking latches on the back of the rear seat should spring up into place to hold the back of the seat in position. On my estate they are reluctant to do so (on both sides) and need a helping hand to pop up.The mechanism doesnt appear particularily complicated,but it looks like the whole seat unit has to be dismantled to access it.Have tried squirting some penetrating fluid in there hoping to free things up,but it didnt have much effect.
Anyone got any experience of this or similar ?

A couple of poor quality pics.

White plastic plunger thing should be in this position when the seat is in the upright and closed position.

But its staying down like this. :-\
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Re: Estate rear seat problem.
« Reply #1 on: 22 February 2012, 00:19:40 »

If it's the N/S it is also connected by a wire to the centre seatbelt. I managed to unclip the material and put loads of oil into the workings.
Touch wood its been ok ever since.(Famous last words! ;D)
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Re: Estate rear seat problem.
« Reply #2 on: 22 February 2012, 00:22:37 »

Cheers,I will have a close look tomorrow. Do you mean unclip the material from the front,the actual seat upholstery ?
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Re: Estate rear seat problem.
« Reply #3 on: 22 February 2012, 00:28:36 »

Yes - it's possible to unclip the trim and pull the padding away to get to the mechanism, it's fiddly but can be done.
As per usual (after the event) I wish I had taken photo's.
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Re: Estate rear seat problem.
« Reply #4 on: 22 February 2012, 00:31:10 »

Brilliant,thanks.Now I know its doable,I will have a go. :y
Where else but OOF could you get a quick answer to a question like that at quarter past midnight ? ::) :y
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Re: Estate rear seat problem.
« Reply #5 on: 22 February 2012, 00:33:41 »

i had this with mine, turns out the clip on bodywork was bent so it wasnt latching into place, person who owned before me used to haul lots stuff from swindon to devon and back,bent it back with screwdriver and presto it worked, seat locks into place perfect and no problems since
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albitz

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Re: Estate rear seat problem.
« Reply #6 on: 22 February 2012, 00:37:29 »

I had thought about that,but as far as I could tell the clips arent bent.Might just have a closer look at that as well tomorrow,although without another car to compare clips with it may be hard to tell. :-\
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Re: Estate rear seat problem.
« Reply #7 on: 22 February 2012, 00:40:11 »

mine didnt look bent, but id pushed screwdriver into locking mech and it locked into place, this ruled out fault there, so in my quest to find problem it came down to them clips, only takes a little amount out of place to screw it all up
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« Reply #8 on: 22 February 2012, 00:45:42 »

Will have a bit of a fiddle and hopefully get it sorted.Thanks. :y
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Re: Estate rear seat problem.
« Reply #9 on: 22 February 2012, 00:49:23 »

ok buddy, personally i wouldnt fiddle with anything to do with the seat belt, its all safety critical stuff, if the seat isnt locked into position the seatbelt locks to stop it being used, its to stop you having a crash and going through windscreen with the back seat round your neck, but its your choice
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Re: Estate rear seat problem.
« Reply #10 on: 22 February 2012, 00:52:10 »

ok buddy, personally i wouldnt fiddle with anything to do with the seat belt, its all safety critical stuff, if the seat isnt locked into position the seatbelt locks to stop it being used, its to stop you having a crash and going through windscreen with the back seat round your neck, but its your choice

Didnt know that.Thanks,will bear that in mind. :y
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Re: Estate rear seat problem.
« Reply #11 on: 22 February 2012, 01:00:47 »

i had this on the mv6 last year,  as with the other chap, it turned out to be the metal hoop from the body work, not the seat mechanism..   they can get  pushed sideways a bit by large gear being hauled around in the boot,  repositioning them fixes the issue. 

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Re: Estate rear seat problem.
« Reply #12 on: 23 February 2012, 02:05:50 »

Albs this may help understand how the centre belt works:http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90672.0 :y

Also before panicking about the centre passenger flying though the screen, if both sides are latched and the top bolt is locked in place the belt will behave exactly as it's meant to. The cable can be disconnected with no ill effects :y.

HTH, Al :y

p.s. Mine is an absolute bugger to get relatched, patient perseverance is the key, the leather doesn't take kindly to frustrated violence :-X The problem seems to be a combination of the latch/striker not quite lining up, and the button sticking down/not returning fully once the latch is secure :-\

MK3 Grannys had a similar issue FWIW.
« Last Edit: 23 February 2012, 02:10:57 by taxi al »
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Re: Estate rear seat problem.
« Reply #13 on: 23 February 2012, 02:26:10 »

the cable is there to lock the centre belt if the seat isnt fully locked into position, it is a safety critical part and stops the belt being used till the seat is fully locked into place, so as i posted before remove it and you put pasengers at risk if you have a crash and the rear seat isnt locked properly
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Re: Estate rear seat problem.
« Reply #14 on: 23 February 2012, 02:46:48 »

It has no bearing on the seatbelt function in the event of an accident. The inertia real is a completely seperate part of the mechanism. If the dead bolt between the two seat parts is locked in place, and the seat latched at either end it essentially becomes one rigid bulkhead. :y

The mechanism that the cable attatches to also has a tilt switch to lock the belt when the seat is folded. All this does is keep the belt retracted , and therefore out of harms way, whilst the seat is folded :y

I've had this centre belt mechanism apart as the original one failed. Only had to replace it as I managed to release the inertia spring ::)
« Last Edit: 23 February 2012, 02:49:42 by taxi al »
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