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[tigers_gonads]

I'm in no way trying to defend what happened in Gosport I don't know the park but this could very well be the other side  of the coin ........ http://www.independent.co.uk/news/fireman-drowns-in-hunt-for-boy-1116814.html 

I understand what you mean andy but looking at the pictures, this was a man made  boating pond with concrete / paved sides and the poor bloke was 20ft away 

[Andy B]

I'm in no way trying to defend what happened in Gosport I don't know the park but this could very well be the other side  of the coin ........ http://www.independent.co.uk/news/fireman-drowns-in-hunt-for-boy-1116814.html 

I understand what you mean andy but looking at the pictures, this was a man made  boating pond with concrete / paved sides and the poor bloke was 20ft away 

That's what I read in a paper at work today. Original fire crew were apparently only trained to work in water up to ankle depth & had to wait till those who were qualified to chest deep water turned up. 

[Nickbat]

I'm in no way trying to defend what happened in Gosport I don't know the park but this could very well be the other side  of the coin ........ http://www.independent.co.uk/news/fireman-drowns-in-hunt-for-boy-1116814.html 

I understand what you mean andy but looking at the pictures, this was a man made  boating pond with concrete / paved sides and the poor bloke was 20ft away 

That's what I read in a paper at work today. Original fire crew were apparently only trained to work in water up to ankle depth & had to wait till those who were qualified to chest deep water turned up. 

Bet that took a lot of training. 

[paul.lovejoy]

lets see if the filters work....this country has become a oppsin joke and god damn it makes me angry how pathetic it has become,some silly bastard decided to let people claim for tripping over a chuffin pebble and them some other silly bastard thought it would be good to prevent this by going over board and preventing people from doing there job(are you allowed to change a bulb at work or does a risk assesment have to be done by tenders and then method statements on how they will do it and charge £399 for oppss sake its a 10 second job)pubs are closing daily..another british way of life going forever cos when the pub business is gone the building turns into a curry house.when is some normal bloke with some balls and authority gonna put a stop to this lunacy  and say opps it theres nowt wrong with your neck and dont be bloody stupid yer dont need a scaffold tower for that yer daft bastard get up that ladder....little rant over cos i could go on all night 

that bloke died cos of a lack of human respect that this country has lost,i would like to think that if i was there i would of been in and that is how at one time people would of done but powers that be are sapping patriotism from the english man

Exactly 

exactly exactly ............if i was trained to go in water past my ankles i would be off this what once was a great british / scottish/ welsh island.. the irish dont count greedy buggers got thier own island

i  feel for any grieving people related to the dead person

[Gaffers]

The RLSS have been training children and young adults to do this type of rescue safely for decades.  Why a whole fire engine of grown adults could not beggars belief!

[Kevin Wood]

I am trying to imagine a scenario where, in the face of my boss asking me not to help a dying man in case he gets in the sh1t, I would NOT tell him to shove it.

Has this H&S culture really got so ingrained into people that they behave in this way?

[tigers_gonads]

I am trying to imagine a scenario where, in the face of my boss asking me not to help a dying man in case he gets in the sh1t, I would NOT tell him to shove it.

Has this H&S culture really got so ingrained into people that they behave in this way?

In a word, yes 

The majority of people nowdays are terified to make a decesion incase it breaks a rule somewhere or offends someone 
One thing I have found out about civvy street since I left the forces is the majority of the public have no common sence 
Nobody will take the initiative in any situation.
They would rather stand there and discuss / argue with themselfs rather then someone take charge and get the rather job done 

And you can guarentee when the sh*t hits the fan and something bad happens, the first thing they say is .............. nowt to do with me / not my job 

[Olympia5776]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2011/11/21/daughters-of-mineshaft-tragedy-woman-alison-hume-plan-to-sue-strathclyde-fire-rescue-over-her-death-86908-23577497/

Not an isolated incident .

[cem_devecioglu]

I am trying to imagine a scenario where, in the face of my boss asking me not to help a dying man in case he gets in the sh1t, I would NOT tell him to shove it.

Has this H&S culture really got so ingrained into people that they behave in this way?

In a word, yes 

The majority of people nowdays are terified to make a decesion incase it breaks a rule somewhere or offends someone 
One thing I have found out about civvy street since I left the forces is the majority of the public have no common sense
Nobody will take the initiative in any situation.
They would rather stand there and discuss / argue with themselfs rather then someone take charge and get the rather job done 

And you can guarentee when the sh*t hits the fan and something bad happens, the first thing they say is .............. nowt to do with me / not my job 

yep.. very classic.. people watch everything like a tv show..  because their brains are washed like that.. and they are desired to be a bunch of herds
 
nobody can explain me the situation where in a big city a street full of people watching a man stabbing a woman till death (more than 20 times for 5 minutes)..
 
obviously woman died ..

[paul.lovejoy]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2011/11/21/daughters-of-mineshaft-tragedy-woman-alison-hume-plan-to-sue-strathclyde-fire-rescue-over-her-death-86908-23577497/

Not an isolated incident .

has the world gone rather mad bloody discracefull