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Title: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: omega3000 on 18 June 2012, 18:15:20
Do i need planning permission to dig a big hole at the bottom of the garden for an underground shelter  :-\
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: the alarming man on 18 June 2012, 18:23:51
depends how deep??...a nuclear shelter need to be at least  100 ft underground...that is serious digging....how big is your garden as if i was yourneighbour and my house fell into your hole (so to speak) i would'nt be impressed to say the least lol.... :y
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: omega3000 on 18 June 2012, 18:29:45
depends how deep??...a nuclear shelter need to be at least  100 ft underground...that is serious digging....how big is your garden as if i was yourneighbour and my house fell into your hole (so to speak) i would'nt be impressed to say the least lol.... :y

1OO ft  :o dam hadnt planned on that deep . Same thing as building an inspection pit then as you need to consider many things .

Btw there's no immediate air threat that i know of  ;D :y
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: des.allen on 18 June 2012, 18:35:20
An old aquantance of mine used to sell plastic nuclear shelters, made quite a bit of money out of it apparently, I said to him that they wouldnt work if put to the test, his reply was " well there won't be anyone left to complain"  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: the alarming man on 18 June 2012, 18:39:15
depends how deep??...a nuclear shelter need to be at least  100 ft underground...that is serious digging....how big is your garden as if i was yourneighbour and my house fell into your hole (so to speak) i would'nt be impressed to say the least lol.... :y

1OO ft  :o dam hadnt planned on that deep . Same thing as building an inspection pit then as you need to consider many things .

Btw there's no immediate air threat that i know of  ;D :y



before digging i would certainly get a surveyor in as you dont know whats down there....services etc
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: the alarming man on 18 June 2012, 18:40:02
An old aquantance of mine used to sell plastic nuclear shelters, made quite a bit of money out of it apparently, I said to him that they wouldnt work if put to the test, his reply was " well there won't be anyone left to complain"  ;D ;D



did he live in peckham and drive a yellow 3 wheeler..??..... :y
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: Varche on 18 June 2012, 18:41:09
Kitchen table with a large cloth over just as effective and no planning permission. :y

Are you on the USA drone target list? It is on Google. The Yanks have more trained drone pilots than trained real plane pilots! Gulp. :o
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: the alarming man on 18 June 2012, 18:47:55
i think he is paranoid....but because EMD is paranoid don't mean not out to get you lol.... :y
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 18 June 2012, 18:52:16
Kitchen table with a large cloth over just as effective and no planning permission. :y

Are you on the USA drone target list? It is on Google. The Yanks have more trained drone pilots than trained real plane pilots! Gulp. :o

And newspaper stuck to the windows as well  ;D. People must have been a bit more gullable in the 50's i think  ::)
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: omega3000 on 18 June 2012, 19:05:23
As they say "be prepared"  :)
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: Martian on 18 June 2012, 19:11:56
1OO ft  :o dam hadnt planned on that deep . Same thing as building an inspection pit then as you need to consider many things .

Btw there's no immediate air threat that i know of  ;D :y
Doesn't matter how deep you go.
You wouldn't be able to surface for at least 50 years after a nuclear strike, and the surrounding area would still be f**ked for a good 50 years after that......would you really want to be alive for the aftermath?
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: tigers_gonads on 18 June 2012, 19:12:28
Have a good look at this mate  :y

http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Survive_To_Fight
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: omega3000 on 18 June 2012, 19:19:33
1OO ft  :o dam hadnt planned on that deep . Same thing as building an inspection pit then as you need to consider many things .

Btw there's no immediate air threat that i know of  ;D :y
Doesn't matter how deep you go.
You wouldn't be able to surface for at least 50 years after a nuclear strike, and the surrounding area would still be f**ked for a good 50 years after that......would you really want to be alive for the aftermath?



Yeah id have loads of free spares for the elite  :y
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: Kevin Wood on 18 June 2012, 19:24:49
Have a good look at this mate  :y

http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Survive_To_Fight

I remember my mate getting a copy of that in the T.A. years back. Laughed at the "defecation procedure" back then. ;D IIRC, you got some special talc to decontaminate your brown eye with afterwards? :-\
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: Martian on 18 June 2012, 19:25:03
1OO ft  :o dam hadnt planned on that deep . Same thing as building an inspection pit then as you need to consider many things .

Btw there's no immediate air threat that i know of  ;D :y
Doesn't matter how deep you go.
You wouldn't be able to surface for at least 50 years after a nuclear strike, and the surrounding area would still be f**ked for a good 50 years after that......would you really want to be alive for the aftermath?



Yeah id have loads of free spares for the elite  :y
Assuming the car would still be present afterwards, and also assuming the resultant EMF didn't kill the electronics, where do you plan on getting fuel & oil from?  ;)
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: omega3000 on 18 June 2012, 19:31:10
1OO ft  :o dam hadnt planned on that deep . Same thing as building an inspection pit then as you need to consider many things .

Btw there's no immediate air threat that i know of  ;D :y
Doesn't matter how deep you go.
You wouldn't be able to surface for at least 50 years after a nuclear strike, and the surrounding area would still be f**ked for a good 50 years after that......would you really want to be alive for the aftermath?



Yeah id have loads of free spares for the elite  :y
Assuming the car would still be present afterwards, and also assuming the resultant EMF didn't kill the electronics, where do you plan on getting fuel & oil from?  ;)

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Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: Varche on 18 June 2012, 19:35:31
Many years ago, I was security cleared and took part in an end of the world scenario.

It was most depressing as by the end of the week a few of us ended up really deep in a depressing facility I never knew before existed in a city centre. Enough food and water etc to last a long time (but not 50 years ;D).

My main concern would be if the area suffered a direct hit you would be buried alive. I would rather go in the first strike .  :y
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: tigers_gonads on 18 June 2012, 20:01:10
Have a good look at this mate  :y

http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Survive_To_Fight

I remember my mate getting a copy of that in the T.A. years back. Laughed at the "defecation procedure" back then. ;D IIRC, you got some special talc to decontaminate your brown eye with afterwards? :-\


Fullers Earth  :y

This brings back memories  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: bootie on 18 June 2012, 22:46:25
NBCD procedures.... what a laugh we used to have, apart from the tear gas test, that was a splutterer!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: Vamps on 18 June 2012, 23:16:32
NBCD procedures.... what a laugh we used to have, apart from the tear gas test, that was a splutterer!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I remember that.......  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: tigers_gonads on 19 June 2012, 08:03:33
NBCD procedures.... what a laugh we used to have, apart from the tear gas test, that was a splutterer!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I remember that.......  :'( :'(


Remember my first gas mask test at Swinderby.

All of into the chamber.
Deep breath, close your eyes and change the filter only to find the rockape had nicked the spare out of your sack  ::)

The t*sser then thinks it good fun to make you recite your name, rank and service number  ::)
Your number backwards and then it was question time about your sister including the size of her tits and if she shagged  :o ;D

After you had half drowned in your own snot, you was kicked outside, told to remove your mask and then made to run into the wind to remove any gas clinging to your noddy suit  ;D ;D

I'll say one thing, CS is far better at clearing your sinuses then bloody lemsip  :y :D :D

That was 28 years ago and I wouldn't swap it for the world  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: cam2502 on 19 June 2012, 16:34:44
Vague memories of a tv advert telling us to put 3or4 doors at an angle on a sturdy wall, throw some pillows and cushions on top of them and jobs a gud un.  Pppfffttt!!!
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: grain.ben on 19 June 2012, 20:20:11
I personally have always been interested in all this dooms day stuff and wanting to survive the aftermath. Ive spent countless hours trawling the net on info about bunkers, pill boxes, panic rooms, safe rooms, secret underground passages, air raid shelters ect ect, i started getting into it because i live about 0.5 mile from the perimeter of the former RAF Greenham Common in Newbury and although they have ripped up the runway, the control tower still stands and the missile bunkers are still there and so are some hangers which apparantly still guarded by security, so i know where ill be heading if there if this country comes under any threat.

This is a good read, enjoy.........................

http://www.bunkertours.co.uk/milhist2/raf%20greenham%20common.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Greenham_Common
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: VXL V6 on 19 June 2012, 20:46:51
All depends where the Ground Zero's are....

Alas we are now in a worst state of prepardness for a NBC attack on any part / area of this Country than we have ever been since the start of the cold war.

One of my hobbies is to visit ROC posts as I travel around the country, really interesting to research what was going on behind the scenes in this country - UKWMO, ROC Posts, Group Controls, RGHQ, ECN, Handel, Raynet support, Corsham/Turnstile/Subterfuge etc etc.

Worth reading Attack Warning Red, Cold War Secret Nuclear Bunkers (Nick Mccamley) and War Plan UK (whihc was incredibly accurate considering it's publishing date.
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: grain.ben on 19 June 2012, 20:52:05
All depends where the Ground Zero's are....

Alas we are now in a worst state of prepardness for a NBC attack on any part / area of this Country than we have ever been since the start of the cold war.

One of my hobbies is to visit ROC posts as I travel around the country, really interesting to research what was going on behind the scenes in this country - UKWMO, ROC Posts, Group Controls, RGHQ, ECN, Handel, Raynet support, Corsham/Turnstile/Subterfuge etc etc.

Worth reading Attack Warning Red, Cold War Secret Nuclear Bunkers (Nick Mccamley) and War Plan UK (whihc was incredibly accurate considering it's publishing date.

I wouldnt mind doing that myself  :y
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: VXL V6 on 19 June 2012, 21:11:39
Have a look at the subbrit amd 28daylater sites. Lot's of information to get you started, I also have the POI database for all of the ROC posts on my sat nav which helps!!

Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: grain.ben on 19 June 2012, 21:13:16
hmm, interesting, will have a look during the week  :y
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 June 2012, 21:22:40
1OO ft  :o dam hadnt planned on that deep . Same thing as building an inspection pit then as you need to consider many things .

Btw there's no immediate air threat that i know of  ;D :y
Doesn't matter how deep you go.
You wouldn't be able to surface for at least 50 years after a nuclear strike, and the surrounding area would still be f**ked for a good 50 years after that......would you really want to be alive for the aftermath?

yep.. half life for those nuclear things will be much longer.. even if you survive radiation cancers will eat your body witrh big pain.. and there will be no veggies or animals around to eat or whats left will be highly radiaoactive :'(   
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: tigers_gonads on 19 June 2012, 21:59:44
All depends where the Ground Zero's are....

Alas we are now in a worst state of prepardness for a NBC attack on any part / area of this Country than we have ever been since the start of the cold war.

One of my hobbies is to visit ROC posts as I travel around the country, really interesting to research what was going on behind the scenes in this country - UKWMO, ROC Posts, Group Controls, RGHQ, ECN, Handel, Raynet support, Corsham/Turnstile/Subterfuge etc etc.

Worth reading Attack Warning Red, Cold War Secret Nuclear Bunkers (Nick Mccamley) and War Plan UK (whihc was incredibly accurate considering it's publishing date.


If your ever in East Yorkshire, pop in and have a good luck round here  :y

http://www.rafholmpton.com/

I visited last year and was well worth the 5 quid  :y
Tour takes about 2 hours and remember to take a jumper, its bloody cold down there even in summer  ;)
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 19 June 2012, 22:05:52
you dont need an air raid shelter from a nuke just the ability to put your head between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye which means i am breaked in trouble theres no way i can bend down that far ;D ;D
Title: Re: Air raid / nuclear shelter thing .
Post by: the alarming man on 19 June 2012, 22:12:23
hmm, interesting, will have a look during the week  :y

also take a trip to essex and go down a nuclear bunker...very intresting



http://www.secretnuclearbunker.com/ (http://www.secretnuclearbunker.com/)