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Title: state of the nhs service
Post by: Richie London on 27 June 2012, 09:23:14
I have been under the chronic pain team at my hospital for the last 18months now. 8 weeks ago i had an appt for my right shoulder which i am in agonizing pain. consultant said to me i should go to my gp's for another injection in it which the hospital did last yr. went to my doctors and was told it needs to be done at hospital as it has to be guided in by ultrasound. finally got my appt yesterday and had ultrascan and was told i need to go back to my doctors and get referred to an orthapeadic surgeon. i got so annoyed and demanded an answer why you are pecking me about. consultants reply. "we've been told to keep referring people elsewhere as we have no money to treat people" 18months I've been shuffled about different dept and still haven't had my shoulder sorted out. what a disgraceful state this country is in  >:( >:(
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Steve B on 27 June 2012, 09:26:30
i take it that its a steroid injection in the joint
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: the alarming man on 27 June 2012, 09:35:35
tbh richie that seems to be the way of the nhs..3 years i had been in pain with my leg/hip.. pushed from pillar to post it got a bit like this weel we will try this...well last year i had had enough...and like you did'nt get arsey with g.p but was firm and i asked why it was not diagnosed and sorted...that was in the setember...by feb of this year i had been x rayed 4 times cortozone injections and seen an orthopediac consultant...did get the answer i wanted...osteo arthritus but when i asked why it took sooo long the consultant replied....cost

should be about people and pain...not poxy balance sheets and acccountants... :y
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Richie London on 27 June 2012, 09:37:44
i take it that its a steroid injection in the joint

that's it. i planned on going back to work on a 10 week job Tuesday.I've no chance now. my gp is going to call me at 1pm to see what he can do now. im tempted to go back and batter the general manager for what they keep doing to me. they must of forgot what they did to me last yr
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Steve B on 27 June 2012, 09:57:09
I have been under the chronic pain team at my hospital for the last 18months now. 8 weeks ago i had an appt for my right shoulder which i am in agonizing pain. consultant said to me i should go to my gp's for another injection in it which the hospital did last yr. went to my doctors and was told it needs to be done at hospital as it has to be guided in by ultrasound. finally got my appt yesterday and had ultrascan and was told i need to go back to my doctors and get referred to an orthapeadic surgeon. i got so annoyed and demanded an answer why you are pecking me about. consultants reply. "we've been told to keep referring people elsewhere as we have no money to treat people" 18months I've been shuffled about different dept and still haven't had my shoulder sorted out. what a disgraceful state this country is in  >:( >:(
had it 3 times in each shoulder never used ultrasound..to add..gp cannot do it
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Richie London on 27 June 2012, 10:25:22
I have been under the chronic pain team at my hospital for the last 18months now. 8 weeks ago i had an appt for my right shoulder which i am in agonizing pain. consultant said to me i should go to my gp's for another injection in it which the hospital did last yr. went to my doctors and was told it needs to be done at hospital as it has to be guided in by ultrasound. finally got my appt yesterday and had ultrascan and was told i need to go back to my doctors and get referred to an orthapeadic surgeon. i got so annoyed and demanded an answer why you are pecking me about. consultants reply. "we've been told to keep referring people elsewhere as we have no money to treat people" 18months I've been shuffled about different dept and still haven't had my shoulder sorted out. what a disgraceful state this country is in  >:( >:(
had it 3 times in each shoulder never used ultrasound..to add..gp cannot do it

last yr mine was guided in to the places that were the problem. the following day i was on the golf course. i can't wait to get my balls out again :)
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Rods2 on 27 June 2012, 10:48:17
Sadly, until the link between treating patients and the hospital getting paid for this is established, NHS will always be a very, very poor but expensive to taxpayers system. Russia proved such command systems don't work, but politicians perpetuate the myth it is the best system in the world. In that case why do no other countries use such a system and why is the French system with a similar % of GDP spent so much better?

Einstein: Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

I've fortunately always had good health (touch wood), but friends and relations that have need treatment, the thing I notice is how long and drawn out the treatment is as you go through multiple appointments, with a 6 week delay between each of them. When my ex-wife had major back problems, it took a year to get it sorted out by this method, which meant much pain for 12 months and she couldn't work during this time. My dog gets a much service and treatment at our local vets.

Just shows what retards and fools the politicians are that rule us, where they defend the indefensible and continue with a very expensive white elephant called the NHS.
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 27 June 2012, 12:56:18
had similar with blood pressure bloody nightmare must have tried every pill and had every side effect ended up with hives in the end. sent me to a consultant and he was as much use as a handbrake on a boat prescribed the same pills i had just had a serious reaction too gp is just as bad he actually asks me what pills i havwe taken in the past  :o becuase hes to lazy to check my records.Got absolutly nowhere with the consulatant he refered me back to gp and he actually told me he did not know what to do. so prescribed betablockers bugger me thought i was going to die everytime i lifted something or worked...dont take anything now and feel so much better blood pressure is still on the high side
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 June 2012, 13:08:46
i take it that its a steroid injection in the joint


I've had two cortisone injections in my right shoulder. Done by my GP. :y
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 27 June 2012, 13:18:07
The stupid thing is that the cost isnt realy there.

The facilities, staff, buildings etc all ahev to be paid for and hence it should be more a case of focusing on maximum utilisation of using the resources there.....not shofting wooden dollars.
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Steve B on 27 June 2012, 13:41:16
i take it that its a steroid injection in the joint


I've had two cortisone injections in my right shoulder. Done by my GP. :y
when i had it done in rheumatology dept.they said gp not allowed to do it...liars
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Richie London on 27 June 2012, 17:13:30
My gp has been in touch with the hospital and complained of the treatmenti have received and are investigating it.  :y
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Lazydocker on 27 June 2012, 17:30:39
I've been getting the same up here... Saw the GP yesterday and we decided that, as my back has been getting progressively worse again over the last 12 weeks or so, I should go back and see the surgeon again to discuss options. It may be another bout of injections, it may be surgery :-\

So, armed with the number from the GP I rang yesterday morning to be rudely told by a surly secretary that I had to be referred again. The surgeon told me at my last appointment (September last year) that my referral would be held open for 12 months. The GP was under the same impression. She said that it was werong and I shouldn't have been told that and then hung up! >:(

This on top of them still not returning my MRI DVD which is my property because I had it done privately >:( The only (potential) plus side is that the GP thinks that the spinal team went to "Choose and Book" this month so I should get seen quicker ::) Perhaps the secretary thinks her days may be numbered now ::)

I'll certainly be lodging a complaint, but not until I know how long I'm going to be waiting for an appointment ::) Looks like I'll be back at the bottom of a 20+ week waiting list again, by which time (at the current rate of deterioration) means I'll barely be able to walk by the time I'm seen again :'(
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: jonathanh on 27 June 2012, 17:47:37
well I've been a bit surprised today - went to register at the GP.  process was painless, and I asked how appointments work - said they're available up to a month in advance.  I guess they're trying to get patients in.....

having said that, I do agree on the appointment system.  trouble is it ends up diverting money into running the booking system instead of treating people

NHS will never be perfect and it will always be overstretched but let's hope it will improve
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Lazydocker on 27 June 2012, 18:24:38
well I've been a bit surprised today - went to register at the GP.  process was painless, and I asked how appointments work - said they're available up to a month in advance.  I guess they're trying to get patients in.....

That's great but if they are anything like my GP you need to book your appointment 3 weeks in advance >:(

"Hello? Yes, I'll be ill in 3 weeks time... Can I have an appointment please?"
"Unfortunately we don't have any until 5 weeks on Monday" >:( ::)

Other option is to call at 8:30 and take an emergency appointment which involves everyone who has booked through this route turning up at 11 and waiting... Normally a couple of hours >:(

But, at least we do get to see doctors........



......eventually ::) :y
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 27 June 2012, 18:40:51
I took an ederly retired surgeon (88 he reckoned) to my local hospital the other day...

We had a nice chat on the way....as we approached the hospital.....he said to me....

In his day, a hospital was full of nurses/doctors and patients.....now its full of managers and administrators.....

I think he hit the nail on the head......
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: D on 27 June 2012, 22:30:54
I took an ederly retired surgeon (88 he reckoned) to my local hospital the other day...

We had a nice chat on the way....as we approached the hospital.....he said to me....

In his day, a hospital was full of nurses/doctors and patients.....now its full of managers and administrators.....

I think he hit the nail on the head......

Sad, but true. And it seems impossible to get them to understand that patients come first, not targets and numbers. Unfortunately the previous govt. seemed to love targets and numbers.
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Vamps on 27 June 2012, 22:51:09
i take it that its a steroid injection in the joint


I've had two cortisone injections in my right shoulder. Done by my GP. :y

I had one done in my right shoulder and that was by a GP, had a nursing appointment and they went and got a 'particular' Doc as it has to be done right...apparently..... :y :y
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 June 2012, 10:39:17
The fact that I'm still around is due to the fantastic service and treatment that I received from the NHS!!  :y :y :y

No complaints here!!!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Richie London on 11 July 2012, 12:58:36
Just had my appt to see orphapeadic consultant for my injections who has referred me back to the ultrasound dept for my injections.I was there 3 weeks ago who referred me to this one who is now referring me back. The language that went in the chief executves ear when i went to see her after was not very pleasant. now more waiting yet again.
Title: Re: state of the nhs service
Post by: Drewomega on 12 July 2012, 09:45:56
I have had 3 cortisone injections on my shoulder due to a skiing accident. It was done by my physio!