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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Del Boy on 01 July 2012, 10:54:49
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My eldest just got caught speeding on the motorway, basically the scenario is, motorbike up his arse, Golf in the third land, and the two other lanes are completely free of traffic. Anyway Golf moves over he goes past then slows back down. The bike behind him turns out to be an unmarked police bike. Basically it shows him doing from 80-90 MPH for the duration, then when he passes the Golf he got up to 103 for a couple of seconds then he slows back to around 85 MPH. They've said to him they've got to send it off to the court so they decide what to do. He could obviously receive a ban for this, is it likely he will?
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My eldest just got caught speeding on the motorway, basically the scenario is, motorbike up his arse, Golf in the third land, and the two other lanes are completely free of traffic. Anyway Golf moves over he goes past then slows back down. The bike behind him turns out to be an unmarked police bike. Basically it shows him doing from 80-90 MPH for the duration, then when he passes the Golf he got up to 103 for a couple of seconds then he slows back to around 85 MPH. They've said to him they've got to send it off to the court so they decide what to do. He could obviously receive a ban for this, is it likely he will?
At his age he might :-\
That could be a bit of a bugger with respect to our recent discussions :(
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Was always led to believe that if you passed 100mph its an automatic ban, unless of coarse your Sir Alex Ferguson and need a piss. Money talks unfortunately. >:( >:(
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6 points if he is lucky :(
28 days off the road if the judge is having a bad day :(
Hope he gets his story straight and eats lots of humble pie / I could lose my job ect :y
Groveling does work, I got tugged doing 96.92 on a B road :-[
Got away with 6 points and the bollocking of a lifetime :-[
Edit to say I was 28 years old and had a clean licence at the time
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My eldest just got caught speeding on the motorway, basically the scenario is, motorbike up his arse, Golf in the third land, and the two other lanes are completely free of traffic. Anyway Golf moves over he goes past then slows back down. The bike behind him turns out to be an unmarked police bike. Basically it shows him doing from 80-90 MPH for the duration, then when he passes the Golf he got up to 103 for a couple of seconds then he slows back to around 85 MPH. They've said to him they've got to send it off to the court so they decide what to do. He could obviously receive a ban for this, is it likely he will?
At his age he might :-\
That could be a bit of a bugger with respect to our recent discussions :(
That's my other son, eldest got caught speeding, youngest is our discussions :y
I hope he doesn't get nothing to serious, he's got a little one on the way due at the end of August, and where he's moving house, he needs the car for work.
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My eldest just got caught speeding on the motorway, basically the scenario is, motorbike up his arse, Golf in the third land, and the two other lanes are completely free of traffic. Anyway Golf moves over he goes past then slows back down. The bike behind him turns out to be an unmarked police bike. Basically it shows him doing from 80-90 MPH for the duration, then when he passes the Golf he got up to 103 for a couple of seconds then he slows back to around 85 MPH. They've said to him they've got to send it off to the court so they decide what to do. He could obviously receive a ban for this, is it likely he will?
At his age he might :-\
That could be a bit of a bugger with respect to our recent discussions :(
That's my other son, eldest got caught speeding, youngest is our discussions :y
I hope he doesn't get nothing to serious, he's got a little one on the way due at the end of August, and where he's moving house, he needs the car for work.
Selfishly, good news... I'll be in touch with you/him later for a chat and some details ;)
As for the other son... He needs to be humble and (if it goes to court) admit the offence immediately and make a reasonable representation as to the adverse effect it will have on his life ;)
(P.S. Just my opinion and no substitute for proper legal advice)
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at the worse he is looking at a 3 month ban (this is the minimum they will hand out) and 3 times a month salary fine trust me i know about thus...what eviedence have they got??....video??
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at the worse he is looking at a 3 month ban (this is the minimum they will hand out) and 3 times a month salary fine trust me i know about thus...what eviedence have they got??....video??
Video, he's watched it, and seen it says 103 for about two/three seconds then returns down to between 85-90.
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expecting anything other than a ban is almost certainly wishful thinking...... if he'd just moved over with the golf to "let the bike past" it would not have happened..... lesson about to be sorely learned i suspect......
sorry...... sucks, but it is a lesson in "intelligent speeding"
the law says what it says, it doesn't anywhere say "thou may safely do 85-90" without fear of being nicked"..... so even if he had only gone up to 99, he could easily still be looking at a large slap on the wrist.
best not drive to court......
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Anything more than double the limit (eg, 60 in a 30) or doing a ton or more is an automatic ban unless the driver can prove extenuating circumstances.
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A ban is very likely.Worth investing in a good solicitor imo. :y
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That's into ban territory really. Only hope you really have is he only sped up for the duration of the overtake then slowed down again and that is accounted for. At which point I presume he slowed down and kept with the traffic flow. They will however argue that he was still speeding in the first place, even if he was just keeping with the traffic.
Good luck!
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Going off the magistrates guidelines (and depending how the judge feels whilst getting outa bed) -
A court summons will be likely, a fine of at least £60 and between 6-9 penalty points. It is possible that an automatic ban will be received due to topping 100mph. But if you plead for your license - need it for work, family commitments etc. the judge MAY be lenient.
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My eldest just got caught speeding on the motorway, basically the scenario is, motorbike up his arse, Golf in the third land, and the two other lanes are completely free of traffic. Anyway Golf moves over he goes past then slows back down. The bike behind him turns out to be an unmarked police bike. Basically it shows him doing from 80-90 MPH for the duration, then when he passes the Golf he got up to 103 for a couple of seconds then he slows back to around 85 MPH. They've said to him they've got to send it off to the court so they decide what to do. He could obviously receive a ban for this, is it likely he will?
How close Del, may be relevent in mitigation ;)
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May also be impossible to prove. ;)
The fact that the copper is apparently reporting the fact that he exceeded 100mph,suggests to me that he is going for the ban.
Otherwise,he could just report a speed of ninety something ans a ban probably wouldnt be on the cards.
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My eldest just got caught speeding on the motorway, basically the scenario is, motorbike up his arse, Golf in the third land, and the two other lanes are completely free of traffic. Anyway Golf moves over he goes past then slows back down. The bike behind him turns out to be an unmarked police bike. Basically it shows him doing from 80-90 MPH for the duration, then when he passes the Golf he got up to 103 for a couple of seconds then he slows back to around 85 MPH. They've said to him they've got to send it off to the court so they decide what to do. He could obviously receive a ban for this, is it likely he will?
How close Del, may be relevent in mitigation ;)
That's exactly what I said :y, but my son came back with "I've done it, can't do nothing about it now, it's not worth the hassle".
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My eldest just got caught speeding on the motorway, basically the scenario is, motorbike up his arse, Golf in the third land, and the two other lanes are completely free of traffic. Anyway Golf moves over he goes past then slows back down. The bike behind him turns out to be an unmarked police bike. Basically it shows him doing from 80-90 MPH for the duration, then when he passes the Golf he got up to 103 for a couple of seconds then he slows back to around 85 MPH. They've said to him they've got to send it off to the court so they decide what to do. He could obviously receive a ban for this, is it likely he will?
How close Del, may be relevent in mitigation ;)
All IMHO, but not worth arguing in court... There's video evidence so he's bang to rights ::)
Best bet is to show remorse and show reasons not to lose the license :-\
Again, just IMHO ;)
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i was once in court for leaving the scene of an accident,the annoying thing is i got free advice from my insurance company that said i didnt have to report the accident(i knocked a wall down)because details were exchanged between the owner.my employer at the time wrote me a blinding letter of my character and the need for my license to help him with the business and the court awarded me the maximum points they could give without disqualifying me and to pay costs.i know the scenario is different but a letter from his boss could go a long way
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My eldest just got caught speeding on the motorway, basically the scenario is, motorbike up his arse, Golf in the third land, and the two other lanes are completely free of traffic. Anyway Golf moves over he goes past then slows back down. The bike behind him turns out to be an unmarked police bike. Basically it shows him doing from 80-90 MPH for the duration, then when he passes the Golf he got up to 103 for a couple of seconds then he slows back to around 85 MPH. They've said to him they've got to send it off to the court so they decide what to do. He could obviously receive a ban for this, is it likely he will?
How close Del, may be relevent in mitigation ;)
That ain't gonna work. Speeding is speeding. Just because someone is close behind, it does not mean you are obliged to drive faster
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I got could a few years ago doing an average of 101.7mph on the motorway and I got a 7 day ban + £200 fine & No points!!
A friend at work got caught doing 109mph and he got 6 points + £250 fine
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I got reported for 104MPH on the M1 by an unmarked plod a few years ago and went to court, apologised said " All my fault won't do it again blah Blah" 3 points £60 fine, RESULT :y :y It all depends who's on the bench I'm afraid, no point bullshiting or pleading hardship, he did it therefore pays the penalty :(
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fine will be earnings related I would assume. maybe worth using a solicitor. When my son got done for 93 on M4 he copped for £800 despite turning up and grovelling.
Seems as though if you plead guilty the police do not enter any further evidence at court - so if you have pleaded guilty and pitch up with a solicitor to plead mitigating circumstances the bench have nobody interested in contesting your story - can result in big reduction in potential fine.
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Was always led to believe that if you passed 100mph its an automatic ban, unless of coarse your Sir Alex Ferguson and need a piss. Money talks unfortunately. >:( >:(
Or Mark Milton of West Mercia Police. Jack Straws chauffeur etc etc ::) ::) >:( >:(
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Was always led to believe that if you passed 100mph its an automatic ban, unless of coarse your Sir Alex Ferguson and need a piss. Money talks unfortunately. >:( >:(
Or Mark Milton of West Mercia Police. Jack Straws chauffeur etc etc ::) ::) >:( >:(
.............or me. :)
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Was always led to believe that if you passed 100mph its an automatic ban, unless of coarse your Sir Alex Ferguson and need a piss. Money talks unfortunately. >:( >:(
Or Mark Milton of West Mercia Police. Jack Straws chauffeur etc etc ::) ::) >:( >:(
.............or me. :)
Ditto :-X :-X :-X ;)
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Should have bought a lottery ticket that week. ::) ;D
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Should have bought a lottery ticket that week. ::) ;D
Indeed... Although (as you know) the situation of mine was such that being polite paid dividends :y It doesn't always :-X but has served me well so far :y
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Same approach worked for me. :y............it was actually bordering on begging,but when your licence is at stake.... ;) ;D ;D
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One of my bro's got off with 6 points and a stonking fine for doing 118mph a few years back. He had a letter from his then boss, a well known ex-F1 team principal, stating character, and how he was trained in high performance cars. He did seriously kiss the judges arse, which I think is the only way forward.
Expect a ban. Anything less is an extreme bonus.
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Same approach worked for me. :y............it was actually bordering on begging,but when your licence is at stake.... ;) ;D ;D
Indeed, there are times where principals have to be locked away.
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I have managed to beg/arselick my way out of a few tickets over the years,didn't work the last time though,bloody Gatso wasn't for talking :'( :'(
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One of the things that could go in your favour is insight into the error. One of my friends, who is a solicitor, was talking about this at a get together a few years ago. Allegedly in the SE, the judges look kindly on people who have realised the error of their ways and self refer themselves to a speed awareness course, thereby demonstrating a willingness to learn from the mistake. Obviously this is only hearsay, but I can understand the logic behind it, rather than just turning up and begging, you have proactively demonstrated the desire to curb your speed/learn from your mistake etc.
Once again hearsay, but worth thinking about. Remember there is no point retrospectively thinking about what could have been done to mitigate the punishment once it has been dished out.