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Title: Lucky Escape
Post by: peter the butcher on 02 July 2013, 20:06:17
this is daft,  ;D ;D ;D
but went out to the car (not locked at work) to go back home the other day, put key in, all lights came up then went out as per usual, and turned her over, nowt, nothing, ziltch, engine turned over, but did not catch. sugar. locked it up, went for a cuppa, and the lad working with me said was prob the immobilizer, lol, It was, opened car, put key in, and drove off. Must have been a ghost or something. I had only got there 2 hrs before. Time for new key fob I think, just incase ???

peter
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: Andy B on 02 July 2013, 20:08:47
this is daft,  ;D ;D ;D
but went out to the car (not locked at work) to go back home the other day, put key in, all lights came up then went out as per usual, and turned her over, nowt, nothing, ziltch, engine turned over, but did not catch. sugar. locked it up, went for a cuppa, and the lad working with me said was prob the immobilizer, lol, It was, opened car, put key in, and drove off. Must have been a ghost or something. I had only got there 2 hrs before. Time for new key fob I think, just incase ???

peter

Immobilisers work or they don't. Have you done a pedal test? Could be a failing crank sensor  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: symes on 02 July 2013, 20:20:50
this is daft,  ;D ;D ;D
but went out to the car (not locked at work) to go back home the other day, put key in, all lights came up then went out as per usual, and turned her over, nowt, nothing, ziltch, engine turned over, but did not catch. sugar. locked it up, went for a cuppa, and the lad working with me said was prob the immobilizer, lol, It was, opened car, put key in, and drove off. Must have been a ghost or something. I had only got there 2 hrs before. Time for new key fob I think, just incase ???

peter

Immobilisers work or they don't. Have you done a pedal test? Could be a failing crank sensor  :-\ :-\
will be  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: Andy B on 02 July 2013, 20:23:55
.....
will be  ;) ;)

OK  ;) ..... it will  :y
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: symes on 02 July 2013, 20:27:18
well its a v6 and 2.6---so odds are-------what----crank sensor---
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: Andy B on 02 July 2013, 20:34:47
Peter

Buy a genuine sensor  ;) it's cheaper in the end and you only do it once.  :y
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: symes on 02 July 2013, 20:37:09
Peter

Buy a genuine sensor  ;) it's cheaper in the end and you only do it once.  :y
+1 :y :y
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: Entwood on 02 July 2013, 23:20:20
Could also be a loose immobilisor chip in the key fob  ... check its not worked loose ... a little drop of superglue may solve the problem .. as the chip "moves" inside the key whilst the fob is in your pocket .. with luck its in the right place when you go to start .. or it won't ..... took me weeks of intermittent starting to find that out ... :(
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: ajsphead on 03 July 2013, 08:20:54
Peter

Buy a genuine sensor  ;) it's cheaper in the end and you only do it once.  :y
+1 :y :y

Don't put money on it. I had a genuine one fail after about 3 months.
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: dbug on 03 July 2013, 20:38:11
Peter

Buy a genuine sensor  ;) it's cheaper in the end and you only do it once.  :y
+1 :y :y

Don't put money on it. I had a genuine one fail after about 3 months.
Likewise, except mine only lasted weeks!  Another genuine Vx one then ok
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: peter the butcher on 04 July 2013, 16:16:58
hi all,
many thank you's for the ideas  :y. Its been a few days now, and am waiting for the car to be "read", but what happened just seemed like a one off, but better be safe than sorry. Its started within a turn of the key, so it does seem like it was the locking system, but am having it checked out next week, as I will be going away on holiday for a few days, and do not fancy coming back to a "non starter" :(

Peter
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: Andy B on 04 July 2013, 16:34:20
hi all,
many thank you's for the ideas  :y. Its been a few days now, and am waiting for the car to be "read", but what happened just seemed like a one off, but better be safe than sorry. Its started within a turn of the key, so it does seem like it was the locking system, but am having it checked out next week, as I will be going away on holiday for a few days, and do not fancy coming back to a "non starter" :(

Peter

Have you done the 'pedal trick' on your car? It might just show you a crank sensor fault.  :y
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: symes on 04 July 2013, 16:59:42
hi all,
many thank you's for the ideas  :y. Its been a few days now, and am waiting for the car to be "read", but what happened just seemed like a one off, but better be safe than sorry. Its started within a turn of the key, so it does seem like it was the locking system, but am having it checked out next week, as I will be going away on holiday for a few days, and do not fancy coming back to a "non starter" :(

Peter

Have you done the 'pedal trick' on your car? It might just show you a crank sensor fault.  :y
every body told him that its crank sensor ;)
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: peter the butcher on 04 July 2013, 17:39:43
hi all,
many thank you's for the ideas  :y. Its been a few days now, and am waiting for the car to be "read", but what happened just seemed like a one off, but better be safe than sorry. Its started within a turn of the key, so it does seem like it was the locking system, but am having it checked out next week, as I will be going away on holiday for a few days, and do not fancy coming back to a "non starter" :(

Peter

Have you done the 'pedal trick' on your car? It might just show you a crank sensor fault.  :y
not as yet Andy
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: Andy B on 04 July 2013, 20:28:28
hi all,
many thank you's for the ideas  :y. Its been a few days now, and am waiting for the car to be "read", but what happened just seemed like a one off, but better be safe than sorry. Its started within a turn of the key, so it does seem like it was the locking system, but am having it checked out next week, as I will be going away on holiday for a few days, and do not fancy coming back to a "non starter" :(

Peter

Have you done the 'pedal trick' on your car? It might just show you a crank sensor fault.  :y
every body told him that its crank sensor ;)

I know  ::) I was the first to tell him  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: Andy B on 04 July 2013, 20:29:49
hi all,
many thank you's for the ideas  :y. Its been a few days now, and am waiting for the car to be "read", but what happened just seemed like a one off, but better be safe than sorry. Its started within a turn of the key, so it does seem like it was the locking system, but am having it checked out next week, as I will be going away on holiday for a few days, and do not fancy coming back to a "non starter" :(

Peter

Have you done the 'pedal trick' on your car? It might just show you a crank sensor fault.  :y
not as yet Andy

It'll take you a couple of minutes. Easier to do it at your convenience rather than the car die again at some other in-convenient time.  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: Andy B on 04 July 2013, 20:32:22
see http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=116005.0;all  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: ffcgary1 on 04 July 2013, 21:54:41
Not sure if it is me but the op said that it did zilch zero nothing, not turned over but failed to start so from that I would say it is not the crank sensor, but more likkey an imobilser fault or even a poor battery connection. If the car had tried to start as in engine spins over on the starter but failed to start then I would agree but he also needs to get the codes read first.
Can the op please confirm the symptoms .
Gary.
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: Andy B on 04 July 2013, 22:05:05
Not sure if it is me but the op said that it did zilch zero nothing, not turned over but  .....

this is daft,  ;D ;D ;D
but went out to the car (not locked at work) to go back home the other day, put key in, all lights came up then went out as per usual, and turned her over, nowt, nothing, ziltch, engine turned over, but did not catch. sugar.  ......
peter

 ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: ffcgary1 on 04 July 2013, 22:35:52
ah!!!! must get some reading glasses and increase the size of the font on my tablet, ok i concur crank sensor it is, my bad.
Now! where's my coat.?
Gary.
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: symes on 04 July 2013, 23:11:23
ah!!!! must get some reading glasses and increase the size of the font on my tablet, ok i concur crank sensor it is, my bad.
Now! where's my coat.?
Gary.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: dbug on 04 July 2013, 23:15:25
Not sure if it is me but the op said that it did zilch zero nothing, not turned over but failed to start so from that I would say it is not the crank sensor, but more likkey an imobilser fault or even a poor battery connection. If the car had tried to start as in engine spins over on the starter but failed to start then I would agree but he also needs to get the codes read first.
Can the op please confirm the symptoms .
Gary.

If it was an immobiliser fault, wouldn't stop engine turning over 8)  Just would't fire and light would flash

As stated by me and others - ctrank sensor ;)
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: peter the butcher on 05 July 2013, 14:37:39
Not sure if it is me but the op said that it did zilch zero nothing, not turned over but failed to start so from that I would say it is not the crank sensor, but more likkey an imobilser fault or even a poor battery connection. If the car had tried to start as in engine spins over on the starter but failed to start then I would agree but he also needs to get the codes read first.
Can the op please confirm the symptoms .
Gary.

the car did turn over, but failed to start. But its ok now, I put it down to inadvertently pressing the key fob, as have done the pedal test, with nothing coming up. But have a good mate who has a couple of code readers, and he said he will "give it the once over".
As of today (fri) its been all ok, touch wood

Peter
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 July 2013, 15:54:06
Has anyone mentioned that it could be the crank sensor? ;)
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: Andy B on 05 July 2013, 15:55:10
Has anyone mentioned that it could be the crank sensor? ;)

not yet  ;) ;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: peter the butcher on 05 July 2013, 16:31:03
Has anyone mentioned that it could be the crank sensor? ;)

crank sensor, never heard of it  :D
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: symes on 05 July 2013, 17:12:38
Has anyone mentioned that it could be the crank sensor? ;)

crank sensor, never heard of it  :D

it lets you know wether you got a crank or not ;D ;D ;D ;D everyone knows that ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: Rods2 on 05 July 2013, 18:25:55
Has anyone mentioned that it could be the crank sensor? ;)

crank sensor, never heard of it  :D

it lets you know wether you got a crank or not ;D ;D ;D ;D everyone knows that ;D ;D

Plenty of eccentrics on OOF and I don't think there are any cranks.  :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: ffcgary1 on 05 July 2013, 20:37:46
Oh i beg to differ, i can get a bit crankie now and then. ::)
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: peter the butcher on 12 July 2013, 14:57:14
well its a v6 and 2.6---so odds are-------what----crank sensor---

 :( Well it happened again today, and have done the "pedal test", and guess what? its only showing 335
 so guess I had better get a sensor. Easier said than done tho, am going way for a few days abroad next tues, I just hope she starts when I get back, had no problems since the last time tho. Shit happens, as they say

Peter
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: Andy B on 12 July 2013, 15:53:20
well its a v6 and 2.6---so odds are-------what----crank sensor---

 :( Well it happened again today, and have done the "pedal test", and guess what? its only showing 335
 so guess I had better get a sensor. Easier said than done tho, am going way for a few days abroad next tues, I just hope she starts when I get back, had no problems since the last time tho. Shit happens, as they say

Peter

 :-X  :-X  :-X  :-X  :-X  :-X ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: PhilRich on 12 July 2013, 16:20:01
Crank Sensor change on a V6 is reasonably quick with fairly easy access iirc :-\
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90540.0
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: peter the butcher on 12 July 2013, 16:31:38
I have looked for a new one, there are a myriad of them (Ebay) have rang a dealer, and the parts lad was thick as two short bricks, said there were two (well its is hot, and it is a fri afternoon @4.15 pm)
If anyone has a suggestion, its a
2001 V6 2.6 automatic
thanks for any help, I am useless at decision making  ;D ;D

Peter
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 July 2013, 16:45:02
I would just order a new genuine one from AndyC. Chances are a local dealer would have to order in anyway, and I wouldn't trust one off ebay.
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: symes on 12 July 2013, 18:20:38
I would just order a new genuine one from AndyC. Chances are a local dealer would have to order in anyway, and I wouldn't trust one off ebay.
+1 :y :y
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: peter the butcher on 12 July 2013, 19:05:10
I would just order a new genuine one from AndyC. Chances are a local dealer would have to order in anyway, and I wouldn't trust one off ebay.

PM sent, going to order one off him
thanks

Peter
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: ffcgary1 on 12 July 2013, 19:23:34
Andyc is away from work until wed, annual holiday, so there will be a delay in supply. 8)
Title: Re: Lucky Escape
Post by: peter the butcher on 12 July 2013, 19:30:49
Andyc is away from work until wed, annual holiday, so there will be a delay in supply. 8)

 well I am in Majorca from Tuesday for a week ;D ;D ;D ;D
jst to avoid the crap british weather, got that wrong I guess for next few days

Peter