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Title: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2013, 12:13:49
Discovered the problem, but for a bit of fun, any guesses as to:

a) why it stopped working (it appeared dead)
b) root cause (actual, not just "designed by an imbecille, and manufactured by someone even more stupid")
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: pscocoa on 05 October 2013, 12:24:22
Internally Fractured mains lead or on/off switch - usual
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2013, 12:27:02
Internally Fractured mains lead or on/off switch - usual
Strangely enough, this one is on its original switch, 17(?) years old as a guess. One of the few original parts ;D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Andy B on 05 October 2013, 12:28:55
Discovered the problem, but for a bit of fun, any guesses as to:

a) why it stopped working (it appeared dead)
b) root cause (actual, not just "designed by an imbecille, and manufactured by someone even more stupid")

I can assume that it's not you that's breaking it ......  'hoovering' must be a pink job  ::)  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2013, 12:33:27
Discovered the problem, but for a bit of fun, any guesses as to:

a) why it stopped working (it appeared dead)
b) root cause (actual, not just "designed by an imbecille, and manufactured by someone even more stupid")

I can assume that it's not you that's breaking it ......  'hoovering' must be a pink job  ::)  ::)  ::)
Indeed. Blue job to fix, apparently  :'(
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Steve B on 05 October 2013, 12:36:53
Internally Fractured mains lead or on/off switch - usual
Strangely enough, this one is on its original switch, 17(?) years old as a guess. One of the few original parts ;D
You want your moneys worth dont you. Spent too much time around tunnie  ;D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: bigegg on 05 October 2013, 12:45:13
Discovered the problem, but for a bit of fun, any guesses as to:

a) why it stopped working (it appeared dead)
b) root cause (actual, not just "designed by an imbecille, and manufactured by someone even more stupid")
a. took the fuse out to use in something else
b. forgot you (someone  ::) ) took the fuse out for something else
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Andy B on 05 October 2013, 12:54:46
Just put your hand into your pocket & buy a new one  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: albitz on 05 October 2013, 12:55:36
The problem is....................Dysons are shite. ;D
Funky looking things,but not much good at actually sucking up stuff from the floor. :)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Steve B on 05 October 2013, 13:04:02
Lets say it cost you £100...17 yrs ago
Thats 11,5p per week to run a cleaner....tight git  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Andy B on 05 October 2013, 13:08:37
The problem is....................Dysons are shite. ;D
Funky looking things,but not much good at actually sucking up stuff from the floor. :)

I agree that they're not bolted together that well, but I think they vacuum pretty well ....... certainly better that a bagged 'hoover'
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: albitz on 05 October 2013, 13:11:40
The problem is....................Dysons are shite. ;D
Funky looking things,but not much good at actually sucking up stuff from the floor. :)

I agree that they're not bolted together that well, but I think they vacuum pretty well ....... certainly better that a bagged 'hoover'

Nope. try a Sebo. Don't look very funky but far superior to Dyson in every department. ;)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Andy B on 05 October 2013, 13:32:37
....

Nope. try a Sebo. Don't look very funky but far superior to Dyson in every department. ;)

Just had to Google it ... I've never heard of one  ???
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 October 2013, 13:40:45
Nor had I until mother presented me with a £250 bill for the one that she bought to replace the Electrolux cylinder that I broke. Apparently it wasn't designed to hoover the car with :-\
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Terbs on 05 October 2013, 13:49:13
Shrapnel damage !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: chrisgixer on 05 October 2013, 13:52:39
Nout wrong with Dyson. (When they work/she hasn't lobbed it down the stairs)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2013, 13:55:26
The problem is....................Dysons are shite. ;D
Funky looking things,but not much good at actually sucking up stuff from the floor. :)
I agree with the first bit, but not with 2nd. If your dyson is not sucking that well (as they do after a year or so), wash the filter as you're supposed to every few months, and get an airline on the cyclone to blow on the shite out. And unwrap Mrs TB's threads and craft crap from the brush bar ;D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2013, 13:58:10
Been to shops to buy some bits to repair it, needless to say Brackley DIY were closed, as I got there just gone 1pm, and its half day closing  >:(. So had to go to that pikey car shop in town.  Now need to wait for my best mate to come home from one of his classes, so I can go and nick some tools...
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: AndyRoid on 05 October 2013, 14:07:30
Internally Fractured mains lead or on/off switch - usual
Strangely enough, this one is on its original switch, 17(?) years old as a guess. One of the few original parts ;D

Trigger's broom?  ;D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2013, 14:12:21
Internally Fractured mains lead or on/off switch - usual
Strangely enough, this one is on its original switch, 17(?) years old as a guess. One of the few original parts ;D

Trigger's broom?  ;D
Its a Dyson. 'nuf said.


Plastics in dishtosher, don't tell Mrs TB
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: albitz on 05 October 2013, 14:24:17
The problem is....................Dysons are shite. ;D
Funky looking things,but not much good at actually sucking up stuff from the floor. :)
I agree with the first bit, but not with 2nd. If your dyson is not sucking that well (as they do after a year or so), wash the filter as you're supposed to every few months, and get an airline on the cyclone to blow on the shite out. And unwrap Mrs TB's threads and craft crap from the brush bar ;D

Been through all that when we had one,but the fact is there are other brands out there that do the job much better whether brand new or several years old. Of course,it isnt easy to know that until you try something different to compare. ;)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 October 2013, 14:30:00
Found our Dyson to be absolute crap :-\ it really didn't agree with dog hair, I guess being all plastic, the static stopped the cyclone in its tracks. Used to have to strip it every couple of months to unclog it ::) and yes the filters were changed regularly :P

The 1990 Electrolux the the Dyson was supposed to replace finally died last year when some tuesday (not me) used it to hoover some puke from their car. Paper bags aren't particularly water tolerant, let alone stomach acid proof >:(
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2013, 14:39:16
The problem is....................Dysons are shite. ;D
Funky looking things,but not much good at actually sucking up stuff from the floor. :)
I agree with the first bit, but not with 2nd. If your dyson is not sucking that well (as they do after a year or so), wash the filter as you're supposed to every few months, and get an airline on the cyclone to blow on the shite out. And unwrap Mrs TB's threads and craft crap from the brush bar ;D

Been through all that when we had one,but the fact is there are other brands out there that do the job much better whether brand new or several years old. Of course,it isnt easy to know that until you try something different to compare. ;)
A good friend of my eldest bro runs a hire shop. So, as my friggin' Dyson was bust at the time, over a pleasant keo beer and mousaka, we got chatting about what he hires out. I nearly fell off my chair when he says Dysons ;D.  Convinced he was pulling my plonker, I let him explain why - reliability (!!!!) even when abused, performance, and dead easy to fix/service. The first 2 being critical to him, as he doesn't want complaints, although the latter impacts profit as well.
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2013, 14:44:12
Found our Dyson to be absolute crap :-\ it really didn't agree with dog hair, I guess being all plastic, the static stopped the cyclone in its tracks. Used to have to strip it every couple of months to unclog it ::) and yes the filters were changed regularly :P

The 1990 Electrolux the the Dyson was supposed to replace finally died last year when some tuesday (not me) used it to hoover some puke from their car. Paper bags aren't particularly water tolerant, let alone stomach acid proof >:(
Our festering old moggie causes the dyson much distress. I say get rid of the cat, but Mrs TB says I can go first ;D. I know my place ;D.

But a blast with the airline sorts it. Its due again, so I might have to pay BP 50p ;D

Our old vac lost a fight with a vegetable rack ::)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Rods2 on 05 October 2013, 14:52:19
My 20 something year old Aquavac is still going strong, the carpet cleaning plastic bits have seen better days but still work and suction is 2nd to none. Only down side where it is an industrial style cleaner is that it is very noisy. It was also a good price where I got change out of £100, cheaper and much better than the VAX it replaced.  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: aaronjb on 05 October 2013, 15:58:43
Lets say it cost you £100...17 yrs ago
Thats 11,5p per week to run a cleaner....tight git  ;D ;D ;D

Reckon mine was more like £200 about 10 years ago.. so about £6 per vacuum.. ;D  :-[
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 05 October 2013, 17:49:41
Had Dyson's now for almost twenty years, in fact since the DC01 was launches in 1995.

I have always found them to be excellent, always functioning brilliantly, and lasting longer than my urge to 'update'.  Hence I have now just acquired my latest, a DC40 Animal which is even better than the earlier models, plus also buying a cordless version for the car, a DC34 which is equally impressive for what it is meant to do.

Having tried many vacuum cleaners before the age of Dyson, and used other people's various makes and types, I can fairly say Dyson are the best vacuums I have ever used.

Their wonderful hand dryers are also setting that market alight, ousting so many of the near useless hand dryers you found in the ladies that could hardly take the drops of water away from your hands! ::) ::) ::) ::)

 :y :y
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 October 2013, 18:46:45
Mrs Opti's uses an elderly DC01 Dyson.

It makes much more noise than it used to in it's prime, but then we use it for anything and everything, including cement dust. :y
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2013, 19:42:57
Fully fixed and working again...  ...but she's not allowed to use it until the filter dries.


No further guesses as to the fault?
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Andy B on 05 October 2013, 20:11:55
Fully fixed and working again...  ...but she's not allowed to use it until the filter dries.

Are we still taking about the Dyson or you?  ::)


No further guesses as to the fault?

No  ;)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Broomies Mate on 05 October 2013, 20:55:04
As Lizzie says, you cannot beat a Dyson.  Build quality is excellent and they pick up like no other.

Sill using a DC12 after lending a later model to a family member and not getting it back!  ::)

On top of it's excellence, should you need anything for it within FIVE years of purchase, Dyson will come to your house and remedy any issues FREE OF CHARGE.  Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Kirby et al!

Remember kids, keep your filters clean and empty it properly.
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 October 2013, 20:55:54
Was it used to clear up water from yet another dishwasher leak :-\
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: albitz on 05 October 2013, 21:00:19
As Lizzie says, you cannot beat a Dyson.  Build quality is excellent and they pick up like no other.

Sill using a DC12 after lending a later model to a family member and not getting it back!  ::)

On top of it's excellence, should you need anything for it within FIVE years of purchase, Dyson will come to your house and remedy any issues FREE OF CHARGE.  Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Kirby et al!

Remember kids, keep your filters clean and empty it properly.

Sorry,but that's not true. Iirc they were prosecuted for trying to claim something similar. There are better vacuums,but they aren't generally in high street shops,and they tend to be a bit more expensive.

http://www.sebo.co.uk/domestic-vacuum-cleaners/
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Broomies Mate on 05 October 2013, 21:41:13
As Lizzie says, you cannot beat a Dyson.  Build quality is excellent and they pick up like no other.

Sill using a DC12 after lending a later model to a family member and not getting it back!  ::)

On top of it's excellence, should you need anything for it within FIVE years of purchase, Dyson will come to your house and remedy any issues FREE OF CHARGE.  Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Kirby et al!

Remember kids, keep your filters clean and empty it properly.

Sorry,but that's not true. Iirc they were prosecuted for trying to claim something similar. There are better vacuums,but they aren't generally in high street shops,and they tend to be a bit more expensive.

http://www.sebo.co.uk/domestic-vacuum-cleaners/

Never seen one, so obviously never used one.

I'd wager a weeks earnings my old Dyson would out-perform that.

And no, I'm not suggesting we have a Vacuum meet!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: albitz on 05 October 2013, 22:15:10
We had Dysons for years,then got one of those.The improvement was staggering. ;)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 06 October 2013, 06:42:58
As Lizzie says, you cannot beat a Dyson.  Build quality is excellent and they pick up like no other.

Sill using a DC12 after lending a later model to a family member and not getting it back!  ::)

On top of it's excellence, should you need anything for it within FIVE years of purchase, Dyson will come to your house and remedy any issues FREE OF CHARGE.  Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Kirby et al!

Remember kids, keep your filters clean and empty it properly.

Dyson didnt always offer 5 yrs warranty.....i had one that was one yr warranty....18 months old it caught fire! never had another one and never will! The bagless Vax i bought to replace the Dyson works just fine  :y
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 06 October 2013, 18:48:33
Fault:

(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/oof_odds_and_sods/dyson1.JPG)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 06 October 2013, 18:49:35
Fix (in progress, slightly modified before putting together)

(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/oof_odds_and_sods/dyson2.JPG)

(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/oof_odds_and_sods/dyson3.JPG)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: pscocoa on 06 October 2013, 18:52:01
you said it appeared dead - so what exactly was the issue?
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 06 October 2013, 18:58:17
you said it appeared dead - so what exactly was the issue?
Ah yes, the root cause was the pins that prevent the motor rotating in the housing had both broken.

The motor, although held fairly tightly, had gradually rotated, and the neutral spade connector had pulled apart.
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: dbdb on 07 October 2013, 21:25:22
In my experience the only worse make than a Dyson (filterless with filters!)  is a Vax.  Vax combine the crap material quality and over pricing of Dyson with stupid design and instructions. 

Best makes I've found are Numatic (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/medium/05/050512371.jpg?4) and the bullet proof Earlex (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/medium/05/050510045.jpg?2)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: chrisgixer on 07 October 2013, 21:58:14
Trouble with those is they mark and take lumps out of the skirting, walls and door frames where it gets pulled round the house, ime.
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: flyer 0712 on 08 October 2013, 10:01:05
I was told when i first bought a dyson not to throw the box away as i would soon need it to send it back faulty...i have had a dyson for 7 years and still going strong which i now use for my car and garage and my other one which is only 18 months old i use in the house..i have always used a dyson... i found dyson is best especially for pet hair...would not use any other vacum cleaner...And i still have the two boxes in the loft taking up valuable space as never needed them....So i agree with Lizzie..... :y :y
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: aaronjb on 08 October 2013, 10:36:48
the bullet proof Earlex (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/medium/05/050510045.jpg?2)

That is identical in all but colour to the Wickes own brand bagless wet/dry vac - I have two of those, they're that good. Amy hates them, sadly, but I love 'em; I've used them to empty the inspection pit of water & oil, including wet rags, concrete dust, leaves, stones, and occasionally even the house.. ;D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 October 2013, 11:29:22
the bullet proof Earlex (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/medium/05/050510045.jpg?2)

That is identical in all but colour to the Wickes own brand bagless wet/dry vac - I have two of those, they're that good. Amy hates them, sadly, but I love 'em; I've used them to empty the inspection pit of water & oil, including wet rags, concrete dust, leaves, stones, and occasionally even the house.. ;D

I have a similar looking thing from Lidl which cost about £35 iirc about 5 years ago :y It'll suck the chrome off a towbar and the only issue that I have with it is that the filter bag is falling apart and I cant find a replacement.  :-\  A pair of tights will do the trick I think.....  ;)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 08 October 2013, 12:48:22
I was told when i first bought a dyson not to throw the box away as i would soon need it to send it back faulty...i have had a dyson for 7 years and still going strong which i now use for my car and garage and my other one which is only 18 months old i use in the house..i have always used a dyson... i found dyson is best especially for pet hair...would not use any other vacum cleaner...And i still have the two boxes in the loft taking up valuable space as never needed them....So i agree with Lizzie..... :y :y


.............and what you have found is exactly what all of us Dyson fans have experienced.  Great quality, wonderful performance, tremendous reliability (saying that after now owning 6 Dyson's), and long lasting. Any that do fail are down to a lack of simple maintenance- filter cleaning - or serious abuse.

I have also found some people who run down Dyson's due to "cost" or something else, but when questioned have never actually owned one!  They have just listened  to some biased anti-comment from some who have adopted a "snooty" attitude to Dyson machines! ::) ::) ::) :P :P
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: aaronjb on 08 October 2013, 13:22:44
I should add I also have a DC01 .. it struggles to pick dust up, let alone anything really stubborn (and, yes, I've changed all the filters etc etc - it's been like that since the day it arrived)..
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: henryd on 08 October 2013, 13:27:09
I was told when i first bought a dyson not to throw the box away as i would soon need it to send it back faulty...i have had a dyson for 7 years and still going strong which i now use for my car and garage and my other one which is only 18 months old i use in the house..i have always used a dyson... i found dyson is best especially for pet hair...would not use any other vacum cleaner...And i still have the two boxes in the loft taking up valuable space as never needed them....So i agree with Lizzie..... :y :y


.............and what you have found is exactly what all of us Dyson fans have experienced.  Great quality, wonderful performance, tremendous reliability (saying that after now owning 6 Dyson's), and long lasting. Any that do fail are down to a lack of simple maintenance- filter cleaning - or serious abuse.

I have also found some people who run down Dyson's due to "cost" or something else, but when questioned have never actually owned one!  They have just listened  to some biased anti-comment from some who have adopted a "snooty" attitude to Dyson machines! ::) ::) ::) :P :P

Why would you need six if there that good ???,we have had one Miele and have still got it after many years of good service,its the "cat and dog" version,very good it is too :y

(and at the time it wasn't cheaper,don't know about now though)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: dbdb on 08 October 2013, 17:02:05
Yes I forgot Miele they are meant to be very good, never had one myself but friends speak very highly of them, if you want to spend a lot on a cleaner spend it on a Miele not a Dyson.

My first and last Dyson was an early model I think the DC01.  I very soon discovered that although 'bagless' you do have to replace these
(http://www.appliance-extras.co.uk/shopimages/products/normal/903236-02.gif) at £30 a time. I knew then I had been conned.  Later the plastic just started falling apart. Lovely fancy clear plastic but brittle.

All I can say is the advertising must be very good if people still like them.
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Broomies Mate on 08 October 2013, 17:10:58
Yes I forgot Miele they are meant to be very good, never had one myself but friends speak very highly of them, if you want to spend a lot on a cleaner spend it on a Miele not a Dyson.

My first and last Dyson was an early model I think the DC01.  I very soon discovered that although 'bagless' you do have to replace these
(http://www.appliance-extras.co.uk/shopimages/products/normal/903236-02.gif) at £30 a time. I knew then I had been conned.  Later the plastic just started falling apart. Lovely fancy clear plastic but brittle.

All I can say is the advertising must be very good if people still like them.

That's not a DC01 filter. No idea what filter for a Dyson costs £30! The only con was the person flogging you a £5 filter for £30. Anyway, all modern Dyson filters are washable!

The advertising is the same as any other appliance. People like them because they are fantastic at what they were designed to do.
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: tunnie on 08 October 2013, 17:18:45
Yes I forgot Miele they are meant to be very good, never had one myself but friends speak very highly of them, if you want to spend a lot on a cleaner spend it on a Miele not a Dyson.

My first and last Dyson was an early model I think the DC01.  I very soon discovered that although 'bagless' you do have to replace these
(http://www.appliance-extras.co.uk/shopimages/products/normal/903236-02.gif) at £30 a time. I knew then I had been conned.  Later the plastic just started falling apart. Lovely fancy clear plastic but brittle.

All I can say is the advertising must be very good if people still like them.

That's not a DC01 filter. No idea what filter for a Dyson costs £30! The only con was the person flogging you a £5 filter for £30. Anyway, all modern Dyson filters are washable!

The advertising is the same as any other appliance. People like them because they are fantastic at what they were designed to do.

Indeed, not much more than a fiver for a filter, also note they are life time  :)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Dyson%20Filter (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Dyson%20Filter)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: tunnie on 08 October 2013, 17:21:29
Little Googleing suggests dbdb's pictured filter is DC-03, not DC-01
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: dbdb on 08 October 2013, 17:32:10
Yes I forgot Miele they are meant to be very good, never had one myself but friends speak very highly of them, if you want to spend a lot on a cleaner spend it on a Miele not a Dyson.

My first and last Dyson was an early model I think the DC01.  I very soon discovered that although 'bagless' you do have to replace these
(http://www.appliance-extras.co.uk/shopimages/products/normal/903236-02.gif) at £30 a time. I knew then I had been conned.  Later the plastic just started falling apart. Lovely fancy clear plastic but brittle.

All I can say is the advertising must be very good if people still like them.
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: dbdb on 08 October 2013, 17:33:02
also note they are life time  :)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Dyson%20Filter (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Dyson%20Filter)
My a**e they are.
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 08 October 2013, 17:38:10
I was told when i first bought a dyson not to throw the box away as i would soon need it to send it back faulty...i have had a dyson for 7 years and still going strong which i now use for my car and garage and my other one which is only 18 months old i use in the house..i have always used a dyson... i found dyson is best especially for pet hair...would not use any other vacum cleaner...And i still have the two boxes in the loft taking up valuable space as never needed them....So i agree with Lizzie..... :y :y


.............and what you have found is exactly what all of us Dyson fans have experienced.  Great quality, wonderful performance, tremendous reliability (saying that after now owning 6 Dyson's), and long lasting. Any that do fail are down to a lack of simple maintenance- filter cleaning - or serious abuse.

I have also found some people who run down Dyson's due to "cost" or something else, but when questioned have never actually owned one!  They have just listened  to some biased anti-comment from some who have adopted a "snooty" attitude to Dyson machines! ::) ::) ::) :P :P

Why would you need six if there that good ???,we have had one Miele and have still got it after many years of good service,its the "cat and dog" version,very good it is too :y

(and at the time it wasn't cheaper,don't know about now though)

Because with a divorce, and moving a number of times, I gave away three for "latest" models, and my fourth, which I had for 12 years, I have, although still working, just dumped because again I have updated to the DC40 to ensure I have the latest model. :y :y
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: albitz on 08 October 2013, 17:40:40
Yes I forgot Miele they are meant to be very good, never had one myself but friends speak very highly of them, if you want to spend a lot on a cleaner spend it on a Miele not a Dyson.

My first and last Dyson was an early model I think the DC01.  I very soon discovered that although 'bagless' you do have to replace these
(http://www.appliance-extras.co.uk/shopimages/products/normal/903236-02.gif) at £30 a time. I knew then I had been conned.  Later the plastic just started falling apart. Lovely fancy clear plastic but brittle.

All I can say is the advertising must be very good if people still like them.

Agreed. Imo,this thread is a classic example of brand loyalty and blind faith. We had Dyson for several years,were underwhelmed by them and replaced with another brand which is infinitely superior.Its like an old fella I used to know who bought a brand new mid range Ford every three years. "Best cars on the market,far better than anything else. Never bought anything but Ford and never will".
If you've never bought anything else (at least in the last 10-15 years) how could you know how good or bad they are in comparison to what else is on the market ?  ::)
In comparison to other brands Dyson are average at best.
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 08 October 2013, 17:43:12
Yes I forgot Miele they are meant to be very good, never had one myself but friends speak very highly of them, if you want to spend a lot on a cleaner spend it on a Miele not a Dyson.

My first and last Dyson was an early model I think the DC01.  I very soon discovered that although 'bagless' you do have to replace these
(http://www.appliance-extras.co.uk/shopimages/products/normal/903236-02.gif) at £30 a time. I knew then I had been conned.  Later the plastic just started falling apart. Lovely fancy clear plastic but brittle.

All I can say is the advertising must be very good if people still like them.

That's not a DC01 filter. No idea what filter for a Dyson costs £30! The only con was the person flogging you a £5 filter for £30. Anyway, all modern Dyson filters are washable!

The advertising is the same as any other appliance. People like them because they are fantastic at what they were designed to do.


I agree, and in fact I have never replaced the filters, being able to always wash them!

This is the very mythology I was implying to earlier, with some very misinformed 'knowledge that tries to rubbish Dyson's'! ::) ::) ::) ::) 

Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 October 2013, 17:45:49
No filters in our DC01.......Not any more. :y
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 08 October 2013, 17:54:11
I was told when i first bought a dyson not to throw the box away as i would soon need it to send it back faulty...i have had a dyson for 7 years and still going strong which i now use for my car and garage and my other one which is only 18 months old i use in the house..i have always used a dyson... i found dyson is best especially for pet hair...would not use any other vacum cleaner...And i still have the two boxes in the loft taking up valuable space as never needed them....So i agree with Lizzie..... :y :y


.............and what you have found is exactly what all of us Dyson fans have experienced.  Great quality, wonderful performance, tremendous reliability (saying that after now owning 6 Dyson's), and long lasting. Any that do fail are down to a lack of simple maintenance- filter cleaning - or serious abuse.

I have also found some people who run down Dyson's due to "cost" or something else, but when questioned have never actually owned one!  They have just listened  to some biased anti-comment from some who have adopted a "snooty" attitude to Dyson machines! ::) ::) ::) :P :P

Did you read my post Lizzie? I think mine was the DC03, it caught FIRE! after light use for 18 months. Ive never had a vacuum do that! It was the motor at fault, I did price up another motor for it, but iirc it was over £50 for a replacent, so I decided to buy another brand  :)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 October 2013, 18:15:18
Our DC01 lasted from early '94 right up until mid '95 ;D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 08 October 2013, 18:18:11
also note they are life time  :)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Dyson%20Filter (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Dyson%20Filter)
My a**e they are.
My filters are at least 17yrs old.  To me, that counts as lifetime...
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 08 October 2013, 18:52:52
I was told when i first bought a dyson not to throw the box away as i would soon need it to send it back faulty...i have had a dyson for 7 years and still going strong which i now use for my car and garage and my other one which is only 18 months old i use in the house..i have always used a dyson... i found dyson is best especially for pet hair...would not use any other vacum cleaner...And i still have the two boxes in the loft taking up valuable space as never needed them....So i agree with Lizzie..... :y :y


.............and what you have found is exactly what all of us Dyson fans have experienced.  Great quality, wonderful performance, tremendous reliability (saying that after now owning 6 Dyson's), and long lasting. Any that do fail are down to a lack of simple maintenance- filter cleaning - or serious abuse.

I have also found some people who run down Dyson's due to "cost" or something else, but when questioned have never actually owned one!  They have just listened  to some biased anti-comment from some who have adopted a "snooty" attitude to Dyson machines! ::) ::) ::) :P :P

Did you read my post Lizzie? I think mine was the DC03, it caught FIRE! after light use for 18 months. Ive never had a vacuum do that! It was the motor at fault, I did price up another motor for it, but iirc it was over £50 for a replacent, so I decided to buy another brand  :)

I did TD and I am sorry you suffered such an incident.  However, that must be a very rare event indeed as there would have been a recall and much press exposure, but there was not. Every manufactured electrical item always carries a risk of malfunction, but as far as I am aware the Dyson's have a very good reputation indeed. :y :y
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Rods2 on 08 October 2013, 20:47:09
At the end of the day, it is what you are happy using and it does an effective job. I couldn't say if other brands are better or worse outside of the experience I've had. My Aquavac was a cheap as chips and is still going strong after 20 years. I've replaced the filter once, and bags as they get full and the lead has broken once at the mains plug, so it is about 2" shorter than the original, besides that no problems

On the carpet washing head, the water release handle snapped in half, but it is still useable. So perfectly happy with what I use and have no plans to replace it.
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: scimmy_man on 09 October 2013, 10:46:29
We have 4 Dyson Dc04,

one upstairs one in hall one in granny fllat, and one in garage,

all picked up on ebay cheap, garage one was free at tip, still working.
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 October 2013, 14:55:10
The Dysons have a very poor reliability reputation Lizzie and yes, I can well beleave that an early one could catch fire as they regularly burnt the motors out (I hope/think Dyson finaly fitted thermal fuses in them like every other manufacturer on the planet to stop/reduce this).

I have said many times, the best bit about them is the marketing and the best bit of marketing is the clear dust collection vessel.

They did do a lot of good in bringing innovation back to the market and were the first to use multi horse power motors which is the key thing that got them a market lead (this being the main reason why people noticed such a huge difference to thier old units) but, the market has moved on a lot and way overtaken them.
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: albitz on 09 October 2013, 14:59:58
At last, a voice of reason. ::) ;D
I actually had one of my occasional vacuuming episodes this morning (happens a couple of times a year) and I had forgotten just how good the Sebo airbelt K3 was. Its a superb little machine.

http://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/sebo-k3-premium-vacuum-cleaner?gclid=CKbSwvn0iboCFVMQtAodaE4A1g
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 October 2013, 16:18:33
I am not saying what manufacturer/model of vaccuming device we have.  :-X
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: albitz on 09 October 2013, 17:14:23
Shall we start a poll ?  ;D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 October 2013, 18:07:40
Someone said to me.

"What are you all chatting about on that Omega site of yours at the moment then?"   ::)  ;D

I couldn't tell a lie and replied "Vacuum cleaners...... "  :-[ :-[ :-[  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D

Are we really so sad?  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 October 2013, 18:13:38
Someone said to me.

"What are you all chatting about on that Omega site of yours at the moment then?"   ::)  ;D

I couldn't tell a lie and replied "Vacuum cleaners...... "  :-[ :-[ :-[  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D

Are we really so sad?  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D
Better than turnips, Worzel.  ;D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: MaxV6 on 09 October 2013, 18:18:42
big old orange vax combi vacuum and carpet shampoo thingy here,  in fact got 2 of them, one for work and one for home....   pretty much bullet proof operationally,  casing tends to crack around the wheel spigots on the base....   but still works fine....     


copes with anything and everything.....   
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: MaxV6 on 09 October 2013, 18:19:37
and when i say work, i mean the building site type bit of my acoustics work......   not the nice shiny studio bit
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: pscocoa on 09 October 2013, 18:21:59
My grandson is fascinated by hoovers - he has 6 or 7 at his house and 3 or 4 at ours. He watches Hoover/Dyson/Vax You Tube clips and clicks on the ipad himself - things like -"changing a clutch on a Dyson".

Effectively white goods shops are toy shops and he goes to check out all the pressable buttons on everything.

He will sometimes empty crumbs on the ground and then say he needs to hoover. It is quite strange. He will ask a stranger "do you have a Dyson?". If we go to someone elses house he is usually checking out the under stairs cupboard for equipment. He might have a field day under Guffer's stairs of course.

The daily bribe goes something like - "if you are a good boy you can use the big hoover".

Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 09 October 2013, 18:28:37
The Dysons have a very poor reliability reputation Lizzie and yes, I can well beleave that an early one could catch fire as they regularly burnt the motors out (I hope/think Dyson finaly fitted thermal fuses in them like every other manufacturer on the planet to stop/reduce this).

I have said many times, the best bit about them is the marketing and the best bit of marketing is the clear dust collection vessel.

They did do a lot of good in bringing innovation back to the market and were the first to use multi horse power motors which is the key thing that got them a market lead (this being the main reason why people noticed such a huge difference to thier old units) but, the market has moved on a lot and way overtaken them.
Being one of the early DC04s, I can confirm that mine has always have a thermal fuse in the motor - that was the first fault Dyson fixed under warranty ;D

I would assume they have used them ever since, esp as even the pikey chinese replacement motors for less than £20 have them fitted ;D


Anything with 240v with some current capability running through it has the potential to catch fire quite spectacularly. So the lovely girlie with the tight t-shirt and big hooba-loobas from the fire service was explaining, after the horse had bolted.  Though I wasn't paying too much attention on what she was saying, I needed all my skills to not dribble.


I think in the 90s, the reason everyone said Dysons were the mutts is because it was the first time in ages when people binned their old cylinder vacs and went back to uprights, with carpet beaters/brushbars, which are obviously more effective.

I think, as an upright, they are better than average performance wise (if "serviced" properly), but made from some bloody shoddy materials.

Would I buy another? Based on the experiences I've had with this one, yup, Dyson would most definately be on the shortlist.
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: albitz on 09 October 2013, 18:58:13
Modern cylinder vacs have powered brush heads/ carpet beaters. Cable runs down the tube part and plugs into the head. ;)
I was disappointed with the results of ours this morning until I realised I had forgot to plug the leccy connector into the head,so the brush wasn't spinning. ;D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 09 October 2013, 19:02:40
Modern cylinder vacs have powered brush heads/ carpet beaters. Cable runs down the tube part and plugs into the head. ;)
I was disappointed with the results of ours this morning until I realised I had forgot to plug the leccy connector into the head,so the brush wasn't spinning. ;D
Yeah, sorry I was talking about the 90s.

Not sure I could live with a cylinder any more. My last one lost a fight with a vegetable rack, bloody things ;D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 October 2013, 20:36:40
Someone said to me.

"What are you all chatting about on that Omega site of yours at the moment then?"   ::)  ;D

I couldn't tell a lie and replied "Vacuum cleaners...... "  :-[ :-[ :-[  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D

Are we really so sad?  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D
Better than turnips, Worzel.  ;D

Oi speck we cud ave a good ole natter aboit vegetables too me ole scouser.  ;)
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: MaxV6 on 09 October 2013, 20:38:10
Modern cylinder vacs have powered brush heads/ carpet beaters. Cable runs down the tube part and plugs into the head. ;)
I was disappointed with the results of ours this morning until I realised I had forgot to plug the leccy connector into the head,so the brush wasn't spinning. ;D
Yeah, sorry I was talking about the 90s.

Not sure I could live with a cylinder any more. My last one lost a fight with a vegetable rack, bloody things ;D


last time i saw your vegetable rack, it was in fact a fairly sizeable stack of baked bean tins.....    at which point, i'm not surprised the hoover lost.... 
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Vamps on 09 October 2013, 21:32:41
Someone said to me.

"What are you all chatting about on that Omega site of yours at the moment then?"   ::)  ;D

I couldn't tell a lie and replied "Vacuum cleaners...... "  :-[ :-[ :-[  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D

Are we really so sad?  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D
Better than turnips, Worzel.  ;D

And we have done Washing Powder, so what next Irons?............ ;) ;) :y
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 09 October 2013, 21:56:12
Someone said to me.

"What are you all chatting about on that Omega site of yours at the moment then?"   ::)  ;D

I couldn't tell a lie and replied "Vacuum cleaners...... "  :-[ :-[ :-[  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D

Are we really so sad?  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D
Better than turnips, Worzel.  ;D

And we have done Washing Powder, so what next Irons?............ ;) ;) :y
Was that when STEMO shat the bed?
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 October 2013, 22:06:25
I would have considered another dyson if they were not now crappy Malaysian built tack at top dollar prices.
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Vamps on 09 October 2013, 22:10:31
Someone said to me.

"What are you all chatting about on that Omega site of yours at the moment then?"   ::)  ;D

I couldn't tell a lie and replied "Vacuum cleaners...... "  :-[ :-[ :-[  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D

Are we really so sad?  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D
Better than turnips, Worzel.  ;D

And we have done Washing Powder, so what next Irons?............ ;) ;) :y
Was that when STEMO shat the bed?

 :D :D :y
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 October 2013, 22:29:18
Someone said to me.

"What are you all chatting about on that Omega site of yours at the moment then?"   ::)  ;D

I couldn't tell a lie and replied "Vacuum cleaners...... "  :-[ :-[ :-[  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D

Are we really so sad?  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D
Better than turnips, Worzel.  ;D

And we have done Washing Powder, so what next Irons?............ ;) ;) :y
Was that when STEMO shat the bed?

 :D :D :y

I wonder if STEMO has a shitty sheet sucker?  :D  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: Vamps on 09 October 2013, 22:35:05
Someone said to me.

"What are you all chatting about on that Omega site of yours at the moment then?"   ::)  ;D

I couldn't tell a lie and replied "Vacuum cleaners...... "  :-[ :-[ :-[  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D

Are we really so sad?  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D
Better than turnips, Worzel.  ;D

And we have done Washing Powder, so what next Irons?............ ;) ;) :y
Was that when STEMO shat the bed?

 :D :D :y

I wonder if STEMO has a shitty sheet sucker?  :D  ;D ;D ;D

Do you mean a Wet Vac?......... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Now the Dyson. Again.
Post by: TheBoy on 10 October 2013, 19:10:02
I would have considered another dyson if they were not now crappy Malaysian built tack at top dollar prices.
That was one of the reasons I decided, against Mrs TB's wishes, to repair the old old, rather than buy a new one.