Omega Owners Forum
Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Jim on 24 February 2014, 21:27:05
-
I have a full manual conversion kit to change my 2002 3.2 V6 Elite from Auto to Manual as I'm not a mechanic does anyone want to help me. I'm willing to travel or leave the car with someone for a few weeks etc if need be, & pay!!!!
-
You don't wanna do that ::) ::) ::) they do say that the manual gearboxes aren't that nice to use ...... the manual TD I had a short drive of wasn't. ;) ;) ;)
-
Nothing wrong with the manual boxes Andy, or the extra pedal lol. TBH I find the manual box nice to use, ok it`s got a longish throw but I like it, better than the Senator box and I much prefer it to any slushbox ;)
-
Fit a short shift lever, bend it slightly towards the drivers side, job done, a real pleasure to drive. :y
-
Happy to take it on, sent you some info
-
Nothing wrong with the manual boxes Andy, or the extra pedal lol. TBH I find the manual box nice to use, ok it`s got a longish throw but I like it, better than the Senator box and I much prefer it to any slushbox ;)
You'd have to say that even if it was the worst manual 'box in the world! ;D ;D ;D ;D
-
Given that Jim has already sourced all the parts, I would suggest that he has already decided to make his Elite a bit more involving to drive... ::)
Plod cars seem to have that effect on their owners :y
-
I would just ignore this post, Jim was clearly not in a good place at the moment and does not have the 'Capacity' to make such a decision (Mental Capacity Act 2005) a 'Best Interest Decision' on his behalf needs to be made; who in their right mind would choose Manual over Auto......... :y :y
-
..... to make his Elite a bit more involving to drive... ::) .....
Each to their own ...... but how involving can 1700kg of lard arsed suspensioned Elite be to drive ..... manual or not? It amuses me that people want a manual Omega so they can 'be in control' when the likes of Aston Martin, Mercedes etc build super cars with 2 & 3 times the power of even a 3.2 Omega but fit an autobox as standard.
-
Mercedes couldn't build a decent manual gearbox if they tried ;D
Besides, it's not called a slushbox for nothing ::)
-
....... and an established member of ABS once converted an auto Senator to manual ................. and then back to auto because he didn't like the manual ::)
-
....... and an indecisive member of ABS once converted an auto Senator to manual ................. and then back to auto because he didn't like the manual ::)
Corrected that for you.
-
....... and an indecisive member of ABS once converted an auto Senator to manual ................. and then back to auto because he didn't like the manual ::)
Corrected that for you.
That's definitely not a description of him ;) ;)
-
..... to make his Elite a bit more involving to drive... ::) .....
Each to their own ...... but how involving can 1700kg of lard arsed suspensioned Elite be to drive ..... manual or not? It amuses me that people want a manual Omega so they can 'be in control' when the likes of Aston Martin, Mercedes etc build super cars with 2 & 3 times the power of even a 3.2 Omega but fit an autobox as standard.
Probably because all their drivers want to do is waft along going "Look at how rich I am!", not drive.. :P
-
..... not drive.. :P
Drive? In a softly sprung Elite Omega? ::) ::) ::)
-
I would just ignore this post, Jim was clearly not in a good place at the moment and does not have the 'Capacity' to make such a decision (Mental Capacity Act 2005) a 'Best Interest Decision' on his behalf needs to be made; who in their right mind would choose Manual over Auto......... :y :y
.. and I guess it follows that his gearbox needs to make decisions on his behalf too? ::)
..... not drive.. :P
Drive? In a softly sprung Elite Omega? ::) ::) ::)
Yeah, good point. He needs to sort out the suspension while he's at it. :y
-
I would just ignore this post, Jim was clearly not in a good place at the moment and does not have the 'Capacity' to make such a decision (Mental Capacity Act 2005) a 'Best Interest Decision' on his behalf needs to be made; who in their right mind would choose Manual over Auto......... :y :y
.. and I guess it follows that his gearbox needs to make decisions on his behalf too? ::)
..... not drive.. :P
Drive? In a softly sprung Elite Omega? ::) ::) ::)
Yeah, good point. He needs to sort out the suspension while he's at it. :y
It seems that a manual gearbox is a must for all those here that 'want to be in control' however we're talking lard arsed 1700kg exec barges, cars that by their very nature were built to sit all day on the motorway - a job they do very well. I'm not against a manual gearbox in the right car, but IMHO an Omega just isn't the right car.
-
Believe that car is already Irmscher sprung, so that's the suspension sorted :y
Funny how all the manual bashers have only driven a manual Omega on short and temporary occasions :-X
-
Yes, having owned both types I know which I prefer......and its not the slush pump.
-
......
Funny how all the manual bashers have only driven a manual Omega on short and temporary occasions :-X
That's me! Hand up! :y I can't think of a reason why I'd want to drive one further though ::) ::) ::)
We now only have my daughter's Fiat that has the extra pedal & I rarely have the need or inclination to drive it, but up until a couple of years ago drove a manual Astra everyday, it's not that I can't .... just have no desire to when there are auto cars that will do it for me.
-
It an age thing Andy, next you will be buying a retirement Merc with a hearing aid beige interior like Opti. ;D ;D :y
-
It an age thing Andy, next you will be buying a retirement Merc with a hearing aid beige interior like Opti. ;D ;D :y
Might be .... but also a type of car thing :y :y :y. I've had auto's now for getting on for 25 yrs, when I bought a car with 4 doors instead of trying to get two babies into seats at the back of my Manta.
The hearing aid beige interior is almost preferable to the red/tan 'leather' interiors of some
(like this ..... ??? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2010-MERCEDES-E-CLASS-E350-CDI-BLUEEFFICIENCY-SPORT-CONVERTIBLE-CONVERTIBLE-DIES-/181282787396?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a354bd044 )
-
Good god, do people actualy buy seats in baby sick tan colour, :o
-
Ooh, baby sick tan.. classy! ;D
-
Good god, do people actualy buy seats in baby sick tan colour, :o
It seems so ??? ???
-
So Any Volunteers??
My 3.2 Irmscher Omega Elite is fitted with irmscher suspension
-
So Any Volunteers??
My 3.2 Irmscher Omega Elite is fitted with irmscher suspension
me :y
-
So Any Volunteers??
My 3.2 Irmscher Omega Elite is fitted with irmscher suspension
Given the geography, 2woody would be worth a shout also :y
-
So Any Volunteers??
My 3.2 Irmscher Omega Elite is fitted with irmscher suspension
Given the geography, 2woody would be worth a shout also :y
...but he ain't volunteering....... ;) ;D
-
..........and, given the geography, Serek'll be doing mine...............
-
The slush box in my Senator as absolute shite adds was gone within a month ;) if a slush box works well then fine if you're lazy and you want it but my experience of the AR35 wasn't a pleasant one when it chooses first instead off second, resulting in head butting the steering wheel and then suffering whiplash from the lunge forward. Anyway you're just old and lazy Andy ;D
-
I never had any problems with either of my auto boxes on both my senators,and they did get some abuse ;D
-
I never had any problems with either of my auto boxes on both my senators,and they did get some abuse ;D
Likewise :y
It's just that some can't drive an auto and then sing praise to the hallowed manual ::) ::) ::)
-
Rally car/drift car/racing car = manual
"Fun" car when you know the roads are empty and the twisty bits are not slippery = manual or auto [AR35 in sports mode with 2nd selected (if you hit the rev limiter then the roads aren't twisty enough)]
Family car sat in town/traffic jams/cruising motorways/towing 1600kgs caravan = auto
horses for courses as they say ... each to their own :)
-
Out of 23 cars that I have owned, 5 were autos, every single one of them has been used for everything from popping to the shops through to 500 mile trips. Autos are great for getting from A to B with minimal fuss, manuals are better for hooning around :y
-
....... and an indecisive member of ABS once converted an auto Senator to manual ................. and then back to auto because he didn't like the manual ::)
Corrected that for you.
That's definitely not a description of him ;) ;)
His actions clearly suggest otherwise ;D ;D ;D
-
for your information , a 97 2.5 v6 manual (only head gasket change) with port polish, 3.0 cams consume 38 mpg on a long run with slight attention..
also same car from cold engine short distance rush hour driving in a cold weather consumes 28 mpg..
an auto has no way of making those figures..
and I'm too sorry for those years I used mine with autobox.. long pedal travel can be arranged ..
I now also have an auto omega from a friend to sell which I drive from time to time, 2 very different cars!! to say the least..
worth every penny spent on conversion..
-
With Andy on this... if you've got a race car then you want manual. For a luxury exec barge you want auto.
-
All these manual Luddites should try driving around London in a 44ton artic with a 16sped manual,then do it in a 44 ton artic with I-shift or astronic. They would soon be auto lovers :y
-
All these manual Luddites should try driving around London in a 44ton artic with a 16sped manual,then do it in a 44 ton artic with I-shift or astronic. They would soon be auto lovers :y
Yes but if you're going to compare like for like, i-shift has more in common with a manual box than an AR25/35 ;D
I-shift is without doubt the best autobox ever invented... instantaneous manual shifts, intelligent down and upshifts. Neither rush hour traffic nor winding country lanes ever see it in the wrong gear, especially in P mode :y If the Omega were fitted with a slush box of that caliber it would too close to call :-\
But it's not ;D so manual all the way...
-
The I-shift isn't brilliant, does throw a wrong gear to early going up hills fully up,and worst place is going up jubilee way just before 1st roundabout :(
-
for your information , a 97 2.5 v6 manual (only head gasket change) with port polish, 3.0 cams consume 38 mpg on a long run with slight attention..
also same car from cold engine short distance rush hour driving in a cold weather consumes 28 mpg..
an auto has no way of making those figures..
and I'm too sorry for those years I used mine with autobox.. long pedal travel can be arranged ..
I now also have an auto omega from a friend to sell which I drive from time to time, 2 very different cars!! to say the least..
worth every penny spent on conversion..
If I wanted mpg / km per litre I would buy a small city car ;) ;)
-
The I-shift isn't brilliant, does throw a wrong gear to early going up hills fully up,and worst place is going up jubilee way just before 1st roundabout :(
Found it much better than either the Merc autos or that shitty Renault box fitted to the FL/Daf which you have to put into drive before moving a second switch to reverse ;D
But then have mostly only been running around the south coast in the Volvos :-\
-
I liked the manual box in the first omega but prefer the auto especially when stop starting town work . One foot 2 pedals is best ...
-
I liked the manual box in the first omega but prefer the auto especially when stop starting town work . One foot 2 pedals is best ...
Someone (fairly sure he's not far away in this thread... ;)) will be along in a moment to tell you that you're doing it wrong and an auto requires two feet ;)
-
I liked the manual box in the first omega but prefer the auto especially when stop starting town work . One foot 2 pedals is best ...
Someone (fairly sure he's not far away in this thread... ;)) will be along in a moment to tell you that you're doing it wrong and an auto requires two feet ;)
I know he uses 2 feet ;D Mr B but thats wrong :P
-
I liked the manual box in the first omega but prefer the auto especially when stop starting town work . One foot 2 pedals is best ...
Someone (fairly sure he's not far away in this thread... ;)) will be along in a moment to tell you that you're doing it wrong and an auto requires two feet ;)
I've been busy! ::) ::) ::) ::)
-
....
I know he uses 2 feet ;D Mr B but thats wrong :P
I now find that I've to really think about it when using just one foot! ??? ;D ;D ;D
-
I liked the manual box in the first omega but prefer the auto especially when stop starting town work . One foot 2 pedals is best ...
Someone (fairly sure he's not far away in this thread... ;)) will be along in a moment to tell you that you're doing it wrong and an auto requires two feet ;)
I've been busy! ::) ::) ::) ::)
Keep up Andy .. an hour and a half it took you to reply to that! ;D
-
I liked the manual box in the first omega but prefer the auto especially when stop starting town work . One foot 2 pedals is best ...
Someone (fairly sure he's not far away in this thread... ;)) will be along in a moment to tell you that you're doing it wrong and an auto requires two feet ;)
I've been busy! ::) ::) ::) ::)
Keep up Andy .. an hour and a half it took you to reply to that! ;D
I'm at work ....... I was busy with a transfer valve :y :y
-
All these manual Luddites should try driving around London in a 44ton artic with a 16sped manual,then do it in a 44 ton artic with I-shift or astronic. They would soon be auto lovers :y
I drive buses, I'd kill for a manual box, just for the extra element of control. Must admit our autos aren't anywhere near as advanced or controllable as an I-shift though. :y
-
for your information , a 97 2.5 v6 manual (only head gasket change) with port polish, 3.0 cams consume 38 mpg on a long run with slight attention..
also same car from cold engine short distance rush hour driving in a cold weather consumes 28 mpg..
an auto has no way of making those figures..
and I'm too sorry for those years I used mine with autobox.. long pedal travel can be arranged ..
I now also have an auto omega from a friend to sell which I drive from time to time, 2 very different cars!! to say the least..
worth every penny spent on conversion..
If I wanted mpg / km per litre I would buy a small city car ;) ;)
I already have one.. ;D
and please note the time I bought omega.. it was 9 years ago when fuel prices were considered to be expensive ;D but less than half of now >:(
-
... it was 9 years ago when fuel prices were considered to be expensive ;D but less than half of now >:(
Similar to the UK then :(
-
what have I missed ?
of course I'm volunteering !