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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Varche on 24 September 2014, 22:10:58
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Anyone else wondering just how this will play out?
My own view is the problem is here for a long time because it has funding.
On a side note how does a country deal with its own nationals who go off to fight for the cause (one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist) and then comes back home? Big problem in countries like France.
The irony of Putin saying we mustn't fight Assad and then now he turns out to have been right isn't lost on me.
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Putin funding IS. ...and other similar factions, directly or indirectly, through/via Syria.
Just me?
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Putin funding IS. ...and other similar factions, directly or indirectly, through/via Syria.
Just me?
Nothing if not cyniacal ;D
I am in favour of another Crusade to put an end to this disease, but only if the UN sacnctions it. Syria not complaining about US led military strikes on Syrian soil is not the same as UN endorsement. If they have learnt anything from GeoffW and Smarmy Arseface, then surely it is that UN endorsement must be unequivocal :-\
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Anyone else wondering just how this will play out?
My own view is the problem is here for a long time because it has funding.
On a side note how does a country deal with its own nationals who go off to fight for the cause (one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist) and then comes back home? Big problem in countries like France.
The irony of Putin saying we mustn't fight Assad and then now he turns out to have been right isn't lost on me.
Putin knows what swamp is middle east.. saddam gone and what happened ?
but I'll say 2 countries directly guilty.. and everybody knows who they are >:( >:(
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just have a look at this.. there are lots >:(
http://rt.com/op-edge/168064-isis-terrorism-usa-cia-war/ (http://rt.com/op-edge/168064-isis-terrorism-usa-cia-war/)
this the big one..
guess who is the small :(
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"countries" is, I presume, a euphemism... for Tony B Liar and Geoff Bush the Second ::)
Don't tar us with the same brush as our meglomaniacical self serving onanist leaders, er, representatives.
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"countries" is, I presume, a euphemism... for Tony B Liar and Geoff Bush the Second ::)
Don't tar us with the same brush as our meglomaniacical self serving onanist leaders, er, representatives.
erm in that case in order of responsibility UK is a bit low on the list :-X in ISIS case I mean
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America is slightly annoyed at the non full commitment of other countries to tackle the threat ... where is Germany's contribution >:( >:(
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Nuke em :y :y :y OH! forgot the Oil :(
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Nuke em :y :y :y OH! forgot the Oil :(
Radioactive oil might be have a higher calorific value... Which could be useful :-\
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My own view is the problem is here for a long time because it has funding.
Initially funded by many sources (including Zestern powers) it is now self-sufficient through the sale of oil from captured oil fields. Hence the targetting of the refineries to reduce their income. No $ = no bullets, propoganda, food, etc, etc....
Militarily they are very vulnerable. Just one night of bombing raids from a small handul of aircraft has caused serious distruption to IS. Imagine a bombing campagne on the scale of Gulf War 1 or 2 followed up by soldiers to mop up the rest! The added bonus is that there is less grey with IS and less civilian population to hide amoungst so reduced collateral damage and greater tactical freedom.
So will they be around for long? I think not. Once the decision is made to properly intervene it will be very short-lived. The problem is that there are a number of elections due soon so expect intervention to be more forthcoming once they are done with (note: ours is next year!)
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I think still we are missing one point..
ISIS is a pion used for one or more reasons.. what will some powers achieve is the question..
will they re-draw the borders in middle east ? thats what I'm curious for..
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The only border you need worry about is the one with Syria ::)
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The only border you need worry about is the one with Syria ::)
is there any border still ? ;D
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The only border you need worry about is the one with Syria ::)
is there any border still ? ;D
I dont know, but my client's cement plant, which sits next to that border, is in the process of being destroyed by IS.
Thankfully it was evacuated last week so no lives at risk :y
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There are no borders when it comes to Muslims, the term British Muslim is totally nonsensical, their first priority is to Islam and not country, that is why so many go to fight and the rest sympathize with them, why we let them back freakk knows. Shia fights Sunni it's muslim v muslim still living in the middle ages.
B52's and carpet bomb the total area these muppets are in, as said few civilians, then concentrate on the enemy within our own borders. >:(
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There are no borders when it comes to Muslims, the term British Muslim is totally nonsensical, their first priority is to Islam and not country, that is why so many go to fight and the rest sympathize with them, why we let them back freakk knows. Shia fights Sunni it's muslim v muslim still living in the middle ages.
B52's and carpet bomb the total area these muppets are in, as said few civilians, then concentrate on the enemy within our own borders. >:(
One of the features of my browser is a double tap to zoom, and it will fill the screen with the biggest block of text. It also blocks out everything else so profiles and on line names are off screen.
This allows me to play a game of guess the poster. I'm getting prety good now Cleggy. ;)
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There are no borders when it comes to Muslims, the term British Muslim is totally nonsensical, their first priority is to Islam and not country, that is why so many go to fight and the rest sympathize with them, why we let them back freakk knows. Shia fights Sunni it's muslim v muslim still living in the middle ages.
B52's and carpet bomb the total area these muppets are in, as said few civilians, then concentrate on the enemy within our own borders. >:(
One of the features of my browser is a double tap to zoom, and it will fill the screen with the biggest block of text. It also blocks out everything else so profiles and on line names are off screen.
This allows me to play a game of guess the poster. I'm getting prety good now Cleggy. ;)
It must be my Political Correctness and total commitment to out wonderful multi cultural society. ;) ;D ;D ;D
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There are no borders when it comes to Muslims, the term British Muslim is totally nonsensical, their first priority is to Islam and not country, that is why so many go to fight and the rest sympathize with them, why we let them back freakk knows. Shia fights Sunni it's muslim v muslim still living in the middle ages.
B52's and carpet bomb the total area these muppets are in, as said few civilians, then concentrate on the enemy within our own borders. >:(
One of the features of my browser is a double tap to zoom, and it will fill the screen with the biggest block of text. It also blocks out everything else so profiles and on line names are off screen.
This allows me to play a game of guess the poster. I'm getting prety good now Cleggy. ;)
It must be my Political Correctness and total commitment to out wonderful multi cultural society. ;) ;D ;D ;D
Nope, it's not that.
[admin off]
It's exactly why I made reference to 'bigots' and similar in another recent thread that frustrated me.
[\admin mode back on]
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There are no borders when it comes to Muslims, the term British Muslim is totally nonsensical, their first priority is to Islam and not country, that is why so many go to fight and the rest sympathize with them, why we let them back freakk knows. Shia fights Sunni it's muslim v muslim still living in the middle ages.
B52's and carpet bomb the total area these muppets are in, as said few civilians, then concentrate on the enemy within our own borders. >:(
One of the features of my browser is a double tap to zoom, and it will fill the screen with the biggest block of text. It also blocks out everything else so profiles and on line names are off screen.
This allows me to play a game of guess the poster. I'm getting prety good now Cleggy. ;)
It must be my Political Correctness and total commitment to out wonderful multi cultural society. ;) ;D ;D ;D
Nope, it's not that.
[admin off]
It's exactly why I made reference to 'bigots' and similar in another recent thread that frustrated me.
[\admin mode back on]
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Please define your option of bigotted
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Dictionary.com
noun
1.
a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Wikipedia :-
Bigotry is a state of mind where a person strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc.[1] Some examples include personal beliefs, race, religion, national origin, gender, disability, sexual orientation, socioeconomic status, or other group characteristics.
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a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Quite a few indigenous to the Middle East then
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a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Quite a few indigenous to the Middle East then
Yup..
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a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Quite a few indigenous to the Middle East then
Yup..
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But doesn't mean we have to join them either.....
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Great, I am in your opinion a bigot, I prefer TRUTHFUL, I say it like I see it not constricted by labels that are meant to cause an inferior opinion. I judge people as I find them regardless of creed, colour or religion, however the PC brigade seem to overlook the following, Muslims are responsible for the grooming and rape of children, beheading a soldier in London, 7/11, inciting murder of any non believers ETC ETC ETC.
Wake up and smell the coffee, the enemy is here trying to destroy our society not just in the Middle East. I don't hear the Muslim community objecting too loudly.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion I make mine clear and before you call me names intended to belittle that, let me make something very clear:- Who's shoulder was there when a close friends son was sentenced to 13 years for incitement to murder, and who dealt with the Anti Terrorist Squad and MI5 when they were crawling all over his house and our close?
By the way he is a Muslim who integrates and believes in our way of life, a FRIEND
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I'm glad for that response. Well done.
The whinging, skirt wearing, shit nuts are staying, collecting the £1600 per person bonus from English tax payers ::) ;) ;D ;D ;D :y
Better together means no import duty on Scotch and no need to put a wall around Corby ::) ;D ;D ;D
Now for the bull poo from Westminster, Camoron has already said " We get it" ( now where have I heard that before?) devolved powers for Scotland, Wales, NI and England little Willy Hague is looking into to it. Aye and we'll do FA about it :(
Most of us 'skirt wearing shit nuts' are not Muslim. Where does that equate then?
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I'm glad for that response. Well done.
The whinging, skirt wearing, shit nuts are staying, collecting the £1600 per person bonus from English tax payers ::) ;) ;D ;D ;D :y
Better together means no import duty on Scotch and no need to put a wall around Corby ::) ;D ;D ;D
Now for the bull poo from Westminster, Camoron has already said " We get it" ( now where have I heard that before?) devolved powers for Scotland, Wales, NI and England little Willy Hague is looking into to it. Aye and we'll do FA about it :(
Most of us 'skirt wearing shit nuts' are not Muslim. Where does that equate then?
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AH, sense of humour breakdown. ;D ;D ;D
You failed to notice the smilies after my tongue in cheek comments. :y
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Yup. Call it a sense of humour breakdown if you wish.
I prefer to call it the identification of a small minded bigot.
And I don't vote UKIP either.
;D
I can do smileys as well, just to show I have a sense of humour. :y
Admin mode on - just asking that you at least try to be inofensive in your posting. I don't give a fuppeny tuck as to your views but, please, think before you post. You come a cross as a bigot in your views, irrespective of your use of smileys and I, in all honesty, find it difficult to bite my tongue/keyboard most of the time.
Ta.... :y
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Yup. Call it a sense of humour breakdown if you wish.
I prefer to call it the identification of a small minded bigot.
And I don't vote UKIP either.
;D
I can do smileys as well, just to show I have a sense of humour. :y
Admin mode on - just asking that you at least try to be inofensive in your posting. I don't give a fuppeny tuck as to your views but, please, think before you post. You come a cross as a bigot in your views, irrespective of your use of smileys and I, in all honesty, find it difficult to bite my tongue/keyboard most of the time.
Ta.... :y
Now surely if that's not offensive.... :o
Can you not simply accept others will/can have a different view point...?
Got to say that seems like Cleggy has made a good point/post...
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Yup. Call it a sense of humour breakdown if you wish.
I prefer to call it the identification of a small minded bigot.
And I don't vote UKIP either.
;D
I can do smileys as well, just to show I have a sense of humour. :y
Admin mode on - just asking that you at least try to be inofensive in your posting. I don't give a fuppeny tuck as to your views but, please, think before you post. You come a cross as a bigot in your views, irrespective of your use of smileys and I, in all honesty, find it difficult to bite my tongue/keyboard most of the time.
Ta.... :y
PUT your handbag away little admin BAN ME, for not liking my options, but never insult me.
NO SMILIES
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Yup. Call it a sense of humour breakdown if you wish.
I prefer to call it the identification of a small minded bigot.
And I don't vote UKIP either.
;D
I can do smileys as well, just to show I have a sense of humour. :y
Admin mode on - just asking that you at least try to be inofensive in your posting. I don't give a fuppeny tuck as to your views but, please, think before you post. You come a cross as a bigot in your views, irrespective of your use of smileys and I, in all honesty, find it difficult to bite my tongue/keyboard most of the time.
Ta.... :y
Now surely if that's not offensive.... :o
Can you not simply accept others will/can have a different view point...?
Got to say that seems like Cleggy has made a good point/post...
THANK YOU :y
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No handbag from me. Just saying it as I see it, not as an admin. As a member, have sat on it for too long as I didn't want to be seen to be being a heavy handed admin. Just reached my personal limit recently.
Why can't a member of the admin team have an opinion? :-\
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You can, :y as we all can, just stop the personal insults hiding under the admin badge. :y
I don't expect anyone to agree with my opinions they are just that, mine. :y
I have never insulted or been disrespectful to anyone, if you take it that way it is your problem, ;)
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No admin badge.
'The whinging, skirt wearing, shit nuts are staying, collecting the £1600 per person bonus from English tax payers ::) ;) ;D ;D ;D :y
Better together means no import duty on Scotch and no need to put a wall around Corby ::) ;D ;D ;D
Now for the bull poo from Westminster, Camoron has already said " We get it" ( now where have I heard that before?) devolved powers for Scotland, Wales, NI and England little Willy Hague is looking into to it. Aye and we'll do FA about it :('
So how does the above comment square then?
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As I previously stated it was tongue in cheek, obvious to all from the smilies, except youself. If you were offended by this off the cuff remark then I apologise, my main criticism was with the powers that be in Westminster.
On a more serious note if you can't indulge in adult conversation over opinions without dropping the admin hat off/on or insults then I respectfully suggest you consider you position of administartor, or apologise for you comments.
I sent you a PM stating that we should agree to differ, it would appear you wish to keep it public.
You have called me a small minded bigot, and then mentioned UKIP, WTF.
You don't like what I say ............ fine, some do.
Do the right thing. Think of how many members are reading this and having a good laugh. :y
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Just to ensure this is kept reasonably on topic, I have absolutely no time for the militant factions of IS or similar. Or the allied military for that matter. The sooner we are rid of such universal hate for each other the better.
Talking is better than blasting the shit out of each other but the knowledge that a military option is viable alternative is best kept as a reserve rather than a first line option.
That does not mean we are pressganged into such a stereotyped viewpoint as opined by some such that we cannot reach a solution other than simply bombing the fek out of those who disagree with a point of view.
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As I previously stated it was tongue in cheek, obvious to all from the smilies, except youself. If you were offended by this off the cuff remark then I apologise, my main criticism was with the powers that be in Westminster.
On a more serious note if you can't indulge in adult conversation over opinions without dropping the admin hat off/on or insults then I respectfully suggest you consider you position of administartor, or apologise for you comments.
I sent you a PM stating that we should agree to differ, it would appear you wish to keep it public.
You have called me a small minded bigot, and then mentioned UKIP, WTF.
You don't like what I say ............ fine, some do.
Do the right thing. Think of how many members are reading this and having a good laugh. :y
So. Because I disagree with you then I am less than you then I must remove myself from your view?
Nawwww... Don't think so..... ;D
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As I previously stated it was tongue in cheek, obvious to all from the smilies, except youself. If you were offended by this off the cuff remark then I apologise, my main criticism was with the powers that be in Westminster.
On a more serious note if you can't indulge in adult conversation over opinions without dropping the admin hat off/on or insults then I respectfully suggest you consider you position of administartor, or apologise for you comments.
I sent you a PM stating that we should agree to differ, it would appear you wish to keep it public.
You have called me a small minded bigot, and then mentioned UKIP, WTF.
You don't like what I say ............ fine, some do.
Do the right thing. Think of how many members are reading this and having a good laugh. :y
So. Because I disagree with you then I am less than you then I must remove myself from your view?
Nawwww... Don't think so..... ;D
So in your opinion you can be offensive and insulting to others because of you position.
"Less than you " What planet do you live on?
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may be its not a good time to enter such a serious discussion but may I take your attention for a moment
ask yourself a question :
a primat cuts the throat of a British or American in front of a video recorder and later make it public
and this event repeats itself several times..
if you are the head of that primat team and knowing the history : you will at least expect an operation
and finally find your dead body in deep ocean..
will you do that ?
without any doubt , I can say its a tragic show just to influence western community to PROVOKE!
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As I previously stated it was tongue in cheek, obvious to all from the smilies, except youself. If you were offended by this off the cuff remark then I apologise, my main criticism was with the powers that be in Westminster.
On a more serious note if you can't indulge in adult conversation over opinions without dropping the admin hat off/on or insults then I respectfully suggest you consider you position of administartor, or apologise for you comments.
I sent you a PM stating that we should agree to differ, it would appear you wish to keep it public.
You have called me a small minded bigot, and then mentioned UKIP, WTF.
You don't like what I say ............ fine, some do.
Do the right thing. Think of how many members are reading this and having a good laugh. :y
So. Because I disagree with you then I am less than you then I must remove myself from your view?
Nawwww... Don't think so..... ;D
So in your opinion you can be offensive and insulting to others because of you position.
"Less than you " What planet do you live on?
But it's ok for you to be offensive?
Ps - same planet as you.
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may be its not a good time to enter such a serious discussion but may I take your attention for a moment
ask yourself a question :
a primat cuts the throat of a British or American in front of a video recorder and later make it public
and this event repeats itself several times..
if you are the head of that primat team and knowing the history : you will at least expect an operation
and finally find your dead body in deep ocean..
will you do that ?
without any doubt , I can say its a tragic show just to influence western community to PROVOKE!
They certainly know what they are doing and agree its to Prevoke...seems they are poking the Dog and once bitten they will show there hand.
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When have I personally insulted anyone ???
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Woo. Broocies out to play ;D :y
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When have I personally insulted anyone ???
I called my mate at work a welsh man...blimey he got his kilt in a twist,big jessy. ;D
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When have I personally insulted anyone ???
With almost every post I gen dis. ;D
On my little browser game, yours are the easiest posts to guess the poster. Stands out a MILE. ;)
.....I wonder where my posts fit in that game....? Go on, i'll'leave the "door" open.
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When have I personally insulted anyone ???
Some of your historic comments are such that they insult whole countries/races/and, sometimes, individuals by inference. Whether you mean that to happen or are oblivious to their impact without thinking,well, it cannot be read by anyone other than yourself.
I would dearly love to reaserch your posts and quote but Im on the mobile out in the country on a not good webby connection so that's just not viable. :)
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When have I personally insulted anyone ???
With almost every post I gen dis. ;D
On my little browser game, yours are the easiest posts to guess the poster. Stands out a MILE. ;)
.....I wonder where my posts fit in that game....? Go on, i'll'leave the "door" open.
That's the idea and so are yours :y I play the double tap game too ;D
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When have I personally insulted anyone ???
With almost every post I gen dis. ;D
On my little browser game, yours are the easiest posts to guess the poster. Stands out a MILE. ;)
.....I wonder where my posts fit in that game....? Go on, i'll'leave the "door" open.
''Got beat up again by a pikey who crashed in to me'' ::) ;D
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When have I personally insulted anyone ???
With almost every post I gen dis. ;D
On my little browser game, yours are the easiest posts to guess the poster. Stands out a MILE. ;)
.....I wonder where my posts fit in that game....? Go on, i'll'leave the "door" open.
That's the idea and so are yours :y I play the double tap game too ;D
A pair of extremists then...? Well, one of us certainly. :P
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When have I personally insulted anyone ???
With almost every post I gen dis. ;D
On my little browser game, yours are the easiest posts to guess the poster. Stands out a MILE. ;)
.....I wonder where my posts fit in that game....? Go on, i'll'leave the "door" open.
''Got beat up again by a pikey who crashed in to me'' ::) ;D
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When have I personally insulted anyone ???
With almost every post I gen dis. ;D
On my little browser game, yours are the easiest posts to guess the poster. Stands out a MILE. ;)
.....I wonder where my posts fit in that game....? Go on, i'll'leave the "door" open.
''Got beat up again by a pikey who crashed in to me'' ::) ;D
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Only kiddin' mate :)
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When have I personally insulted anyone ???
With almost every post I gen dis. ;D
On my little browser game, yours are the easiest posts to guess the poster. Stands out a MILE. ;)
.....I wonder where my posts fit in that game....? Go on, i'll'leave the "door" open.
''Got beat up again by a pikey who crashed in to me'' ::) ;D
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Only kiddin' mate :)
Psych ;D ;)
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When have I personally insulted anyone ???
With almost every post I gen dis. ;D
On my little browser game, yours are the easiest posts to guess the poster. Stands out a MILE. ;)
.....I wonder where my posts fit in that game....? Go on, i'll'leave the "door" open.
''Got beat up again by a pikey who crashed in to me'' ::) ;D
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Only kiddin' mate :)
Psych ;D ;)
Ooooh you bitch ;D
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The world would be a very dull (yet peaceful) place if everyone agreed with everyone else.
The whole point of a progressive messaging forum is to discuss and debate.
I am extremely broad minded and as such, haven't seen anything which I would term as offensive.
Others who are maybe more sensitive in their opinion of 'free speech' may deem certain posts to have crossed the line. Who is right and who is wrong? Doesn't really matter (to a degree*) as that is part of being Human.
* We all know what is offensive and shouldn't be posted on a public forum (I hope).
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When have I personally insulted anyone ???
Some of your historic comments are such that they insult whole countries/races/and, sometimes, individuals by inference. Whether you mean that to happen or are oblivious to their impact without thinking,well, it cannot be read by anyone other than yourself.
I would dearly love to reaserch your posts and quote but Im on the mobile out in the country on a not good webby connection so that's just not viable. :)
Opinions are simply that opinions some of mine are for reaction. I have never personally insulted a fellow member unlike your comments tonight. Now man up and simply apologise for your offensive comments directed at myself, as I did earlier and PLAY NICELY :y
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In general terms, I am not offended by 99.9% of posts on here but sometimes, just sometimes, there's a post or three that are in my personal,non admin, position as a forum member beyond the pale or across the line as regards common decency or those generally accepted norms within which we function.
Some times the line is crossed and most times I refrain but this time, I bit. Hey ho....
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When have I personally insulted anyone ???
Some of your historic comments are such that they insult whole countries/races/and, sometimes, individuals by inference. Whether you mean that to happen or are oblivious to their impact without thinking,well, it cannot be read by anyone other than yourself.
I would dearly love to reaserch your posts and quote but Im on the mobile out in the country on a not good webby connection so that's just not viable. :)
Opinions are simply that opinions some of mine are for reaction. I have never personally insulted a fellow member unlike your comments tonight. Now man up and simply apologise for your offensive comments directed at myself, as I did earlier and PLAY NICELY :y
No. Disagree.
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So you didn't call me a " small minded bigot" ???
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So you didn't call me a " small minded bigot" ???
No, I did. And I still think that.
And that's as an individual. Not an admin.
You have historically repeatedly commented upon numerous posts which have identified you as a bigot and by repeatedly commenting on same have confirmed you as restricted in your viewpoint I.e. Small minded and thus I see my comment proved by your own actions and comments, thus small minded bigot.
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We havn't had any decent handbags for ages! :-\ Keep it up lads!! :y ;D
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There are no borders when it comes to Muslims, the term British Muslim is totally nonsensical, their first priority is to Islam and not country, - correct
that is why so many go to fight and the rest sympathize with them,
thats not correct
why we let them back freakk knows.
Shia fights Sunni it's muslim v muslim still living in the middle ages.
B52's and carpet bomb the total area these muppets are in, as said few civilians
completely wrong.. those muppets are spread in to a very large area.. there are Turkish, Kurdish, arabic, syrian , millions of civilians how can you make carpet bombing :o
, then concentrate on the enemy within our own borders. >:(
ok.. some rights and wrongs.. as said dont tar with the same brush.. you may well know that I'm against religion.. but must correct this subject..
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So you didn't call me a " small minded bigot" ???
No, I did. And I still think that.
And that's as an individual. Not an admin.
You have historically repeatedly commented upon numerous posts which have identified you as a bigot and by repeatedly commenting on same have confirmed you as restricted in your viewpoint I.e. Small minded and thus I see my comment proved by your own actions and comments, thus small minded bigot.
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Is that an opinion, or a personal insult. ???
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So you didn't call me a " small minded bigot" ???
No, I did. And I still think that.
And that's as an individual. Not an admin.
You have historically repeatedly commented upon numerous posts which have identified you as a bigot and by repeatedly commenting on same have confirmed you as restricted in your viewpoint I.e. Small minded and thus I see my comment proved by your own actions and comments, thus small minded bigot.
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Is that an opinion, or a personal insult. ???
Fact...............
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There are no borders when it comes to Muslims, the term British Muslim is totally nonsensical, their first priority is to Islam and not country, - correct
that is why so many go to fight and the rest sympathize with them,
thats not correct
why we let them back freakk knows.
Shia fights Sunni it's muslim v muslim still living in the middle ages.
B52's and carpet bomb the total area these muppets are in, as said few civilians
completely wrong.. those muppets are spread in to a very large area.. there are Turkish, Kurdish, arabic, syrian , millions of civilians how can you make carpet bombing :o
, then concentrate on the enemy within our own borders. >:(
ok.. some rights and wrongs.. as said dont tar with the same brush.. you may well know that I'm against religion.. but must correct this subject..
Agreed Cem, all points are for discussion that is why I made them for discussion, we all have to learn for others opinions and thoughts, remember some of mine are made to try and encourage a debate as indeed are some of yours. :y
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So you didn't call me a " small minded bigot" ???
No, I did. And I still think that.
And that's as an individual. Not an admin.
You have historically repeatedly commented upon numerous posts which have identified you as a bigot and by repeatedly commenting on same have confirmed you as restricted in your viewpoint I.e. Small see minded and thus I see my comment proved by your own actions and comments, thus small minded bigot.
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Is that an opinion, or a personal insult. ???
Fact...............
Fact that it is an opinion or personal insult.
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So you didn't call me a " small minded bigot" ???
No, I did. And I still think that.
And that's as an individual. Not an admin.
You have historically repeatedly commented upon numerous posts which have identified you as a bigot and by repeatedly commenting on same have confirmed you as restricted in your viewpoint I.e. Small see minded and thus I see my comment proved by your own actions and comments, thus small minded bigot.
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Is that an opinion, or a personal insult. ???
Fact...............
Fact that it is an opinion or personal insult.
That fact is indeed a fact.
And it's bedtime.
And that's also a fact......
Night night....
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So you didn't call me a " small minded bigot" ???
No, I did. And I still think that.
And that's as an individual. Not an admin.
You have historically repeatedly commented upon numerous posts which have identified you as a bigot and by repeatedly commenting on same have confirmed you as restricted in your viewpoint I.e. Small see minded and thus I see my comment proved by your own actions and comments, thus small minded bigot.
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Is that an opinion, or a personal insult. ???
Fact...............
Fact that it is an opinion or personal insult.
That fact is indeed a fact.
And it's bedtime.
And that's also a fact......
Night night....
While your there as you said in a PM "sit back on your thumb and pleasure yourself" :y
Remember your British not Scotch ;D night night and watch the missiles don't bite.
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To correctly quote me...
I'm not ginger, contrary to your wildly guessing supposition.
I said I would rather sit on my thumb than remove it and vent forth against individuals who are similarly full but lacking in product.
As an addition, I have always been scots first and British second.
Presumably the same as yourself. English first and British second. Or am I wrong???????
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News in usa says first beheading as taken place in the usa :( Apparently his fb page was filled with worrying gestures and pictures :(
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IS have won! They have divided our beloved forum and now they will conquer us. Gulp.....
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IS have won! They have divided our beloved forum and now they will conquer us. Gulp.....
Nah, we'll just Broocie to lift his mini skirt kilt, that should scare the oppsers off ;D ;D
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IS have won! They have divided our beloved forum and now they will conquer us. Gulp.....
No they haven't, it's pretty unanimous I'll bet.
.....Except one obviously ;D
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Bunker Buster's are on route ::)
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The world would be a very dull (yet peaceful) place if everyone agreed with everyone else.
The thing that sets the modern world apart is the acceptance of pluralism. ie you are free to have your own thoughts and beliefs in a world where we allow others to have their own. That doesn't mean that one forces others to think and believe the same as them, that wreeks of the same small-mindedness that upsets them in the first place.
The irony in somebody, living in a country which allows the freedom of expression and religion, saying that they do not want to allow someone from [enter other religion/race here] doing certain things because they believe them to restrict their own freedom is, frankly, deafening.
And by insulting someone, then saying that by putting smilies afterward neutralises it in to a joke shows a distinct lack of social custom. Afterall, by that rule I could call someone I hardly know a c*m-guzzling thunderc*nt. But put smilies after and "it's ok, it's a joke". In reality there are few friends of mine I would even refer to that as a joke, but I know each friend's boundaries to banter and where to stop.
I have met Broocie in the flesh, he is an utter gent and one of the nicest blokes on here. To P him off you have to have acted pretty poorly.
Plus, I agree with the sentiment. This is not a beat up Cleggy moment, but your comments on Muslims are misguided and factually incorrect. I often stay out of the conversations because I do not want to bang my head against the proverbial wall. Some of the things you say display a certain level of ignorance on this issue you claim to know so much about. I do not purport to be an expert on the subject of Islam but I am one of the few on here who has actually lived in a muslim country while growing up and spent time later on in the middle east being shot at. Remeber this, religion is a method of control used by those in power and war is an extension of politics by other means (not my words just mixing up a bit of Clauswitz with some left-wing propoganda) and when you mix the two the only outcome is a lack of freedom of expression.
Oh, and if you think that Christianity is any better in it's Gospel than Islam have a litle watch of this factual scene from The West Wing from a deeply Christian character :y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVL-gA1KpxQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVL-gA1KpxQ)
Again, this is not Cleggy bashing. But rather I am trying to open your eyes up a little :y
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The world would be a very dull (yet peaceful) place if everyone agreed with everyone else.
The thing that sets the modern world apart is the acceptance of pluralism. ie you are free to have your own thoughts and beliefs in a world where we allow others to have their own. That doesn't mean that one forces others to think and believe the same as them, that wreeks of the same small-mindedness that upsets them in the first place.
The irony in somebody, living in a country which allows the freedom of expression and religion, saying that they do not want to allow someone from [enter other religion/race here] doing certain things because they believe them to restrict their own freedom is, frankly, deafening.
And by insulting someone, then saying that by putting smilies afterward neutralises it in to a joke shows a distinct lack of social custom. Afterall, by that rule I could call someone I hardly know a c*m-guzzling thunderc*nt. But put smilies after and "it's ok, it's a joke". In reality there are few friends of mine I would even refer to that as a joke, but I know each friend's boundaries to banter and where to stop.
I have met Broocie in the flesh, he is an utter gent and one of the nicest blokes on here. To P him off you have to have acted pretty poorly.
Plus, I agree with the sentiment. This is not a beat up Cleggy moment, but your comments on Muslims are misguided and factually incorrect. I often stay out of the conversations because I do not want to bang my head against the proverbial wall. Some of the things you say display a certain level of ignorance on this issue you claim to know so much about. I do not purport to be an expert on the subject of Islam but I am one of the few on here who has actually lived in a muslim country while growing up and spent time later on in the middle east being shot at. Remeber this, religion is a method of control used by those in power and war is an extension of politics by other means (not my words just mixing up a bit of Clauswitz with some left-wing propoganda) and when you mix the two the only outcome is a lack of freedom of expression.
Oh, and if you think that Christianity is any better in it's Gospel than Islam have a litle watch of this factual scene from The West Wing from a deeply Christian character :y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVL-gA1KpxQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVL-gA1KpxQ)
Again, this is not Cleggy bashing. But rather I am trying to open your eyes up a little :y
How I agree with everything you have said Guffer!!! :y :y :y :y :y
I have been biting at the bit to come in on this heavy political thread, but said nothing so far as I know where that will end with some.................and me..................!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
So glad you have put every one of my feelings in words and phrases I support! :-* :-* :-* 8) 8) :y
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When have I personally insulted anyone ???
Some of your historic comments are such that they insult whole countries/races/and, sometimes, individuals by inference. Whether you mean that to happen or are oblivious to their impact without thinking,well, it cannot be read by anyone other than yourself.
I would dearly love to reaserch your posts and quote but Im on the mobile out in the country on a not good webby connection so that's just not viable. :)
Opinions are simply that opinions some of mine are for reaction. I have never personally insulted a fellow member unlike your comments tonight. Now man up and simply apologise for your offensive comments directed at myself, as I did earlier and PLAY NICELY :y
There you go Cleggy :y Post 19 http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=122893.0;all HTH
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FFS
Come on girls, lets not go dragging post up from 6 months ago just to make a point eh ;)
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In general terms, I am not offended by 99.9% of posts on here but sometimes, just sometimes, there's a post or three that are in my personal,non admin, position as a forum member beyond the pale or across the line as regards common decency or those generally accepted norms within which we function.
Some times the line is crossed and most times I refrain but this time, I bit. Hey ho....
I had hoped for a comment on the independence stuff tbh. Some of the bigotry surrounding the Union turns my stomach personally, and wondered if that was enough to drive most Scotts to independence on its own. I wouldn't blame them. Not even slightly, however much common sense prevailed in the end. (Imo anyway)
....way off topic mind but still curious. :)
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No. :)
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These freedom fighters that trot off to fight in Syria...do we know how many come from each country,i mean how many reside in England/Scotland/Wales.
Not being rude but I can barely understand my mate at work (west coast Scotland) so how the hell would a Muslim with strong scots accent be received or even worse a Taffy. ???
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These freedom fighters that trot off to fight in Syria...do we know how many come from each country,i mean how many reside in England/Scotland/Wales.
Not being rude but I can barely understand my mate at work (west coast Scotland) so how the hell would a Muslim with strong scots accent be received or even worse a Taffy. ???
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Not to mention any one of a hundred or more 'Regional' English accents that can be a problem to the untrained ear'ole such as: Broad Brummie or Mancunian or Bolton or Geordie eh :D ;D
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These freedom fighters that trot off to fight in Syria...do we know how many come from each country,i mean how many reside in England/Scotland/Wales.
Not being rude but I can barely understand my mate at work (west coast Scotland) so how the hell would a Muslim with strong scots accent be received or even worse a Taffy. ???
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Not to mention any one of a hundred or more 'Regional' English accents that can be a problem to the untrained ear'ole such as: Broad Brummie or Mancunian or Bolton or Geordie eh :D ;D
That's very true... ;D
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No. :)
Strong sense of a no vote as well there then?
Yeah.... I like the idea of disloyaly loyal personally.
....you may of noticed :-\ ;D
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Tornado flight crews include....
..... A female. According to Sky news. ....and footage of said crews walking across the Tarmac.
Given the mission, the irony is not lost on me. :y However blatantly obvious the story placement is.
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Tornado flight crews include....
..... A female. According to Sky news. ....and footage of said crews walking across the Tarmac.
Given the mission, the irony is not lost on me. :y However blatantly obvious the story placement is.
..being to fly over and taunt them a little, it seems. ;D
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I'd purposely avoided this thread, not even opened it, purely based on the subject, as I knew it would be full of phish that I wouldn't have the time to deal with :-[
So sorry for being late to the party.
Can I just get everybody to re-read the forum guidelines, specifically:
Members being offensive to other members will not be tolerated. Offensive or abusive public threads or private messages will be looked in to and appropriate action taken by the Moderators.
Remember, we are a global site, and have members from all over the world. If we can't be tolerant of other members, and have extremist views towards some, how is that different to the intolerants who start up extremist groups?
In the UK, as across most of the Western world, we are lucky enough to have free speech. However, with that comes the responsibility to not abuse that. The same applies to OOF, we allow free speech, but once it starts getting offensive, that has to stop. The only options Admins have is ban members frequently flouting the rules, or close down the General Chat area. Or both.
To paraphrase another Admin, out reason for being is to create a "better than Haynes" resource for keeping Omegas running. Silly squabbling, single mindedness, keyboard warrior bickering and so on do not feature in that vision, so do we need General Chat? Or troublemakers? I don't think so.
And that IS the final word on this thread >:(