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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Doctor Gollum on 27 February 2017, 05:39:06
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Anything particular to watch out for beyond body rust and making sure all the toys work :-\
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Engine wise nothing, oil is important on the V8 the recommended one in the handbook & sales brochure I have with mine is Mobil 1 fully synthetic, according to all the MB magazines & club info I have the engine (M113) is one of the best. Also recommend the auto box has an oil & filter change at around 80,000 miles, the gear change should be virtually unnoticeable.
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Sheepskin coat should be included at point of sale. CL is much classier and better looking!
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Sheepskin coat should be included at point of sale. CL is much classier and better looking!
I thought 'Arfur' owned an XJ6. :)
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Am looking towards the bottom of the pile for a functioning car rather than a museum piece ;)
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Am looking towards the bottom of the pile for a functioning car rather than a museum piece ;)
£2000 ish?
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Am looking towards the bottom of the pile for a functioning car rather than a museum piece ;)
£2000 ish?
Yes if you include a week all inclusive in Antigua ;D
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Am looking towards the bottom of the pile for a functioning car rather than a museum piece ;)
Regarding rust, from memory I thought mercs of this era could suffer structural rust while leaving the body relatively unscathed. Although this could be hearsay- I've not researched it personally.
If true, I wouldn't buy one without having it on a ramp first. :y
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All the grotty ones I have seen in passing have been visibly horrific. Car in mind looks reasonably clean if a little worn :-\
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W220??
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Yup ;)
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Money pit.
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Nice interior though :y
I'm all about the silver linings me :P
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Agree with Tilbs in as much as the engine and gearbox are likely to be the least of your worries if not abused.
Vacuum powered central locking will fail. Self lubricating plastic impellor wears overloading motor
Dashboard backlighting is high voltage CFL rather than LED and will fail at some point. Quite expensive to fix.
It will rust violently at some point if not treated to anti rust measures earlier in life
Mine has a quiessent drain the on the battery through the same circuit as the radio (suspect something to do with convenience pack but not had time to investigate yet)
Airmatic suspension bags/pumps/level sensor actuators are all fairly common fails...
Steering wheel buttons are poor...
Search W220 encyclopedia for more ...
Still one of my favourite cars and will only get replaced when the W221 becomes cheap :)
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Turban should be included at point of sale. CL is much classier and better looking!
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Turban should be included at point of sale. CL is much classier and better looking!
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It's not gold :D
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Turban should be included at point of sale. CL is much classier and better looking!
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It's not gold :D
If it was a W221 it'd be Black or Silver guaranteed. ;D All they bloody made :(
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Turban should be included at point of sale. CL is much classier and better looking!
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It's not gold :D
If it was a W221 it'd be Black or Silver guaranteed. ;D All they bloody made :(
Just like the Omega then ::)
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Am looking towards the bottom of the pile for a functioning car rather than a museum piece ;)
£2000 ish?
Yes if you include a week all inclusive in Antigua ;D
So a £500 (ish) 20 year old Merc.
I could mention the demonic 300SEL 6.3 from the late sixties and early seventies...........but not for £500. :'(
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Turban should be included at point of sale. CL is much classier and better looking!
;) I
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Scraping the bottom of the barrel for humour now.😞
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Only thing that worries me on mercs is electrical problems :-\
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Only thing that worries me on mercs is electrical problems :-\
Electrics are as much an issue on a modern Hyundai as they are on an older Merc/BMW/Jag etc ;)
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Only thing that worries me on mercs is electrical problems :-\
Electrics are as much an issue on a modern Hyundai as they are on an older Merc/BMW/Jag etc ;)
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I have all receipts/bills for my E class the only electrical failure has been on one of the rear window motors.
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Only thing that worries me on mercs is electrical problems :-\
Electrics are as much an issue on a modern Hyundai as they are on an older Merc/BMW/Jag etc ;)
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I have all receipts/bills for my E class the only electrical failure has been on one of the rear window motors.
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If Al offered you £8000 would you be tempted to part with her?
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Only thing that worries me on mercs is electrical problems :-\
Electrics are as much an issue on a modern Hyundai as they are on an older Merc/BMW/Jag etc ;)
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I have all receipts/bills for my E class the only electrical failure has been on one of the rear window motors.
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If Al offered you £8000 would you be tempted to part with her?
Spending that sort of cash wouldn't be an E class ;)
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Only thing that worries me on mercs is electrical problems :-\
Electrics are as much an issue on a modern Hyundai as they are on an older Merc/BMW/Jag etc ;)
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I have all receipts/bills for my E class the only electrical failure has been on one of the rear window motors.
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If Al offered you £8000 would you be tempted to part with her?
Spending that sort of cash wouldn't be an E class ;)
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Quite honestly I don't think I would sell it for £8,000 because I know I would regret it, the main reason being unless I have a lottery win it's the closest I will ever be to owning a new one (E63 AMG) 😉😉
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Well rang the seller with a view to looking tomorrow and trying to establish overall condition... A couple of bumper scuffs/drinks and apparently only just starting to bubble, but he hung up when I suggested that 'great export car' wasn't a particularly inspiring selling point... I was trying to establish whether it was worth viewing or not, but with that attitude I hope he has all 17' of it in the way for months...
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Well rang the seller with a view to looking tomorrow and trying to establish overall condition... A couple of bumper scuffs/drinks and apparently only just starting to bubble, but he hung up when I suggested that 'great export car' wasn't a particularly inspiring selling point... I was trying to establish whether it was worth viewing or not, but with that attitude I hope he has all 17' of it in the way for months...
The bumper was scuffed after drinks? That was pretty honest of him :y
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Buy a bad one & you will regret it especially an S class , this one certainly sounds suspect.
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Well rang the seller with a view to looking tomorrow and trying to establish overall condition... A couple of bumper scuffs/drinks and apparently only just starting to bubble, but he hung up when I suggested that 'great export car' wasn't a particularly inspiring selling point... I was trying to establish whether it was worth viewing or not, but with that attitude I hope he has all 17' of it in the way for months...
Good to see you're not just well adept at pissing people right off online; your skills also translate well to telecommunications :D ;)
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Buy a bad one & you will regret it especially an S class , this one certainly sounds suspect.
Nothing suspect about it... Px clearance with an MoT measured in hours and no history... ::) that said, MoT history looks pretty tidy, with absolutely no mention of chassis corrosion. Can they go from fine to rotten in a year and 7k miles?
He has reduced it by a quarter... and seems to specialise in ten year old hatchbacks, so clearly has no interest in older luxury barges.
Good to see you're not just well adept at pissing people right off online; your skills also translate well to telecommunications :D ;)
Er, thanks. I think... :D
His parting words were, "It's clearly not for you.". He clearly doesn't appreciate my approach to car ownership... ;D
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Buy a bad one & you will regret it especially an S class , this one certainly sounds suspect.
Nothing suspect about it... Px clearance with an MoT measured in hours and no history... ::) that said, MoT history looks pretty tidy, with absolutely no mention of chassis corrosion. Can they go from fine to rotten in a year and 7k miles?
He has reduced it by a quarter... and seems to specialise in ten year old hatchbacks, so clearly has no interest in older luxury barges.
Good to see you're not just well adept at pissing people right off online; your skills also translate well to telecommunications :D ;)
Er, thanks. I think... :D
His parting words were, "It's clearly not for you.". He clearly doesn't appreciate my approach to car ownership... ;D
Bodywork wise yes. In fact that seems to be the modus operandi. Like a pear. Rock hard one day... mush the next ::)
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Either he knows it will fail, or he simply can't be arsed... but for the sake of £50, not putting it through an MoT makes no sense to me :-\ especially when a friendly garage will do the test first, then do the computer bit if it passes... ::)
When I asked if he had had it up in the air, his reply was, "not for £750..."
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As Stemo said could turn into a money pit , short MOT & not bothering to put it through another best avoided, in my opinion. As for corrosion underneath I looked at several Mercs &checked the MOT history no mention of chassis problems but most had brake pipe advisories.
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Nothing... over the years, some tyre issues, couple of ball joints, headlamp aim and that's it. Last failure was 2014 and for a number plate bulb...
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Nothing... over the years, some tyre issues, couple of ball joints, headlamp aim and that's it. Last failure was 2014 and for a number plate bulb...
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Yes that's usually the normal advisories, what was the mileage ? How old is it ?
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Nothing... over the years, some tyre issues, couple of ball joints, headlamp aim and that's it. Last failure was 2014 and for a number plate bulb...
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Yes that's usually the normal advisories, what was the mileage ? How old is it ?
100k and '99 T ;)
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That's nothing on one of those, might be worth a look for £750..
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Either he knows it will fail, or he simply can't be arsed... but for the sake of £50, not putting it through an MoT makes no sense to me :-\ especially when a friendly garage will do the test first, then do the computer bit if it passes... ::)
When I asked if he had had it up in the air, his reply was, "not for £750..."
Cos he's a dealer... why would he mess about failing an MOT when he's given £300 for it, he's going to sell it for £750 to someone.. 450 for doing sod all is better than any amount of money for doing something.
I'm inclined to agree in this case... for £750 you either want it or you don't. Beggars can't be choosers and all that. They're only going to go up in value if kept running from now on. Decent ones are 3-4k and still suffer all the usual suspects.
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I suspect that the dealer gave peanuts for it and is trying to make a few quid on it and the not testing it means that he can more legitimately hide behind the 'Sold as seen' bs rather than actually being deceptive :-\
Needs seeing/driving really, but was trying to decide whether the 80 mile round trip was worth it or not... hence ringing first, but his attitude on the phone makes me want to not bother, but the car could potentially be alright :-\ Fuel economy and insurance cost are broadly similar to the 525i... be more comfortable too ;)
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I suspect that the dealer gave peanuts for it and is trying to make a few quid on it and the not testing it means that he can more legitimately hide behind the 'Sold as seen' bs rather than actually being deceptive :-\
Needs seeing/driving really, but was trying to decide whether the 80 mile round trip was worth it or not... hence ringing first, but his attitude on the phone makes me want to not bother, but the car could potentially be alright :-\ Fuel economy and insurance cost are broadly similar to the 525i... be more comfortable too ;)
Of course. Besides why would he take it in PX knowing it was fnarked?
Where is it?
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Sevenoaks...
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Sevenoaks...
Ugh. France.
(http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/forum1/images/smilies/ttiwwp.gif)
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Would holes underneath be relatively obvious on these?
By that I mean daylight from one rear arch to the other like a rotten W116... Would jacking it up at each jacking point and having a poke around suffice?
Exhaust, tyres and lights are all pretty obvious, either acceptable or not, similarly gadgets either work or don't...
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Would holes underneath be relatively obvious on these?
By that I mean daylight from one rear arch to the other like a rotten W116... Would jacking it up at each jacking point and having a poke around suffice?
Exhaust, tyres and lights are all pretty obvious, either acceptable or not, similarly gadgets either work or don't...
He's not going to entertain that anyway I don't suspect ;)
Just stop being a pussy and buy it anyway :P Or give me the details mwhahaha
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What would it be worth in bits?
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This is a £750 car, right? FFS, Al....get it bought or forget about it. Personally, I wouldn't buy any car for £750, let alone a complicated beast like this.
I might as well just say it......for £750 it will be a heap of shite trouble.
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This is a £750 car, right? FFS, Al....get it bought or forget about it. Personally, I wouldn't buy any car for £750, let alone a complicated beast like this.
I might as well just say it......for £750 it will be a heap of shite trouble.
Better to have a stationary S430 than a moving Astra :D
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This is a £750 car, right? FFS, Al....get it bought or forget about it. Personally, I wouldn't buy any car for £750, let alone a complicated beast like this.
I might as well just say it......for £750 it will be a heap of shite trouble.
Better to have a stationary S430 than a moving Astra :D
Of course....a statement worthy of a two-year-old always helps the conversation along.
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What would it be worth in bits?
Not a lot. Plenty of them beyond eco repair should mean no shortage of bits avail. Plus most of the bits are badly engineered and thus no use secondhand :)
AMG alloys? HIDs?
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This is a £750 car, right? FFS, Al....get it bought or forget about it. Personally, I wouldn't buy any car for £750, let alone a complicated beast like this.
I might as well just say it......for £750 it will be a heap of shite trouble.
Better to have a stationary S430 than a moving Astra :D
Of course....a statement worthy of a two-year-old always helps the conversation along.
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Exactly :)
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This is a £750 car, right? FFS, Al....get it bought or forget about it. Personally, I wouldn't buy any car for £750, let alone a complicated beast like this.
I might as well just say it......for £750 it will be a heap of shite trouble.
Exactly, like any sub £1k S-class/7-series/A8/Jaguar XJ/ Range Rover/Shogun/etc it's the sort of thing you buy on a whim as a toy. When it breaks, which it will because stuff like that need owners with healthy wallets to keep them reliable, throw it away. Cars like that are not the sort of thing to buy for a car you need to depend upon.
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This is a £750 car, right? FFS, Al....get it bought or forget about it. Personally, I wouldn't buy any car for £750, let alone a complicated beast like this.
I might as well just say it......for £750 it will be a heap of shite trouble.
Exactly, like any sub £1k S-class/7-series/A8/Jaguar XJ/ Range Rover/Shogun/etc it's the sort of thing you buy on a whim as a toy. When it breaks, which it will because stuff like that need owners with healthy wallets to keep them reliable, throw it away. Cars like that are not the sort of thing to buy for a car you need to depend upon.
When I was a boy it was said that Mercedes cars were hewn from granite.
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What would it be worth in bits?
Not a lot. Plenty of them beyond eco repair should mean no shortage of bits avail. Plus most of the bits are badly engineered and thus no use secondhand :)
AMG alloys? HIDs?
No, standard 7 spoke 16"s. Possibly Hids, has headlight washers :-\ Does have heated/vented/electric seats all round along with electric column. Base radio judging by the presence of a cover panel. No sunroof as near as I can tell.
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This is a £750 car, right? FFS, Al....get it bought or forget about it. Personally, I wouldn't buy any car for £750, let alone a complicated beast like this.
I might as well just say it......for £750 it will be a heap of shite trouble.
Exactly, like any sub £1k S-class/7-series/A8/Jaguar XJ/ Range Rover/Shogun/etc it's the sort of thing you buy on a whim as a toy. When it breaks, which it will because stuff like that need owners with healthy wallets to keep them reliable, throw it away. Cars like that are not the sort of thing to buy for a car you need to depend upon.
When I was a boy it was said that Mercedes cars were hewn from granite.
Be a bit heavy, surely?
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What would it be worth in bits?
Not a lot. Plenty of them beyond eco repair should mean no shortage of bits avail. Plus most of the bits are badly engineered and thus no use secondhand :)
AMG alloys? HIDs?
No, standard 7 spoke 16"s. Possibly Hids, has headlight washers :-\ Does have heated/vented/electric seats all round along with electric column. Base radio judging by the presence of a cover panel. No sunroof as near as I can tell.
Silver I presume?
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I suspect that the dealer gave peanuts for it and is trying to make a few quid on it and the not testing it means that he can more legitimately hide behind the 'Sold as seen' bs rather than actually being deceptive :-\
Needs seeing/driving really, but was trying to decide whether the 80 mile round trip was worth it or not... hence ringing first, but his attitude on the phone makes me want to not bother, but the car could potentially be alright :-\ Fuel economy and insurance cost are broadly similar to the 525i... be more comfortable too ;)
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80 mile trip that's a walk in the park! Had to get a train to Edinburgh when I bought my 190e .Get it bought 😉
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What would it be worth in bits?
Not a lot. Plenty of them beyond eco repair should mean no shortage of bits avail. Plus most of the bits are badly engineered and thus no use secondhand :)
AMG alloys? HIDs?
No, standard 7 spoke 16"s. Possibly Hids, has headlight washers :-\ Does have heated/vented/electric seats all round along with electric column. Base radio judging by the presence of a cover panel. No sunroof as near as I can tell.
Silver I presume?
Yeah, Z157 ;D... not...
Bordeaux Red or Almadine at a guess with Java? Interior, creamy biscuit colour interior.
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What would it be worth in bits?
Not a lot. Plenty of them beyond eco repair should mean no shortage of bits avail. Plus most of the bits are badly engineered and thus no use secondhand :)
AMG alloys? HIDs?
No, standard 7 spoke 16"s. Possibly Hids, has headlight washers :-\ Does have heated/vented/electric seats all round along with electric column. Base radio judging by the presence of a cover panel. No sunroof as near as I can tell.
Silver I presume?
Yeah, Z157 ;D... not...
Bordeaux Red or Almadine at a guess with Java? Interior, creamy biscuit colour interior.
Get it viewed, or better still bought. You've lost more than £750 on motors in the past ::) Besides which, its worth near on £200 in scrap of it all goes to sh!t ;)
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This is a £750 car, right? FFS, Al....get it bought or forget about it. Personally, I wouldn't buy any car for £750, let alone a complicated beast like this.
I might as well just say it......for £750 it will be a heap of shite trouble.
Exactly, like any sub £1k S-class/7-series/A8/Jaguar XJ/ Range Rover/Shogun/etc it's the sort of thing you buy on a whim as a toy. When it breaks, which it will because stuff like that need owners with healthy wallets to keep them reliable, throw it away. Cars like that are not the sort of thing to buy for a car you need to depend upon.
When I was a boy it was said that Mercedes cars were hewn from granite.
When you were a boy - they were. That went tits up in the late 90,s.
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If I were you I would go and view it and test drive it. If it seems good mechanically and electrically, buy it, get it home, then examine it closely for serious rust. If it has any, buy a mig welder, practice a little, then cut out the rust and weld new metal in.
You then have a good solid car for little money. :y
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This is a £750 car, right? FFS, Al....get it bought or forget about it. Personally, I wouldn't buy any car for £750, let alone a complicated beast like this.
I might as well just say it......for £750 it will be a heap of shite trouble.
Exactly, like any sub £1k S-class/7-series/A8/Jaguar XJ/ Range Rover/Shogun/etc it's the sort of thing you buy on a whim as a toy. When it breaks, which it will because stuff like that need owners with healthy wallets to keep them reliable, throw it away. Cars like that are not the sort of thing to buy for a car you need to depend upon.
When I was a boy it was said that Mercedes cars were hewn from granite.
That was only ever true when they were treated to open wallet maintenance. As soon as that stopped(third/fourth owner onwards?), so did the dependability. And Mercs/BMWs/Porsches/etc always rusted, they just took a little longer for it to show.
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What would it be worth in bits?
Not a lot. Plenty of them beyond eco repair should mean no shortage of bits avail. Plus most of the bits are badly engineered and thus no use secondhand :)
AMG alloys? HIDs?
No, standard 7 spoke 16"s. Possibly Hids, has headlight washers :-\ Does have heated/vented/electric seats all round along with electric column. Base radio judging by the presence of a cover panel. No sunroof as near as I can tell.
Silver I presume?
Yeah, Z157 ;D... not...
Bordeaux Red or Almadine at a guess with Java? Interior, creamy biscuit colour interior.
Jesus christ man, the private plate is worth that much! :o
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I shall go and have a look tomorrow... ;)
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You best had. Looking around at prices... the post 2004 cars are not falling at all. In a few years time it's going to be difficult to buy anything for less than £5k I think :(
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this one is it? http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201702172410990
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I shall go and have a look tomorrow... ;)
You bought it then :D
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I shall go and have a look tomorrow... ;)
You bought it then :D
Yes, drives a treat :D :D
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I shall go and have a look tomorrow... ;)
You bought it then :D
Yes, drives a treat :D :D
Pictures or it didn't happen. :P
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Someone has apparently put a deposit down... Fortunately I checked before I left the house ::)
Would have proposed a straight swap for the 5 Series. Sod paying actual cash for it ;D
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Had a set of wheels with legal tyres lined up just in case and a replacement rear bumper in the correct colour and all for less than £150...
Parts seem to be a third cheaper than the W140 :-\
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Someone has apparently put a deposit down... Fortunately I checked before I left the house ::)
Would have proposed a straight swap for the 5 Series. Sod paying actual cash for it ;D
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That's a pity I was looking forward to see how you got on with the Mercedes, plenty of others around though.😉
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Sthewayitgoes... with a years ticket, the 525i has just doubled in value 8)
£1,400 gives alot more choice...
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Sthewayitgoes... with a years ticket, the 525i has just doubled in value 8)
£1,400 gives alot more choice...
In your mind maybe :P ;)
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Sthewayitgoes... with a years ticket, the 525i has just doubled in value 8)
£1,400 gives alot more choice...
In your mind maybe :P ;)
Have you seen the prices lately :o
Besides I washed it too :P
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I have just made an insulting offer on a CL500. Don't ask, don't get. ;D
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I have just made an insulting offer on a CL500. Don't ask, don't get. ;D
Stylish coupe.
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I have just made an insulting offer on a CL500. Don't ask, don't get. ;D
Tru dat ;D
What age?
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Sthewayitgoes... with a years ticket, the 525i has just doubled in value 8)
£1,400 gives alot more choice...
Filled it up, have we?
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Sthewayitgoes... with a years ticket, the 525i has just doubled in value 8)
£1,400 gives alot more choice...
Filled it up, have we?
Mock away :P
...and while you're doing that, have a gander at petrol 525s on Autotrader ;)