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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 August 2021, 18:13:50
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For 20 years the western worlds most powerful militaries battled the Taliban and apparently reduced them to a rag tag guerrilla outfit. At the same time they spent millions, probably billions training and equipping the Afghan National Army. Yet as soon as the western countries pull out, the Taliban are routing the ANA with apparent ease. :-\
How can this be? ??? How are the Taliban so powerful? ??? Who funds and equips them? ??? China? Russia? Iran? ???
Did the USA, UK and other coalition partners take their eye off the ball and so the Taliban regrouped under their noses? ??? :-\
It seems to me that Afghanistan will become a humanitarian tragedy on an epic scale if the Taliban are allowed to take over again and if so, Europe had better brace for another wave of refugees/migrants. ::) :-\
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And terrorists. eeeeeeee.......it's a rum do, lad. ;D
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If we hadn't left all the kit behind, they might have been stuck with a couple of Toyota Hiluxes, a box of ammo and a pile of AK47s...
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Agreed Tigger. The outcome is a disaster.
Merkel has changed her stance on refugees. No longer open arms, other countries have got to help. Current estimate is 370,000 on the move. And why wouldn’t you leave your home? That is the problem.
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>:( All those poor soldiers who died , had legs blown off and those were left horribly maimed , all for what , so some grandstanding gob shyate politicians could make statements about "the war on terror" . It's disgusting how these soldiers sacrifices have come to nothing , give it 6 months and the Taliban will have complete control of the country and turn it back to the stone age >:(
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>:( All those poor soldiers who died , had legs blown off and those were left horribly maimed , all for what , so some grandstanding gob shyate politicians could make statements about "the war on terror" . It's disgusting how these soldiers sacrifices have come to nothing , give it 6 days and the Taliban will have complete control of the country and turn it back to the stone age >:(
Fixed.
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For 20 years the western worlds most powerful militaries battled the Taliban and apparently reduced them to a rag tag guerrilla outfit. At the same time they spent millions, probably billions training and equipping the Afghan National Army. Yet as soon as the western countries pull out, the Taliban are routing the ANA with apparent ease. :-\
How can this be? ??? How are the Taliban so powerful? ??? Who funds and equips them? ??? China? Russia? Iran? ???
Did the USA, UK and other coalition partners take their eye off the ball and so the Taliban regrouped under their noses? ??? :-\
It seems to me that Afghanistan will become a humanitarian tragedy on an epic scale if the Taliban are allowed to take over again and if so, Europe had better brace for another wave of refugees/migrants. ::) :-\
Hell of a long way in a rubber dinghy.
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Maybe. Cubans travel to Russia on " holiday" to cross a river on a lilo to get into Europe.
Afghan refugees might as well walk to Europe if they have been displaced from their homes. At least there might be a life for them here.
No comments on Tiggers original comment about just what has gone wrong.The West stamped out the Taliban over twenty years and leave and twenty minutes later they have won back huge chunks.
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>:( All those poor soldiers who died , had legs blown off and those were left horribly maimed , all for what , so some grandstanding gob shyate politicians could make statements about "the war on terror" . It's disgusting how these soldiers sacrifices have come to nothing , give it 6 months and the Taliban will have complete control of the country and turn it back to the stone age >:(
There's nothing new about this, we did it in 1842.
And again in 1880.
Then nearly 100 years later, the Russians had a go.
Each attempt has led to a glorious retreat, leaving the locals firmly in charge. Still
Afghanistan is no longer an important trade route, so we have no reason to be there unlike the Victorians. It's a shitty place that's perfect for winning a guerrilla war, which they've been doing for centuries.
The Taliban(anti-American, mostly) is just the Mujahideen renamed and pointed at the new 'invaders'
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Maybe. Cubans travel to Russia on " holiday" to cross a river on a lilo to get into Europe.
Afghan refugees might as well walk to Europe if they have been displaced from their homes. At least there might be a life for them here.
No comments on Tiggers original comment about just what has gone wrong.The West stamped out the Taliban over twenty years and leave and twenty minutes later they have won back huge chunks.
Perhaps the Taliban never left...
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Maybe. Cubans travel to Russia on " holiday" to cross a river on a lilo to get into Europe.
Afghan refugees might as well walk to Europe if they have been displaced from their homes. At least there might be a life for them here.
No comments on Tiggers original comment about just what has gone wrong.The West stamped out the Taliban over twenty years and leave and twenty minutes later they have won back huge chunks.
Perhaps the Taliban never left...
Probably just melted into the mountains and waited for the infidels to pack up and leave.
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Perhaps... Probably....
But were are they getting their weapons and munitions from?
Who funds them?
Where have they been training?
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Pakistan, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia?
The Taliban make good money from drugs and mining rights too.
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Perhaps... Probably....
But were are they getting their weapons and munitions from?
Who funds them?
Where have they been training?
They've lived there for centuries. Nothing much has changed, except some influence from outside. But it was also a major trade route for centuries, so influence isn't unusual. When your religion encourages extremely conservative thinking, that influence has to be useful - what use are fancy electronics you can't use or power when you can't afford to keep your children alive from illnesses we have eradicated? Or even books if you can't read? It's been proved repeatedly that the best way to reduce extreme poverty and population problems is clean water, education for everyone and contraception. Note that the Taliban were are assiduous about persecuting teachers and destroying schools.
You don't need much weaponry to fight that sort of war; consider how much kit Russia and then the West threw at them, and the minimal effect it had. And simple firearms are not difficult to make. The hard part is ammunition, which you steal. Or buy:
The valuable crop is opium, and has been for centuries. We buy it. Their money came from us.
Why would they go anywhere else to train for fighting in their own region? Guerrilla warfare isn't about fighting large battles, or even skirmishes; it's hit hard, unexpectedly and melt back into the background. You can't tell that one local is a fighter and another a farmer just by looking at them. We've already covered that high tech weaponry isn't appropriate for the fighting they do.
Invading Afghanistan has always been a moronic thing to do. We never learn.
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If the Humvees on tellybox are any indication, then there's no shortage of equipment in the country for them to be getting on with, not to mention all the arms that the Russians, Iranians and Pakistanis have been slinging their way :-X
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According to reports, the Taliban now control 65% of Afghanistan. :(
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According to reports, the Taliban now control 65% of Afghanistan. :(
They are the indigenous population.....
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According to reports, the Taliban now control 65% of Afghanistan. :(
They are the indigenous population.....
That's not very diverse. Someone should write a strongly worded letter...
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According to reports, the Taliban now control 65% of Afghanistan. :(
They are the indigenous population.....
That's not very diverse. Someone should write a strongly worded letter...
They are not diverse at all. Which is one of the reasons why the west hasn't defeated them in over 200 years of trying
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I was being slightly facetious, but you are quite right. They are as old as the hills they inhabit.
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>:( All those poor soldiers who died , had legs blown off and those were left horribly maimed , all for what , so some grandstanding gob shyate politicians could make statements about "the war on terror" . It's disgusting how these soldiers sacrifices have come to nothing , give it 6 months and the Taliban will have complete control of the country and turn it back to the stone age >:(
Fully agree. That is the real tragedy of the situation. So much waste of British soldiers lives with many others ruined :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( >:( >:(
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Wars have to be fought to stop tyrants/rogue nations from imposing their will upon others or damaging free states. But, when the fighting is over, nobody wins.
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>:( All those poor soldiers who died , had legs blown off and those were left horribly maimed , all for what , so some grandstanding gob shyate politicians could make statements about "the war on terror" . It's disgusting how these soldiers sacrifices have come to nothing , give it 6 months and the Taliban will have complete control of the country and turn it back to the stone age >:(
Fully agree. That is the real tragedy of the situation. So much waste of British soldiers lives with many others ruined :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( >:( >:(
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You sign up to the armed forces ,you are aware of what could happen & it often does if you get through unscathed you are one of the lucky ones nobody forces you to do it you are a certain type and take the rough with the smooth.
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It looks like the Taliban are wearing the trousers again.
Didn't take long, did it. :)
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>:( All those poor soldiers who died , had legs blown off and those were left horribly maimed , all for what , so some grandstanding gob shyate politicians could make statements about "the war on terror" . It's disgusting how these soldiers sacrifices have come to nothing , give it 6 months and the Taliban will have complete control of the country and turn it back to the stone age >:(
Fully agree. That is the real tragedy of the situation. So much waste of British soldiers lives with many others ruined :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( >:( >:(
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You sign up to the armed forces ,you are aware of what could happen & it often does if you get through unscathed you are one of the lucky ones nobody forces you to do it you are a certain type and take the rough with the smooth.
Yes, young men, and women, often think of the 'glory' of joining up and going into battle, as once my 18 year old son did with the idea that "his mates and him lived together, trained together, fought together, and if necessary died together" - something I did not want to hear him say!!
But that was his attitude, as it was for the young men who joined up in 1914 for the Great War, and even then others doing the same for WW2. So again, yes, it is what young people do. BUT, it does not negate the terrible loss and suffering for those who fought in Afghanistan when the politicians decide they should fight there, then decide it was all a mistake and pull them out.
However, if they had of done that in 1915 perhaps hundreds of thousand of lives could have been saved and maybe the "Right War" that was WW2 could have been avoided with millions of lives saved.
Such is the waste caused by man and in the case of Afghanistan for what? As others have correctly pointed out that country has been fought over for hundreds of years; it is a warrior nation that loves "the fight". As with the likes of Vietnam, Iraq, and now Afghanistan they were / are wars fought because of politicians mistaken beliefs, warped ideology, and a play in the game of power.
One day mankind will learn that war, a terrible final element of failed diplomacy to date, is not worth it and breeds further conflict and political tension. The Great War, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan are all living proof of that, which is evident in World politics today.
I reckon mankind has one hundred years of the madness of war left, if climate change hasn't killed the human race off by then! ::) ::)
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>:( All those poor soldiers who died , had legs blown off and those were left horribly maimed , all for what , so some grandstanding gob shyate politicians could make statements about "the war on terror" . It's disgusting how these soldiers sacrifices have come to nothing , give it 6 days and the Taliban will have complete control of the country and turn it back to the stone age >:(
Fixed.
They've got until Sunday...
I reckon they'll be pretty much there by then...
Climate is a fluid, complex self balancing system. It is constantly adjusting, aka changing.
If the ecomentalists and lefties practiced what they preached rather than causing no end of disruption by gluing and chaining themselves to everything that moves and setting wildfires to prove their (rather weak) points, the natural climatic adjustments might be less severe :-X
Last summer was all about hearing the birds and how nice it was that there were no planes or traffic. This year we're all going to burn to death because no one is buying electric cars they can't afford (never mind the fact that, as an example, California doesn't have any water left to fight the fires because they need it all to power hydroelectric plants to keep all the electric cars in San Francisco and LA charged :-X)
Anyhoo, back to Kabul...
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>:( All those poor soldiers who died , had legs blown off and those were left horribly maimed , all for what , so some grandstanding gob shyate politicians could make statements about "the war on terror" . It's disgusting how these soldiers sacrifices have come to nothing , give it 6 days and the Taliban will have complete control of the country and turn it back to the stone age >:(
Fixed.
They've got until Sunday...
I reckon they'll be pretty much there by then...
Climate is a fluid, complex self balancing system. It is constantly adjusting, aka changing.
If the ecomentalists and lefties practiced what they preached rather than causing no end of disruption by gluing and chaining themselves to everything that moves and setting wildfires to prove their (rather weak) points, the natural climatic adjustments might be less severe :-X
Last summer was all about hearing the birds and how nice it was that there were no planes or traffic. This year we're all going to burn to death because no one is buying electric cars they can't afford (never mind the fact that, as an example, California doesn't have any water left to fight the fires because they need it all to power hydroelectric plants to keep all the electric cars in San Francisco and LA charged :-X)
Anyhoo, back to Kabul...
Very relevant...to something.....certainly not this thread ;D
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I've never know anyone to one so many :-X :-X :-X and yet say so much :-X
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I guess at the end of the day the Taliban have God on their side. :-X
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LZ was the one that brought climate change into it. :P
God willing or not, they certainly know what they are doing...
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I guess at the end of the day the Taliban have God on their side. :-X
That's what they claim. Anyone can invent their own god, so it's not helpful.
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The footage coming out of ordinary people and their views is quite chilling.
Mankind at its worst. Nothing new though. We keep seeing it .
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Things aren't much different here below the surface... Most people just want to get on with their lives in their own little worlds. The powers that be are always at loggerheads with the powers that want to be and every so often something bumps into our bubbles.
The less developed a country, the more brutal this becomes. The Taliban are still firmly rooted in the dark ages, and how they treat anyone who stands in their way needs annihilated.
We should probably have levelled the mountains when we had the chance.
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Yes! Or, just left them alone to kill each other.......... what’s it to us?? Why should we get our own children into their shithole, they are obviously not evolved enough to be a part of today’s world.
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Yes! Or, just left them alone to kill each other.......... what’s it to us?? Why should we get our own children into their shithole, they are obviously not evolved enough to be a part of today’s world.
The question then arises as to what happens to those Afghans who want no part of the Taliban and their regime? Or the kids orphaned? Etc, etc...
We could bring them all here, but then they would resent the upheaval and we're back to square one, only here not there... Or we could spend loads of time and money over there trying to fix something that's different rather than broken. And have them all resent the interference.
If they want their kingdom at any price, then cut them off from the world they want no part of. But accept that the price for doing so is to throw normal Afghans under the bus.
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I accept it’s terrible and feel for the normal poor folk there, but they don’t seem to want to fight for themselves and their country, they had a long time to gear up for the inevitable withdrawal of the forces deployed there. And must have known it was coming? It seems like it’s just let’s get out as fast as we can instead of let’s fight to keep what we’ve got, but of course there are lots of folk there that were waiting for this not just Taliban, it’s very complicated out there, and it seems however many deaths, hardships, it’s just not going to change. The Taliban wants Sharia law which even to the most right wing needs a bit of updating👀 we’ve got 600 troops now going in to protect our own. But why the fk didn’t we get the interpreters etc out the same time as we withdrew? Surely someone should have known this was going to go this way? I even thought this and I know fk all about this stuff in comparison to our paid designated, professional, wan£ers. Couple. I’ve not long got home from a good night out so I may have made a mistake or two, I’ll leave it to you all if you think I GAF. 👍👍
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GAF ?
Give Afghanistan Future.
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Maybe it’s time we looked after our own poor people here, build a Trump style wall all along the coast of our island. That would solve a few of our problems ::)
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we don't need a wall, we have a moat ;)
but kudos for trying to get more work for builders/brick layers :D
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we don't need a wall, we have a moat ;)
but kudos for trying to get more work for builders/brick layers :D
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The solution is simple but nobody in power has the balls to do it
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We need some man eating sharks to put in the moat ,BUT, we need more global warming so the sharks don't freeze their tits off in our coastal waters , I'm doing my part by driving an 18 year old petrol V6 :)
it's not working fast enough :(
but blasting approaching boats with shells from gun boats is frowned upon apparently :-\
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According to Sippy Cup, there's no likelihood of the Taliban from regaining significant control over Afghanistan (https://youtu.be/CiAZ94v048s) ::)
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He’s about as alert as a cream puff
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He’s about as alert as a cream puff
I think you're doing cream puffs a disservice! :P
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He’s about as alert as a cream puff
That was a month ago. Today they're moving 3,500 troops to Kuwait from the US just in case they need to evacuate the embassy by force ::)
Yes, I know it's Fox News... At the same time he has offered aid in exchange for not blowing up the embassy and everyone in it. (https://youtu.be/qATnRR9Qg5E)
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https://youtu.be/oUoBnDukYFk
Meanwhile, the 'How many people can you fit on a HMMVV? Competition is drawing to a close...
Joking aside, I reckon Sunday could well see them entering Kabul :-\
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We should never have poked our noses in the first place. Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Korea, Vietnam......all shitshows that sent the west packing.
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I mistakenly put Iran in there, but don't hold your breath, it may happen yet.
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Perhaps the Israelis will beat them to it. :-\
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We should never have poked our noses in the first place. Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Korea, Vietnam......all shitshows that sent the west packing.
Should have included Ireland; we've only been there for a 1000 years.
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We should never have poked our noses in the first place. Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Korea, Vietnam......all shitshows that sent the west packing.
Libya...
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Indeed let the idiots kill each other, surely it’s a win win for us??? How the cluck are we going to police the world, and further more why should we? Leave them to evolve THEY ARE BACKWARD.
They need to catch up.
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Indeed let the idiots kill each other, surely it’s a win win for us??? How the cluck are we going to police the world, and further more why should we? Leave them to evolve THEY ARE BACKWARD.
They need to catch up.
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" The Ragheads" as we affectionately used to call them are more than happy to continue in their own timewarp customs & conditions, but the educated & wise just want to bring them forward God alone knows why,
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Taliban Air Force! (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/taliban-seen-flying-captured-military-helicopters-over-afghanistan) :-\
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I told you not to leave the keys in it ::)
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Unbelievable incompetence 😶😶 and Biden is a self-abuser
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Taliban Air Force! (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/taliban-seen-flying-captured-military-helicopters-over-afghanistan) :-\
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Spoils of war if you need it take it.
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The Afgan army have taken the training and all the money ,benefits, lifestyle and equipment for years,
now they have to do their job and defend against the Taliban ,they are all giving up, waving their white flags ,defecting >:(
did they get trained by the French :-\
I really hope our people can get out without more needless injuries and loss of life .
i fear not ,now the Taliban have captured (or got handed) US and UK weapons and hardware :(
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Well, it would seem my six day prediction was accurate...
They've entered Kabul.
And apparently Bagram...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/aug/15/afghanistan-taliban-close-in-on-kabul-as-last-government-stronghold-in-north-falls
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In the great Ian Durys words……… what a waste……….. and we’ve funded it🤬
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In the great Ian Durys words……… what a waste……….. and we’ve funded it🤬
I'd have probably gone with 'hit me with your rhythm stick'
Although Walt Whitman might be more appropriate :-\ (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45469/beat-beat-drums)
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In the great Ian Durys words……… what a waste……….. and we’ve funded it🤬
I'd have probably gone with 'hit me with your rhythm stick'
Although Walt Whitman might be more appropriate :-\ (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45469/beat-beat-drums)
certainly NOT the B side of that single as far as Afghanistan goes :P
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Perhaps not :-\
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No😃 not even Trevor👍🤣
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Wont be long before the West is flooded with Heroin again and Al Queda terrorists will be planning western atrocities again from the Tora Bora mountains.
What a a fickin mess Blair and Bush got us into. >:(
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In the great Ian Durys words……… what a waste……….. and we’ve funded it🤬
I'd have probably gone with 'hit me with your rhythm stick'
Although Walt Whitman might be more appropriate :-\ (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45469/beat-beat-drums)
Kipling wrote specifically about the second Afghan war. Roll to your rifle and Kim show that 140 years of 'progress' have changed nothing.
Or Harold Macmillan in 1963 - The first rule of politics should be to never invade Afghanistan.
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We should never have gone in ...........
Why treat the symptoms when you can cure the problem by cutting the head off the cause.
Should have invaded Pakistan
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US helicopters ferrying embassy staff to the Airport , panicking civilians desperately trying to escape . Vietnam all over again , will the West ever learn ?
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Let's hope Afghanistan doesn't revert to this (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1426891536642580484.html). :-\
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Let's hope Afghanistan doesn't revert to this (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1426891536642580484.html). :-\
A bit late for hope :'(
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To be fair to the Taliban , Gemma Collins in a swim suit would be an excuse for a curfew :y
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Perhaps you could move there with your missus/daughter and see what they have to say about that :-X
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We should never have gone in ...........
Why treat the symptoms when you can cure the problem by cutting the head off the cause.
Should have invaded Pakistan
That's the same problem as invading many of the middle eastern 'countries' that were created 200 years ago by drawing lines across tribal areas. Religious differences exacerbate the resulting mess.
Add the arrogance that our power requires us to force political dogma(which is of no practical difference to religious cults) on people to whom it has no relevance, and trouble is guaranteed.
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Leave them to it, just fortify or own island. Give them time to kill each other and catch up with the ‘modern’ world, we have enough pain and suffering here let’s have a go sorting our own mess out for a change, There’s been millions wasted there, it could have done a lot of good here. A lot of our troops have died there too which is of course the worse thing, and now it looks as if it was for no gain for Afghanistan or the Uk.
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Perhaps you could move there with your missus/daughter and see what they have to say about that :-X
I've told the Mrs that I've booked a Suprise holiday for her :y
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I just feel incredibly sad for the young people of Afghanistan who have had their futures ripped out from under them in a matter of days. :'(
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In the great Ian Durys words……… what a waste……….. and we’ve funded it🤬
I'd have probably gone with 'hit me with your rhythm stick'
Although Walt Whitman might be more appropriate :-\ (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45469/beat-beat-drums)
Kipling wrote specifically about the second Afghan war. Roll to your rifle and Kim show that 140 years of 'progress' have changed nothing.
Or Harold Macmillan in 1963 - The first rule of politics should be to never invade Afghanistan.
You can't mention Kipling in 2021. Racist imperialist. :)
Presumably woke students have already pulled down his statue.....if he has one. ::)
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https://youtu.be/vyMQXuM9AEY (https://youtu.be/vyMQXuM9AEY)
Yep.....yet another racist. ::)
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Oh yes, Russia Today news channel. They haven't got an axe to grind, have they? ;D
Has anyone seen the chaos at Kabul airport on BBC news site? Absolute mayhem. This could turn into another humanitarian crisis, if it hasn't already
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Mmm is there such a thing as a racist person of colour I wonder🤐
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Kipling wrote specifically about the second Afghan war. Roll to your rifle and Kim show that 140 years of 'progress' have changed nothing.
Or Harold Macmillan in 1963 - The first rule of politics should be to never invade Afghanistan.
You can't mention Kipling in 2021. Racist imperialist. :)
He was certainly an unashamed imperialist. And that shows in his stories of what Britain did in Afghanistan in the 1820s, and then the 1870s, and again after WW1. What we've been doing recently is exactly the same, for many of the same reasons. And what Russia did before us.
An important part of these actions is the ignominious public withdrawal after achieving nothing of value.
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An important part of these actions is the ignominious public withdrawal after achieving nothing of value.
I couldn’t agree more with that, far better to help our own and let them be,..it’s no good for them or us.
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I know being a military pilot, it goes with the territory, but the crew of that C17 had a pretty shitty day. And you certainly wouldn't want to be one of the civilian crews stuck there :-\
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Kipling wrote specifically about the second Afghan war. Roll to your rifle and Kim show that 140 years of 'progress' have changed nothing.
Or Harold Macmillan in 1963 - The first rule of politics should be to never invade Afghanistan.
You can't mention Kipling in 2021. Racist imperialist. :)
He was certainly an unashamed imperialist. And that shows in his stories of what Britain did in Afghanistan in the 1820s, and then the 1870s, and again after WW1. What we've been doing recently is exactly the same, for many of the same reasons. And what Russia did before us.
An important part of these actions is the ignominious public withdrawal after achieving nothing of value.
He was a man of his times. But he paid a heavy price for supporting WW1 and persuading the British army to allow his son John, with defective eye sight, to join up after using his high level connections. John was killed in 1915 at the Battle of Looe, something he never got over.
So I am sure if he had been around now, and had lost his son in Afghanistan he would be one of the first saying "what a bloody waste and a disgrace for Britain! :'( :'(
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It's been reported that Ashraf Ghani the now former Afghan President took stacks of cash when he legged it yesterday. ::)
So much in fact that it wouldn't all fit in the helicopter and he left $5 million in cash in bags on the tarmac at the airport. :o
Someone must have got lucky! :)
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ousted-afghan-president-fled-country-cars-helicopter-full-cash
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None of the indigenous people are prepared to fight they are all running away, I noticed all the people hanging on that military plane were men, why are they not with their wives kids and parents they are predominantly young men of fighting age getting the hell out of Dodge. Bidens 🤡 address on tv should be very interesting…..
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None of the indigenous people are prepared to fight they are all running away, I noticed all the people hanging on that military plane were men, why are they not with their wives kids and parents they are predominantly young men of fighting age getting the hell out of Dodge. Bidens 🤡 address on tv should be very interesting…..
I doubt it. Unless he resigns ::)
It will be all about his lovely weekend at Camp David.
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Only finishing what Trump started and, by all accounts, a move popular with the majority of the American electorate. Until they had to face the reality of what it actually means, of course.
That's my last, not getting into a playground discussion about 'Sippy cup'
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Meanwhile Dominic Raab was away on a foreign holiday. ;D ;D Spain before it is declared a red country ;D ;D
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As an aside. The Taliban are allowed a Twitter account but the Democratically elected President of the U.S. had his closed down.
Its a funny old world. ::)
Sleepy Joe,s crystal ball went a bit foggy last month. ::)
https://order-order.com/2021/08/16/bidens-tragically-optimistic-afghanistan-press-briefing-shows-lack-of-intelligence/
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As an aside. The Taliban are allowed a Twitter account but the Democratically elected President of the U.S. had his closed down.
Its a funny old world. ::)
Sleepy Joe,s crystal ball went a bit foggy last month. ::)
https://order-order.com/2021/08/16/bidens-tragically-optimistic-afghanistan-press-briefing-shows-lack-of-intelligence/
You mean his intelligence services?
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And as for him being a one term president, will he actually live that long? ;D
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None of the indigenous people are prepared to fight they are all running away, I noticed all the people hanging on that military plane were men, why are they not with their wives kids and parents they are predominantly young men of fighting age getting the hell out of Dodge. Bidens 🤡 address on tv should be very interesting…..
That could be due to them knowing the Taliban are taking men and boys out of their homes and accusing them of working for the police, or the other “enemy” organisations, and shooting them.
The women are in a terrible situation, but they are not in fear of their lives as the males are.
It does have to be said though that is the difference with our British population on this island and those who can ‘easily’ run to adjacent lands. As with any threat to this island most of us would be prepared to fight to the death to keep our freedoms, which was the case in WW2. But those of Afghanistan must be so disillusioned and lacking all hope that they just want to escape rather than face an ugly, dirty guy, with a dishevelled beard and a very big gun! Poor sods !! :'( :'(
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The one and only way to ensure, to a degree, that countries behave themselves after you've invaded them is to stay forever. That's called occupation.
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The one and only way to ensure, to a degree, that countries behave themselves after you've invaded them is to stay forever. That's called occupation.
To my knowledge in history that has never happened. The invader always has to leave after a few years or 350 years :D ;)
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To say that the women are not in fear for their lives is somewhat misinformed.
Unless you consider having zero life* better than death :-X
* the constant threat of rape, physical and psychological abuse and effectively becoming disposable property. Basically losing everything that western women take for granted.
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To say that the women are not in fear for their lives is somewhat misinformed.
Unless you consider having zero life better than death :-X
Typically you have not read what I actually said ::) ::)
I said :
“The women are in a terrible situation, but they are not in fear of their lives as the males are.”
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Here we go ;D
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And daily rapes as went on last time
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To say that the women are not in fear for their lives is somewhat misinformed.
Unless you consider having zero life better than death :-X
Typically you have not read what I actually said ::) ::)
I said :
“The women are in a terrible situation, but they are not in fear of their lives as the males are.”
It was a quick post that I have elaborated on.
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It is terrible for men women and children of any age but they must learn to fight for themselves in my opinion of course. I really am very sad for them all but……..
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And daily rapes as went on last time
Yes, and no more school, no more western style clothes, and they must remain subservient to men.
But the men have far more to fear in terms of dying at the hands of the Taliban, with even boys involved. Just like the Nazi SS squads did.
The women’s lives will certainly be no picnic, which is disgusting, but they will in the main survive from instant death. Before men on here start on about the Taliban cruelty to women, just think about the women of this country who risk constant sexual harassment, physical violence, rape and, all too often, death at the hands of a man >:(
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It is terrible for men women and children of any age but they must learn to fight for themselves in my opinion of course. I really am very sad for them all but……..
I don't know if it makes me a bad person, but I've had 60 odd years of people killing, raping and generally hating each other. I'm kind of immune to it.
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It is terrible for men women and children of any age but they must learn to fight for themselves in my opinion of course. I really am very sad for them all but……..
I don't know if it makes me a bad person, but I've had 60 odd years of people killing, raping and generally hating each other. I'm kind of immune to it.
Yep, and it has been going on since man started to walk the earth. One day all of us will learn that a peaceful life is what we all want, but that is probably hundreds of years away. The grave yards of the World will continue to be filled at a rapid rate :P ::) :P
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It is terrible for men women and children of any age but they must learn to fight for themselves in my opinion of course. I really am very sad for them all but……..
I don't know if it makes me a bad person, but I've had 60 odd years of people killing, raping and generally hating each other. I'm kind of immune to it.
Yep, and it has been going on since man started to walk the earth. One day all of us will learn that a peaceful life is what we all want, but that is probably hundreds of years away. The grave yards of the World will continue to be filled at a rapid rate :P ::) :P
Life? I pressed the 'Unsubscribe' button a while back. :)
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You’re not bad Stemo you’re a realist what you say is true. I’m not sure whether I would rather be a man or women there right now. It’s just as bad for both.
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What he is saying now is mostly right although I don’t think he’s fit for president…. They will not fight for themselves.
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What he is saying now is mostly right although I don’t think he’s fit for president…. They will not fight for themselves.
The American people are given a very poor choice at presidential elections. Most of the options over the last 20 years have been unfit to be president. Can't see that changing any time soon.
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You’re not bad Stemo you’re a realist what you say is true. I’m not sure whether I would rather be a man or women there right now. It’s just as bad for both.
But you're not there, you're in that little paradise that's stuck on to the west side of England ;
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It is terrible for men women and children of any age but they must learn to fight for themselves in my opinion of course. I really am very sad for them all but……..
I don't know if it makes me a bad person, but I've had 60 odd years of people killing, raping and generally hating each other. I'm kind of immune to it.
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Same here Steve, I've done my bit to try and make the world a better place & safer for those in fear of their lives, now I couldn't give two hoots I've got a reasonable life & a great family and I am determined to enjoy it.
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You’re not bad Stemo you’re a realist what you say is true. I’m not sure whether I would rather be a man or women there right now. It’s just as bad for both.
But you're not there, you're in that little paradise that's stuck on to the west side of England ;
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That’s correct so are you, I didn’t choose where I was born and… somebody very close to me has done their part there too representing you and me. Rangie I have the same view as you.. right or wrong.
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It is terrible for men women and children of any age but they must learn to fight for themselves in my opinion of course. I really am very sad for them all but……..
I don't know if it makes me a bad person, but I've had 60 odd years of people killing, raping and generally hating each other. I'm kind of immune to it.
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Same here Steve, I've done my bit to try and make the world a better place & safer for those in fear of their lives, now I couldn't give two hoots I've got a reasonable life & a great family and I am determined to enjoy it.
Yes, Mick, but we all know you're a bad person. ;D
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It is terrible for men women and children of any age but they must learn to fight for themselves in my opinion of course. I really am very sad for them all but……..
I don't know if it makes me a bad person, but I've had 60 odd years of people killing, raping and generally hating each other. I'm kind of immune to it.
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Same here Steve, I've done my bit to try and make the world a better place & safer for those in fear of their lives, now I couldn't give two hoots I've got a reasonable life & a great family and I am determined to enjoy it.
Yes, Mick, but we all know you're a bad person. ;D
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It takes one to know one 😂
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And another to know two :y
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You’re not bad Stemo you’re a realist what you say is true. I’m not sure whether I would rather be a man or women there right now. It’s just as bad for both.
But you're not there, you're in that little paradise that's stuck on to the west side of England ;
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That’s correct so are you, I didn’t choose where I was born and… somebody very close to me has done their part there too representing you and me. Rangie I have the same view as you.. right or wrong.
Yes, Rae, and I refuse to spend whatever life I have left worrying about global warming, racism, sexism or any other ism. Or Afghanistan.
In the sixties it was ban the bomb, Cuban missile crisis, then Greenham Common, etc. People laid down in the middle of the road and camped out in the rain and stuff. What difference did any of it make? None whatsoever, just as it won't today.
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100 % mate 👍👍
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100 % mate 👍👍
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None of the indigenous people are prepared to fight they are all running away, I noticed all the people hanging on that military plane were men, why are they not with their wives kids and parents they are predominantly young men of fighting age getting the hell out of Dodge. Bidens 🤡 address on tv should be very interesting…..
Or they could be the ones who have nothing to keep them there.
The honest address is quick, simple and undoubtedly divisive:
We oppsed up by invading Afghanistan twenty years ago. Being there has oppsed the country even more than it already was. We can't 'win', whatever definition you use. It's been oppsing expensive, for no worthwhile gain. It will always be oppsing expensive, for no worthwhile gain. It's not as oppsing expensive to withdraw, just like every other invasion of this hellhole for the last 200 years, so that's what we're doing.
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None of the indigenous people are prepared to fight they are all running away, I noticed all the people hanging on that military plane were men, why are they not with their wives kids and parents they are predominantly young men of fighting age getting the hell out of Dodge. Bidens 🤡 address on tv should be very interesting…..
Or they could be the ones who have nothing to keep them there.
The honest address is quick, simple and undoubtedly divisive:
We oppsed up by invading Afghanistan twenty years ago. Being there has oppsed the country even more than it already was. We can't 'win', whatever definition you use. It's been oppsing expensive, for no worthwhile gain. It will always be oppsing expensive, for no worthwhile gain. It's not as oppsing expensive to withdraw, just like every other invasion of this hellhole for the last 200 years, so that's what we're doing.
That just about sums it up. But it won't stop the bleeding hearts and detractors of Biden protesting for the next few months. I hope this is the conflict that finally stops the west getting involved in places where it shouldn't. Not on moral grounds, but because it inevitably makes things worse.
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As Ian said then… once again.. What a waste🙁 and what suffering for Fk all.
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Apparently it is all Donald's doing (https://youtu.be/cedvgRAdF0w)
https://youtu.be/Uxg8BumlYpI
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Saw the poor sods falling off the Plane , not a well thought out escape plan :o
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Apparently it is all Donald's doing (https://youtu.be/cedvgRAdF0w)
https://youtu.be/Uxg8BumlYpI
Quote.....savages in sandals.
Doesn't sound very PC... ;D
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You’re not bad Stemo you’re a realist what you say is true. I’m not sure whether I would rather be a man or women there right now. It’s just as bad for both.
But you're not there, you're in that little paradise that's stuck on to the west side of England ;
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That’s correct so are you, I didn’t choose where I was born and… somebody very close to me has done their part there too representing you and me. Rangie I have the same view as you.. right or wrong.
Yes, Rae, and I refuse to spend whatever life I have left worrying about global warming, racism, sexism or any other ism. Or Afghanistan.
In the sixties it was ban the bomb, Cuban missile crisis, then Greenham Common, etc. People laid down in the middle of the road and camped out in the rain and stuff. What difference did any of it make? None whatsoever, just as it won't today.
Here you .... >:( That's my outlook in life now , get your own .
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You’re not bad Stemo you’re a realist what you say is true. I’m not sure whether I would rather be a man or women there right now. It’s just as bad for both.
But you're not there, you're in that little paradise that's stuck on to the west side of England ;
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That’s correct so are you, I didn’t choose where I was born and… somebody very close to me has done their part there too representing you and me. Rangie I have the same view as you.. right or wrong.
Yes, Rae, and I refuse to spend whatever life I have left worrying about global warming, racism, sexism or any other ism. Or Afghanistan.
In the sixties it was ban the bomb, Cuban missile crisis, then Greenham Common, etc. People laid down in the middle of the road and camped out in the rain and stuff. What difference did any of it make? None whatsoever, just as it won't today.
Here you .... >:( That's my outlook in life now , get your own .
So you keep saying, Don, but the emojis you keep using are telling me there's an angry man trying to get out ;D
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do those Apple tablets not have a scroll function so you can go to the bottom of an edit and use the quote function correctly :-\ :P ;D
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do those Apple tablets not have a scroll function so you can go to the bottom of an edit and use the quote function correctly :-\ :P ;D
Always start a sentence with a Capital letter. ;)
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do those Apple tablets not have a scroll function so you can go to the bottom of an edit and use the quote function correctly :-\ :P ;D
Always start a sentence with a Capital letter. ;)
Because?
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do those Apple tablets not have a scroll function so you can go to the bottom of an edit and use the quote function correctly :-\ :P ;D
Always start a sentence with a Capital letter. ;)
Sentence :o
Are the grammar police sending me to jail ? :D
I'm a builder ,not an English major ::)
My first language is mostly grunts and sucking air through my roll up ciggy or teeth ;D
I'vE learnT mE lesSon ,to use SHOUTY CAPitALS can me sentence be reviewed yoUr hoNouR ? :P
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do those Apple tablets not have a scroll function so you can go to the bottom of an edit and use the quote function correctly :-\ :P ;D
Listen carefully, young builder. If you quote a post where the previous poster has not posted below the [/quote] function, then your post will appear as if you have done the same. If you take a look at the post I quoted......... ::)
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do those Apple tablets not have a scroll function so you can go to the bottom of an edit and use the quote function correctly :-\ :P ;D
Always start a sentence with a Capital letter. ;)
Because?
....you're illiterate if you don't :)
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do those Apple tablets not have a scroll function so you can go to the bottom of an edit and use the quote function correctly :-\ :P ;D
Always start a sentence with a Capital letter. ;)
Sentence :o
Are the grammar police sending me to jail ? :D
I'm a builder ,not an English major ::)
My first language is mostly grunts and sucking air through my roll up ciggy or teeth ;D
I'vE learnT mE lesSon ,to use SHOUTY CAPitALS can me sentence be reviewed yoUr hoNouR ? :P
We have reviewed all of your sentences and found them to have been most inadequate. As a result we have no choice but to send you back to school. Indefinitely.
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Oh heck, that miserable git Don is back again ;D
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I'm off then , school in the morning ;D
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I'm off then , school in the morning ;D
Why is that comma abandoned in the middle of your sentence?
I'm not too bothered by poor spelling and some odd punctuation in forum posts, unless they make the text read like surrealist doggerel. Then I just move onto the next post.
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do those Apple tablets not have a scroll function so you can go to the bottom of an edit and use the quote function correctly :-\ :P ;D
Always start a sentence with a Capital letter. ;)
Sentence :o
Are the grammar police sending me to jail ? :D
I'm a builder ,not an English major ::)
My first language is mostly grunts and sucking air through my roll up ciggy or teeth ;D
I'vE learnT mE lesSon ,to use SHOUTY CAPitALS can me sentence be reviewed yoUr hoNouR ? :P
That really made me laugh Dave. When we had our roof completely replaced , the builders communicated using grunts and other strange noises. The most memorable being NNNRRRRRRG. A sound impossible to capture in letters alone. . We think it might have meant yes that is right or perhaps I will think about it.
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I hate spelling errors…..
You mix up two letters and your whole post is urined
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Just exactly how many "interpreters" did we use over there, 20k ?
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Just exactly how many "interpreters" did we use over there, 20k ?
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Have to say it, we should look after our own first, enough homeless here already, people reliant on food banks & war veterans on the streets. Schools & the NHS in shit order .
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Indeed, I refer you to post#73👍
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I know it's Fox News, but the interview about three minutes in should serve as a stark reminder of why those interpreters etc should be treated with caution.
We could be about to import tens of thousands of active terrorists...
https://youtu.be/PqzEhbAWCHM
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Our local news is saying that our councils are getting ready to welcome them , where the F*** are they going to put them all , take over more Hotels ?
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Perhaps they will kick our homeless out to put them in👀
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Mmm…. Barracks🤔
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Mmm…. Barracks🤔
Good enough for our squaddies, but not for asylum seekers or migrants etc. ::)
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Playing devils advocate here. Its all well and good saying leave them to it etc. etc. but looking at the big picture, China and Russia are going to use this situation to bring the region into their sphere of influence, get the rights to minerals mining etc. and the West will be weakened even further.
Its likely we will now face more terror attacks once they get themselves organised again.
This is a major humiliation for the West in General and the U.S. in particular.
If we had stayed we could have carried on supporting and training the Afghans with the small forces that we had there until recently.
There had been very little aggression towards the foreign forces recently, so there was no big risk.
The days of coffins coming through Wootton Bassett on a regular basis were long gone.
How long did the Brits and the U.S. keep a force in Germany after WW2 ?
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Playing devils advocate here. Its all well and good saying leave them to it etc. etc. but looking at the big picture, China and Russia are going to use this situation to bring the region into their sphere of influence, get the rights to minerals mining etc. and the West will be weakened even further.
Its likely we will now face more terror attacks once they get themselves organised again.
This is a major humiliation for the West in General and the U.S. in particular.
If we had stayed we could have carried on supporting and training the Afghans with the small forces that we had there until recently.
There had been very little aggression towards the foreign forces recently, so there was no big risk.
The days of coffins coming through Wootton Bassett on a regular basis were long gone.
How long did the Brits and the U.S. keep a force in Germany after WW2 ?
Bring the region into their sphere of influence Russia? You know that the Taliban are the Mujahideen, that the Americans aided(with money, equipment, training) against the Russians? The exact same people.
A major humiliation. Nothing new there, this our fourth go.
There was no big risk. Yeah, it only took them a day to frighten off the 'legitimate' government. A whole day. With no warning.
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Think you are right.
Trump and Biden were just looking at votes sadly. Lack of long term vision.
I wonder if the 20,000 Britain is promising to take is a figure tacitly agreed behind the scenes with Europe or pre empting the EU agreeing figures which then inevitably ( like is happening in Britain already) will be up for negotiation or outright rejection by Hungary etc. 400000 refugees divided by 20 countries equals 20k each. Quite a few years ago St Marks in Leicester took 10,000 Somalis.
As said, how many are fundamentalists.
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Playing devils advocate here. Its all well and good saying leave them to it etc. etc. but looking at the big picture, China and Russia are going to use this situation to bring the region into their sphere of influence, get the rights to minerals mining etc. and the West will be weakened even further.
Its likely we will now face more terror attacks once they get themselves organised again.
This is a major humiliation for the West in General and the U.S. in particular.
If we had stayed we could have carried on supporting and training the Afghans with the small forces that we had there until recently.
There had been very little aggression towards the foreign forces recently, so there was no big risk.
The days of coffins coming through Wootton Bassett on a regular basis were long gone.
How long did the Brits and the U.S. keep a force in Germany after WW2 ?
Bring the region into their sphere of influence Russia? You know that the Taliban are the Mujahideen, that the Americans aided(with money, equipment, training) against the Russians? The exact same people.[/highlight]
A major humiliation. Nothing new there, this our fourth go.
There was no big risk. Yeah, it only took them a day to frighten off the 'legitimate' government. A whole day. With no warning.
This matters not. Your sworn enemy one day can be your most valuable ally the next, if it suits your / their agenda.
The reason it took them a day to frighten off the Govt. was because the Govt. had been abandoned by its allies so they took advantage quickly.
Apparently many of the soldiers ,Policemen , civil servants etc. werent paid their wages on a regular basis, as their bosses pocketed the money when they felt like it.
The money was supplied by the Yanks, UK and others, but no-one bothered to keep a close eye on the money in one of the most corrupt countries anywhere.
Therefore, those who relied on the money from foreign Govts. simply gave up taking any risk and walked out of their jobs, when the chances of being paid went from being unpredictable to highly unlikely.
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The Taliban, for their faults are well funded. They pay consistently, and pay more, so the fact that it has basically taken a month to obtain control over the whole country doesn't take a genius to work out...
The American trained and equipped Afghan Army was probably waiting for the Taliban to turn up just so that they could get paid. And if that wasn't incentive enough, going along with the Taliban is alot easier than trying to go against them.
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Not a new tactic either. The mafia used it, South American drug trade and here in Spain use it now.
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Nicked from Twitter....
All those long dead Americans who voted for Joe Biden by post must be turning in their graves! ;D
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So now two bomb attacks, 60 approx dead, including 10 US soldiers, (stop press - 12 now!!) with another civilians 130 injured. :'( :'( :'(
What will Biden and the West do now? Nothing? ::) ::) ::)
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………..now 12 plus US soldiers killed, and 140 civilians injured :'( :'(
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So now two bomb attacks, 60 approx dead, including 10 US soldiers, (stop press - 12 now!!) with another civilians 130 injured. :'( :'( :'(
What will Biden and the West do now? Nothing? ::) ::) ::)
What were we doing anyway? It was always going to end like this, all it took was someone with enough sense to start the process.
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So now two bomb attacks, 60 approx dead, including 10 US soldiers, (stop press - 12 now!!) with another civilians 130 injured. :'( :'( :'(
What will Biden and the West do now? Nothing? ::) ::) ::)
What were we doing anyway? It was always going to end like this, all it took was someone with enough sense to start the process.
Shame Sippy Cup didn't follow the planned process that had already been laid out and started then...
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So now two bomb attacks, 60 approx dead, including 10 US soldiers, (stop press - 12 now!!) with another civilians 130 injured. :'( :'( :'(
What will Biden and the West do now? Nothing? ::) ::) ::)
What were we doing anyway? It was always going to end like this, all it took was someone with enough sense to start the process.
Shame Sippy Cup didn't follow the planned process that had already been laid out and started then...
The only difference is that it would take longer. With all the extra shit that would bring
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No way of knowing, but long term, this will be messier.
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They are still in South Korea after 70 years. Stayed in Germany decades after WW2 to keep an eye on them.
Why not have a presence in Afghanistan to support, train and provide air cover if needed for the local forces, until such time as the Taliban were completely dissolved, and wouldnt provide cover to Islamist terror or flood the western world with cheap Heroin ?
He thought it would be a surefire vote winner in the mid terms, but the utterly cack handed way it has been handled meant it has blown up in his face, and unfortunately literally blown up in the faces of a lot of people, including his own soldiers.
The worst excuse for a POTUS I have ever seen, and thats saying something.
And apparently the world thought Trump was a liability !
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^^^ this^^^^. Of course it was always going to go this way if you pull out without a decent plan.
I hope that bloke goes one way or the other very soon before something really bad happens he is certainly not fit to be there, he can’t find the hole in his arse with both hands.
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If Trumpy had presided over this sort of shitshow, the social media sites would have looked very different over the last couple of weeks. ::)
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If Trumpy had presided over this sort of shitshow, the social media sites would have looked very different over the last couple of weeks. ::)
Yeah, he would have been strong and tough and decisive and making America great again by showing the ragheads who is boss and we love him so much :-* :-*
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If Trumpy had presided over this sort of shitshow, the social media sites would have looked very different over the last couple of weeks. ::)
But he didn't, because the American people showed him the door ;D
I watched Biden's press conference last night and wondered how many of the words he used Donald would have understood ::)
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So now two bomb attacks, 60 approx dead, including 10 US soldiers, (stop press - 12 now!!) with another civilians 130 injured. :'( :'( :'(
What will Biden and the West do now? Nothing? ::) ::) ::)
What were we doing anyway? It was always going to end like this, all it took was someone with enough sense to start the process.
Rory Stewart said something similar in his documentary about Afghanistan. It was never going to end well.
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He is indeed a more eloquent, articulate, class of bullshiiter altogether than the Donald. :y
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If Trumpy had presided over this sort of shitshow, the social media sites would have looked very different over the last couple of weeks. ::)
But he didn't, because the American people showed him the door ;D
I watched Biden's press conference last night and wondered how many of the words he used he actually meant ::)
Ftfy
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His stomach churning fake sincerity reminded me of Blair.
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So now two bomb attacks, 60 approx dead, including 10 US soldiers, (stop press - 12 now!!) with another civilians 130 injured. :'( :'( :'(
What will Biden and the West do now? Nothing? ::) ::) ::)
What were we doing anyway? It was always going to end like this, all it took was someone with enough sense to start the process.
This is where your logic fails.
Biden is a senile old man unable to tie his own laces. He needs to be replaced......but by whom? :-X :-X :-X
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So now two bomb attacks, 60 approx dead, including 10 US soldiers, (stop press - 12 now!!) with another civilians 130 injured. :'( :'( :'(
What will Biden and the West do now? Nothing? ::) ::) ::)
What were we doing anyway? It was always going to end like this, all it took was someone with enough sense to start the process.
This is where your logic fails.
Biden is a senile old man unable to tie his own laces. He needs to be replaced......but by whom? :-X :-X :-X
The line of succession starts like this..... Kamala Harris. Nancy Pelosi..... ::)
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There's talk of impeaching the pair of the breakless idiots.
In the short term, it would be the The Giggling Eejit, but she wouldn't last too long either. Although if Sippy Cup and Pelosi both had unfortunately fatal accidents discussing ice cream, that might focus her attention somewhat...
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So now two bomb attacks, 60 approx dead, including 10 US soldiers, (stop press - 12 now!!) with another civilians 130 injured. :'( :'( :'(
What will Biden and the West do now? Nothing? ::) ::) ::)
What were we doing anyway? It was always going to end like this, all it took was someone with enough sense to start the process.
This is where your logic fails.
Biden is a senile old man unable to tie his own laces. He needs to be replaced......but by whom? :-X :-X :-X
The line of succession starts like this..... Kamala Harris. Nancy Pelosi..... ::)
Do you have a length of stout rope with a noose I could borrow...... ;D ;D ;D
The cadaverous Nancy Pelosi.....no thanks. ::)
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If Trumpy had presided over this sort of shitshow, the social media sites would have looked very different over the last couple of weeks. ::)
But he didn't, because the American people showed him the door ;D
I watched Biden's press conference last night and wondered how many of the words he used Donald would have understood ::)
Ha ha, are you assuming that Sleepy Joe understood what he was reading out from the teleprompter? Or even what he was doing there? ;D
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If Trumpy had presided over this sort of shitshow, the social media sites would have looked very different over the last couple of weeks. ::)
Yeah, he would have been strong and tough and decisive and making America great again by showing the ragheads who is boss and we love him so much :-* :-*
I wasn't suggesting that Trumpy would have done a better job than Biden. ::)
Just that if this outcome had happened under Trump, the haters and keyboard warriors would have out in force with their hysterical outrage. They are all rather silent about Biden though. :-X :P
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If Trumpy had presided over this sort of shitshow, the social media sites would have looked very different over the last couple of weeks. ::)
Yeah, he would have been strong and tough and decisive and making America great again by showing the ragheads who is boss and we love him so much :-* :-*
I wasn't suggesting that Trumpy would have done a better job than Biden. ::)
Just that if this outcome had happened under Trump, the haters and keyboard warriors would have out in force with their hysterical outrage. They are all rather silent about Biden though. :-X :P
The majority of the American press is extremely democrat friendly, and are willing to look the other way.
Coiffured effeminate Don Lemon from CNN being a prime example.
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At least Donald had a plan... Even I know you can't suddenly pull out without so much as a comforting hug afterwards... ::)
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Wasn't Donald's plan to get the hell out even earlier? :-\
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Wasn't Donald's plan to get the hell out even earlier? :-\
Yes, but not over night. Without telling anyone. Having just abandoned the nearest military base/airfield.
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Wasn't Donald's plan to get the hell out even earlier? :-\
Yes, but not over night. Without telling anyone. Having just abandoned the nearest military base/airfield.
Incomprehensible... :-X ::)
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At least Donald had a plan... Even I know you can't suddenly pull out without so much as a comforting hug afterwards... ::)
Donald said he had a plan. But he said a lot of things, usually u turning 30 seconds later.
Fat bastard 😂
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Wasn't Donald's plan to get the hell out even earlier? :-\
Yes, but not over night. Without telling anyone. Having just abandoned the nearest military base/airfield.
Incomprehensible... :-X ::)
Bet you Donald won't use that word, it's more than five letters ;D
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Meanwhile, further proof that the world has gone mad.
Michel Barnier has announced he will stand for election as President of France, on a Eurosceptic, anti immigration platform ! :o ;D
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Nsane is only five letters :D
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Meanwhile, further proof that the world has gone mad.
Michel Barnier has announced he will stand for election as President of France, on a Eurosceptic, anti immigration platform ! :o ;D
This is good, surely? He's got no chance of being elected and it will prove to everyone just what a self serving arsehole (aka politician) he is.
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Apparently most of the French electorate didn't even know he was French ;D
So he's as good a chance as anyone else ::)
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Apparently most of the French electorate didn't even know he was French ;D
So he's as good a chance as anyone else ::)
You'd think that with all that arrogance, he couldn't be any other nationality. :-X
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Apparently most of the French electorate didn't even know he was French ;D
So he's as good a chance as anyone else ::)
You'd think that with all that arrogance, he couldn't be any other nationality. :-X
On est ça ;D
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Il y'a ça ::)
And to think I did A Level French :-[
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Apparently most of the French electorate didn't even know he was French ;D
So he's as good a chance as anyone else ::)
You'd think that with all that arrogance, he couldn't be any other nationality. :-X
I suppose on the days when he tries to show a little humility he could be mistaken for a German. ;D
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Apparently most of the French electorate didn't even know he was French ;D
So he's as good a chance as anyone else ::)
You'd think that with all that arrogance, he couldn't be any other nationality. :-X
I suppose on the days when he tries to show a little humility he could be mistaken for a German. ;D
He's tried to show humility? :o ;D
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Apparently most of the French electorate didn't even know he was French ;D
So he's as good a chance as anyone else ::)
You'd think that with all that arrogance, he couldn't be any other nationality. :-X
I suppose on the days when he tries to show a little humility he could be mistaken for a German. ;D
He's tried to show humility? :o ;D
Only ironically ;D
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https://youtu.be/zEplwFWDb_Y
https://youtu.be/sejw6iY5SQI :'(
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Meanwhile, further proof that the world has gone mad.
Michel Barnier has announced he will stand for election as President of France, on a Eurosceptic, anti immigration platform ! :o ;D
;D ;D ;D
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(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZnqjTMy/taliban-sperm.jpg)
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Harsh but fair... (https://youtu.be/GUNQwyGmrcY) :-X
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:o How did we get from getting out a few " interpreters " to half of the frigging population, and who are all these "British Citizens " trapped there ? >:(
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I saw an article in the Liverpool Echo say a fella from the city was trapped there. Scrolled down and there was Scouse...........in his turban with a cracking sun tan ;D
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I saw an article in the Liverpool Echo say a fella from the city was trapped there. Scrolled down and there was Scouse...........in his turban with a cracking sun tan ;D
if I was trapped there :o , I'd want to blend in with the locals too ,and avoid saying "EH ! EH ! ,calm down, calm down "
fortunately my "English" is so bad ,the Taliban would never believe I was from England ;D
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I saw an article in the Liverpool Echo say a fella from the city was trapped there. Scrolled down and there was Scouse...........in his turban with a cracking sun tan ;D
Was the turban hiding his scouse perm? ???
I'd imagine that the Taliban would disapprove of scouse perms? Western decadence and all that. ::) ;D
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I saw an article in the Liverpool Echo say a fella from the city was trapped there. Scrolled down and there was Scouse...........in his turban with a cracking sun tan ;D
Was the turban hiding his scouse perm? ???
I'd imagine that the Taliban would disapprove of scouse perms? Western decadence and all that. ::) ;D
Scouse perm. Is that some sort of bet? :-\
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I saw an article in the Liverpool Echo say a fella from the city was trapped there. Scrolled down and there was Scouse...........in his turban with a cracking sun tan ;D
Was the turban hiding his scouse perm? ???
I'd imagine that the Taliban would disapprove of scouse perms? Western decadence and all that. ::) ;D
Scouse perm. Is that some sort of bet? :-\
Looks quite decadent to me! ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/T2n7NJPJ/scousers.jpg)
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I saw an article in the Liverpool Echo say a fella from the city was trapped there. Scrolled down and there was Scouse...........in his turban with a cracking sun tan ;D
if I was trapped there :o , I'd want to blend in with the locals too ,and avoid saying "EH ! EH ! ,calm down, calm down "
fortunately my "English" is so bad ,the Taliban would never believe I was from England ;D
Ha ha😂. I’d be ok they wouldn’t know what the fk I’m saying anyway🤣
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And….. these days I don’t know myself🤭
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I saw an article in the Liverpool Echo say a fella from the city was trapped there. Scrolled down and there was Scouse...........in his turban with a cracking sun tan ;D
Was the turban hiding his scouse perm? ???
I'd imagine that the Taliban would disapprove of scouse perms? Western decadence and all that. ::) ;D
Scouse perm. Is that some sort of bet? :-\
Looks quite decadent to me! ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/T2n7NJPJ/scousers.jpg)
One of those three died......of old age ;D
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Yep living too long will always kill you. It’s dangerous💀
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Yep living too long will always kill you. It’s dangerous💀
Some stereotypes live forever.
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Duo’s too👍😂
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Some things never get old (https://youtu.be/Lh0otJGjTuo)
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Wow he’s better than the ‘real’ 👀 one